Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

[Jared032]

Oh really..But at the time that i discover and posted him for the first time in Interbasket Sean Anthony was already playing small forward in Canada College ball..its his natural position.

anthony used to play the PF position for Powerade Tigers and aside from that, he doesn't have legit HANDLES and his form was ugly back then.

 

[FilipinoDad2]

Baculi out, Ramos in.

 

[Cryotek2]

It seems PBB is in dire need of salvaging their All-Filipino conference, so far they're on 8th place tied with Barako Bull!

 

[Big Ticket2]

Roster changes:

Air21 - andaya in, escobal out
Petron - ildefonso in, sison out

 

[Relentless2]

Menor: Came out of college too early.
Aljamal: Too short and weak at the 4 (position he played in college) and too slow at the 3.
Hermida: Didn't really get the chance. He's steady at the D-League now.
Escobal: Too slow at the 1, and too short at the 2.
Gamalinda: Decent role player. He's average on defense and hits a 3 or 2 every now and then.

...."Red Lions Syndrome". It's just a matter of players having the tools to excel in college, but not having the tools to succeed at the next level.....

So yeah, Marcelo may end up in this list.....because there's a "Red Lions Syndrome"....

(You can also add Norman Gonzales and Ricky Calimag to the list)

Doesn't this sound like Duke University in the United States NCAA? Top-of-the-line college program and system. But when their players turn pro, very few become superstars or all-stars. Once in a while, there would be someone who breaks the mold. But it becomes more of an exception to the rule.

I think the last San Beda college alumni who was a star in the NCAA who also became successful in the PBA was Boybits Victoria who won "Rookie of the Year" and was named to the Mythical Team a few times.

For Gamalinda, he at least plays a significant role off the bench for a championship-caliber team.

 

[Relentless2]

now why would petron trade for ANOTHER WING?? lutz, lassiter, yeo, duncil, mallari and now david? that's half the team being composed of 2-3 wingers....

If Petron really wants to get Gary David, they have to trade Yeo, Lutz (OR Lassiter, they can only keep one of the 2) and Miranda (IF they want to develop Mallari as their 2nd point guard OR trade Mallari if they plan to play him at 2 or 3.) Duncil can be kept because he is being developed as their defensive stopper versus hig scoring 2's and 3's.

 

[FilipinoDad2]

(You can also add Norman Gonzales and Ricky Calimag to the list)

Doesn't this sound like Duke University in the United States NCAA? Top-of-the-line college program and system. But when their players turn pro, very few become superstars or all-stars. Once in a while, there would be someone who breaks the mold. But it becomes more of an exception to the rule.

I think the last San Beda college alumni who was a star in the NCAA who also became successful in the PBA was Boybits Victoria who won "Rookie of the Year" and was named to the Mythical Team a few times.

For Gamalinda, he at least plays a significant role off the bench for a championship-caliber team.

Both Norman and Calimag enjoyed long PBA careers, at least longer than their more sikat compatriots. Yup, sounds like Duke. I think it speaks a lot of good things about the SBC program in such a way that they were able to hide these players weaknesses and help them become effective in the collegiate level.

Although, our HS program is successful when it comes to success at the PBA level. We have Casio and Tenorio to name a few.

Hopefully, SBC will be able to break the "streak" with the entry of Jake and Gabo. Jake may become a solid enforcer, while Gabo has the tools to become a superstar.

I think we're becoming off-topic now, so this is my last post about this. But I appreciate the exchange, my man.

 

[reamily2]

In all San Beda products, still Ogie Menor has the best tools to have an impact in the pba(if he can learn to straighten things up). Jake Pascual an 8-10th guy of a mid/lower team(Reynel Hugnatan path is far fetched but Norman Gonzales path with post moves is attainable)..Gabo Lanete has what it takes to be a starter/key guy in any pba team because of his shooting and potential ability to play the 1 position (less than prolific renren ritualo early in his career but more all around(because he is slightly bigger) is attainable.. Jeff Chan, Lordy path is also attainable if he really works hard and being that perfect team but the catch is he is smaller than the two but maybe the ability to paly the point might be his catch)

 

[Silent Killer2]

A mallari to barako bull? For anthony and the injured prone and aging danny seigle

 

[reamily2]

A mallari to barako bull? For anthony and the injured prone and aging danny seigle

great trade for both teams if true.. Danny will give wisdom and authoriy in petron locker room..
Barako is strong team but they forgot to have the scorer for them is like having a bool without his horns

 

[killmebusy2]

If Petron really wants to get Gary David, they have to trade Yeo, Lutz (OR Lassiter, they can only keep one of the 2) and Miranda (IF they want to develop Mallari as their 2nd point guard OR trade Mallari if they plan to play him at 2 or 3.) Duncil can be kept because he is being developed as their defensive stopper versus hig scoring 2's and 3's.

true, teams should take note of how jireh ibanes got very patiently developed in ROS...and it looks like duncil is heading the same path. if this development of his continues he can be mentioned in the same breath as lock down defenders ibanes, tubid and reyes. such a valuable asset if you ask me coz not only can those guys stop the best wingers of the opposing team, they can also contribute on the offensive end. i actually think miranda is a much better fit for petron than cabagnot coz he is a much better defender and he distributes the ball more. they don't need to trade acab though, olsen can just opt to give more minutes to denok. the first 5 should look like miranda, duncil, lutz, arwind, jwash...with lassiter, yeo, cabagnot, faundo and ildefonso coming off the bench.

 

[yeeitsearl2]

‘Manong Brigade’ members laud former coach Baculi for reinvigorated careers
Rey Joble, InterAKTV · Wednesday, November 14, 2012 · 3:33 pm

AKTV/Paolo Papa

Petron Blaze center Dorian Pena was one among several veteran players who were given new leases on life while playing for Junel Baculi and the famed “Manong Brigade” with the Barako Bull Energy.

Pena still has a lot of admiration for the coach, and it came as a shock to him when he learned Baculi was no longer in charge of Pena’s former team.

“He’s no longer coaching the team? Wow,” was Pena’s first reaction when called by InterAKTV.

“It was a pleasure playing for Baculi last season. For me, he’s one of the finest coaches in the PBA and I think if you give him talented players on the team, he can win championships. This guy knows how to coach,” added Pena, who returned to the Petron Blaze Boosters this season.

“I would rank him high among the coaches whom I’ve played for.”

Two other members of the “Manong Brigade” who helped Barako Bull to a near finals stint last season also had good words to say about Baculi.

Danny Seigle, who was traded to the Air 21 Express in a deal that involved the top three picks of the rookie draft two seasons ago – Noy Baclao, Rabeh Al-Hussaini and Rey Guevarra – before the franchise was renamed Barako Bull, has plenty of respect for the coaching ability of Baculi.

“He demands respect from you,” Seigle said in a telephone interview. “He allows you to speak your mind. One good thing about coach Baculi is whatever happens inside the court, stays on the court. He will not take it personal against you so you don’t have to worry about the next game or next practice because you know it’s just business and nothing personal.”

For Seigle, playing for Baculi was like “rediscovering your old self.”

“He gives you freedom and he lets you to play your game,” said Seigle. “One good thing about having veteran players is that you know you’re going to make good decisions on the court. Yes, we overachieved quite a bit under coach Baculi and that’s because there were a lot of veterans. He was able to utilize us. As veterans, chemistry wasn’t that difficult to be established.”

Ronald Tubid, who was overshadowed playing for a star-studded Barangay Ginebra squad before moving to Barako Bull, was able to get his second wind under Baculi as well.

“Utang ko sa kanya yung pagbabalik ng kumpiyansa ko,” Tubid said. “He told me na dahil wala na si (Willie) Miller, isa na ako sa magiging go-to-guy ng team, kaya sinuklian ko naman. I would rank him as one of the best coaches I ever had.”

Tubid shared how Baculi’s personality differs from the one basketball fans don’t see outside the court.

“Mabait si coach Junel, sa totoo lang,” said Tubid. “Yung nakikita ng fans inside the court, kabaligtaran sa totoong buhay. Minsan nga yung pagiging mabait niya inaabuso na ng ibang players.”

But Tubid will not be surprised if he sees Baculi handling a new team someday.

“Maliit lang ang mundo ng basketball at dahil magaling naman si coach Junel, hindi malayong maging coach siya ulit sa PBA. Hindi natin alam, baka magsama kami sa ibang pagkakataon,” he

 

[reamily2]

true, teams should take note of how jireh ibanes got very patiently developed in ROS...and it looks like duncil is heading the same path. if this development of his continues he can be mentioned in the same breath as lock down defenders ibanes, tubid and reyes. such a valuable asset if you ask me coz not only can those guys stop the best wingers of the opposing team, they can also contribute on the offensive end. i actually think miranda is a much better fit for petron than cabagnot coz he is a much better defender and he distributes the ball more. they don't need to trade acab though, olsen can just opt to give more minutes to denok. the first 5 should look like miranda, duncil, lutz, arwind, jwash...with lassiter, yeo, cabagnot, faundo and ildefonso coming off the bench.

Its not that ROS tried to develop Jireh. It is just that Jireh all thru this years learned to worked hard and earn his spot on the team thru all the seasons..who would have thought that he will be varsity player from an intramural player.. who would have thought he would be a role player in the pbl .. who would have thought that he would have a career in pba which his famous UP teammates Mike Bravo, Toti Almeda, Gino Ferrer and Nestor David(the so called Rado Boys hehe with (Jayr Reyes)) Cannot..

 

[Jared032]

Its not that ROS tried to develop Jireh. It is just that Jireh all thru this years learned to worked hard and earn his spot on the team thru all the seasons..who would have thought that he will be varsity player from an intramural player.. who would have thought he would be a role player in the pbl .. who would have thought that he would have a career in pba which his famous UP teammates Mike Bravo, Toti Almeda, Gino Ferrer and Nestor David(the so called Rado Boys hehe with (Jayr Reyes)) Cannot..

Jireh knew his role from the very beginning and that separates him from others.

 

[durden_tyler2]

]Its not that ROS tried to develop Jireh.[/B] It is just that Jireh all thru this years learned to worked hard and earn his spot on the team thru all the seasons..who would have thought that he will be varsity player from an intramural player.. who would have thought he would be a role player in the pbl .. who would have thought that he would have a career in pba which his famous UP teammates Mike Bravo, Toti Almeda, Gino Ferrer and Nestor David(the so called Rado Boys hehe with (Jayr Reyes)) Cannot..

Wrong. Guiao developed and TRUSTED Jireh. If he was playing for a different coach/franchise he'd just be among the many forgotten serviceable 2-way players in the league.

 

[reamily2]

Wrong. Guiao developed and TRUSTED Jireh. If he was playing for a different coach/franchise he'd just be among the many forgotten serviceable 2-way players in the league.

valid point but if ROS did not trust him he would not be in ROS/ or in the PBA when Guiao came to ROS..

 

[durden_tyler2]

valid point but if ROS did not trust him he would not be in ROS/ or in the PBA when Guiao came to ROS..

True. But we can safely assume that if Guiao wasn't his coach he'd have difficulty in finding a niche (a defensive stopper + serviceable offensive player) in the league. He's like a Mike Mustre or Art de la Cruz for me-- the Jacobs system maximized their defensive skills and eventually they found a role on offense too.

 

[Big Ticket2]

Heard from snow badua's show:

Global gets jwash + unknown petron pick
Barako gets david & lanete
Petron gets kramer & anthony

 

[Cryotek2]

Heard from snow badua's show:

Global gets jwash
Barako gets david & lanete
Petron gets kramer & anthony

Global only gets 1 player for David...future picks should be also consider.

 

[Jay P. Mercado2]

Heard from snow badua's show:

Global gets jwash
Barako gets david & lanete
Petron gets kramer & anthony

In effect:

Global: Gets JWash but loses David
Barako: Gets David & Lanete but loses Kramer and Anthony
Petron: Gets Kramer & Anthony but loses JWash and Lanete

Hmmm...Global is ok with this setup since it's just a one-on-one trade among two marquee players. Age-wise, Global had the edge since they got younger but David has been performing much better recently.

Petron seems to have gained from this setup even if Kramer and Anthony are considered role players. They're actually very important role players for their teams, but then, they did lose JWash and a scrub in Lanete. In a sense, plus for them.

Barako ends up at the losing end. Sure, they get a prolific David and a back-up PG in Lanete but losing Kramer and...Anthony in particular, that's huge. Anthony's stock rose big time last season with Powerade and continues to rise with his hard work at Barako today. Barako also gets a bit older with David around. The positive? They get a go-to player in the clutch.

I think the deal, although not fair for all, will still get the nod of the Commissioner. Assuming this is factual and true.