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PBA 48th season

  • Thread starter Thread starter Silent Killer2
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Just look at the rosters in the preseason games. So many players who are MPBL level but have made it to PBA teams. Looks like we are having a legit "brain drain" and talent exodus. Its only a matter of time when fans will stop watching altogether. You have 3 loaded teams and the rest are just decoration.
 
ginebra should hire a bigger import this commissioner's cup for easl preparation as they already have an established chemistry with brownlee plus brownlee is already overused , give the man a break he's been playing non stop
 
CoJ said:
shows you the level of competition for bigs in the PBA (w/o imports). Only Cstan is the viable threat to junmar.
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CStand's recent quality is something to wish for for our homegrown 4's and 5's. He, along with Carl, has definitely become the template to base on. Hopefully in the next 5 years, more of our 6'6" and above guys become skilled like those 2.
 
CoJ said:
good for the board to realize that they can’t stop players from going abroad

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/...ClhFJpBC8OLOURmGd2bnsMKtz63bg&mibextid=Zxz2cZ
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I saw this interesting bit.

"Zorilla at the same time, pointed out the league has certain rules on eligibility and considers players who finished their collegiate careers, one who already plays pro ball both local and international at a young age, and even the ‘hardship rule’ in which players are allowed to turn pro once he turns 19, are all considered eligible."

Does this mean that any 19-year-old can declare for the draft? The current rule says that 19-year-olds must have had at least two years in college first before being able to declare.
 
IPC said:
I saw this interesting bit.

"Zorilla at the same time, pointed out the league has certain rules on eligibility and considers players who finished their collegiate careers, one who already plays pro ball both local and international at a young age, and even the ‘hardship rule’ in which players are allowed to turn pro once he turns 19, are all considered eligible."

Does this mean that any 19-year-old can declare for the draft? The current rule says that 19-year-olds must have had at least two years in college first before being able to declare.
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Does this even possible with the K-12 program?

5-11/12 years old - kinder - grade 6
12-18/19 years old - grades 7-12
18-19 years old and older - college

Another thing to consider is the cutoff age which means that anyone below 5 years old or born before a specific date cannot be enrolled for kinder. It means that some will start their schooling at age 6.

In my opinion to what Atty. Zorilla said, it is highly unlikely for a 19 year old student to complete two years in this current K-12 set-up, unless the child is accelerated because he is super smart which I doubt if he will aspire to become a basketball player. We are talking about what is usual.

A 19 year old student might be a freshman or is currently in his 2nd year which means that he has yet to complete his 2nd year.

I assume that Atty. Zorilla is basing the rule in the old system.
 
CoJ said:
competition brings the best out of our bigmen, Imagine Junmar playing against 2 big imports instead of lording over unskilled stiffs like Samigue Eman or a aging Eric Menk. Instead bigs in the league would have no reason to improve since their slots are secured, unlike their wing and guard counterparts.

For starters, the 2nd import slot could be given to a FSA if the league doesnt want OP imports that could humiliate the league. This could also be helpful if we want to file FIBA exemptions (establish residency) esp if the FSA is here prior turning 16

and for those who will get displaced by additional imports, heck the minimum pay of the pba could be matched by mpbl and ligang labas anyway. Plus the East Asian diaspora opens roster spots anyway
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June Mar was serviceable in FIBA. Good touch, good rebounder, decent skill in the post, just a poor defender. I think, though, that he could have been more serviceable had he trained differently.

I think the consistent presence of strong imports would have had him train differently. He's great even in import conferences, I understand that. But still, I think the focus would be more on touch, skill, and agility. Even if he liked rice, he would still retain agility with the right training program.
 
Money said:
I think the PBA just realized that there is still a surplus of talents here in the PH even though there are players opting to play abroad.

BUT the catch here is that these surplus of talents are really not at par with those who will be / currently playing abroad.
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its on the PBA on how they will market these players for them to generate revenue, lets be honest, player development is barely the concern of the PBA anyway
 
IPC said:
I saw this interesting bit.

"Zorilla at the same time, pointed out the league has certain rules on eligibility and considers players who finished their collegiate careers, one who already plays pro ball both local and international at a young age, and even the ‘hardship rule’ in which players are allowed to turn pro once he turns 19, are all considered eligible."

Does this mean that any 19-year-old can declare for the draft? The current rule says that 19-year-olds must have had at least two years in college first before being able to declare.
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here's the 2021 amendments to the draft eligibility rules, though it did state that a 19 yr old can enter the league provided that the draftee spent several years in college. I do agree with Ja.he on this, would be impossible for a kid to spent/exhaust years of college eligibility due to the k-12 curriculum.

on the otherhand, players who did not enter/attend/play for college basketball may enter the league at age 22. (the Kai Sotto provision)



link:
https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/...ity-to-19-for-college-student-athletes/214521
 
CoJ said:
its on the PBA on how they will market these players for them to generate revenue, lets be honest, player development is barely the concern of the PBA anyway
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Then why don’t they just allow contract buyouts?

It’s impossible to compete with the B.League and KBL in terms of salary package. Pros will always choose the option with the most money.

We will never run out of hoops talents. If foreign leagues want to sign the Ravenas, Ramoses, Sottos, and Baltazars who are under contract, then the PBA can take advantage of this by allowing contract buyouts to make profit.

This is basically how teams in Europe make money: selling players to richer leagues.
 
CoJ said:
its on the PBA on how they will market these players for them to generate revenue, lets be honest, player development is barely the concern of the PBA anyway
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I think this should be attributed to collegiate basketball as well. As these schools are also paying the players like pros.

well i think it is Ginebra who is only marketable to the fans. But they only have 15 slots to fill in.
 
sroth3839 said:
Then why don’t they just allow contract buyouts?

It’s impossible to compete with the B.League and KBL in terms of salary package. Pros will always choose the option with the most money.

We will never run out of hoops talents. If foreign leagues want to sign the Ravenas, Ramoses, Sottos, and Baltazars who are under contract, then the PBA can take advantage of this by allowing contract buyouts to make profit.

This is basically how teams in Europe make money: selling players to richer leagues.
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this, until long hair and vargas would realize that the buyout provision is a lucrative business then we are stuck with this insular model (RE: european basketball teams and their multi million dollar buyout clauses).

We dont have a shortage if basketball players to begin with, local basketball will never run out of players to capitalize on, and as Money hd said, college basketball will play a big role in player development while the pba could function and earn in polishing players for the intl scene. Everyone wins in this scenario, more slots for local players, additional/more income for teams through buyouts
 
CoJ said:
this, until long hair and vargas would realize that the buyout provision is a lucrative business then we are stuck with this insular model (RE: european basketball teams and their multi million dollar buyout clauses).

We dont have a shortage if basketball players to begin with, local basketball will never run out of players to capitalize on, and as Money hd said, college basketball will play a big role in player development while the pba could function and earn in polishing players for the intl scene. Everyone wins in this scenario, more slots for local players, additional/more income for teams through buyouts
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This is literally how South American and European football clubs outside the big 4 leagues (PL, La Liga, Serie A, and Bundesliga) make money.

The PBA model, based on the NBA, will only work if it’s the topmost league in the world, which isn’t and will never be.
 
sroth3839 said:
This is literally how South American and European football clubs outside the big 4 leagues (PL, La Liga, Serie A, and Bundesliga) make money.

The PBA model, based on the NBA, will only work if it’s the topmost league in the world, which isn’t and will never be.
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well, in the minds of the board, the PBA is still the top in Asia and second only to the NBA hhahaha, seriously the PBA needs newblood in the board
 
It will be black-eye to the PBA if Converge bolts out. They are a growing and profitable company, they will be moving out purely for basketball reasons. It is really ironic that there have been several players and coaches that were concurrently government officials but you cannot seat on the team board if you are a government official. It seems to be a convenient rule just to exclude PIneda. SMC and MVP are afraid of him. But Converge is correct a PBA with an SMC MVP duopoly is boring.
 
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