Olympiacos 2016/17

[Oly_fan2]

Coach: Yannis Bartzokas

Mantzaris, Hacket
Spanoulis, Delaney, Pappas
Lojeski, Papanikolaou, Strawberry*
Printezis, Papapetrou, Agravanis
Young, Hunter, Milutinov

*Not included in the domestic league roster


Just give this team all the trophies from the start, it's perfect. Certain triple crown.

 

[INTEGRAL2]

Is Delaney speculation or serious? I don't think he will be the right player in team Spanoulis runs.

 

[CoachZ2]

So you expect Bartzokas back even though you fired him a year after winning the EL? Beside being the only Greek Coach to win EL. If he does come back, he has zero respect for himself.

Also Delaney will never play second to anybody in the backcourt, so he would be the starting PG instead of Mantzaris, who would run the 2nd unit with Spanoulis.

 

[CoachZ2]

So far regarding Oly rumors is that they are shopping with Cedevita, interested in Bilan and Babic.

Bilan would be a good add.

http://www.sportando.com/en/europe/...bilan-and-luka-babic-for-the-next-season.html

 

[Oly_fan2]

Is Delaney speculation or serious? I don't think he will be the right player in team Spanoulis runs.

Speculation.
Delaney isn't the right player but Odom is?

I don't think Spanoulis enjoys us having one half-court offence play, involving him running into the defence head first.
With Delaney we could mix it up when needed, like we used to do when Law was here and in-form. They wouldn't even be together on the court all the time anyway.

For Bartzokas 3-guard rotations with emphasis on spacing this roster is perfect. It also means that unless Papanikolaou finds his shot we can safely reduce his minutes and have Hacket or Mantzaris defend the lighter small forwards.

I hope the owners are reading this!

 

[Oly_fan2]

So far regarding Oly rumors is that they are shopping with Cedevita, interested in Bilan and Babic.

Bilan would be a good add.

http://www.sportando.com/en/europe/...bilan-and-luka-babic-for-the-next-season.html

Agents trying to increase the price for their players.

So you expect Bartzokas back even though you fired him a year after winning the EL? Beside being the only Greek Coach to win EL. If he does come back, he has zero respect for himself.

Bartzokas is an Olympiacos supporter whose family still lives in Greece.
Signing him wouldn't be hard at all, the only reason he left -I think he resigned actually- was some idiots making a fuss.
I'm not saying we'd get him at half the price but surely he'd come back.

Also Delaney will never play second to anybody in the backcourt, so he would be the starting PG instead of Mantzaris, who would run the 2nd unit with Spanoulis.

Yeah, cause Delaney has this huge need to be a leader and at the forefront.
Two years ago Bartzokas wanted to sign him but Kuban offered more and he went there, to play in eurocup. And I think at that point he wasn't "the go-to guy" either, Kuban had a very expensive roster that they started selling off last summer.

Apparently they get along well with Bartzokas so if we did make an offer comparable to what he would get elsewhere, we 'd have a very good chance.



People already starting to worry...

 

[CoachZ2]

The reason for firing him/asking him to resign is not important at all. Dude won the EL and after 1 bad season he was made to leave, that is absolutely terrible treatment from a club. Good organizations (in terms of people management, not sport results, don't understand me wrong) would not let the influence of fans, non-sport factors etc kick out a young coach, local coach, only local coach with EL title to be fired for 1 bad year. (Especially since they tolerated Duda for so long, who is known for working on cycles and having weak years and building a cycle for a team to peak and win something in a 2-3 year window). Again, it's not a bad thing for Oly to ask him back but for Bartzokas to accept that would be a spineless decision, and big blow to his authority, pride etc. Again, no self-respecting coach would agree to come back after that.

 

[Olympiakos B.C2]

Coach: Yannis Bartzokas

Mantzaris, Hacket
Spanoulis, Delaney, Pappas
Lojeski, Papanikolaou, Strawberry*
Printezis, Papapetrou, Agravanis
Young, Hunter, Milutinov

*Not included in the domestic league roster


Just give this team all the trophies from the start, it's perfect. Certain triple crown.

I believe we should include one more athletic center,in the style of Young-Hunter,because this Year Patrick Young injured,and Othelo Hunter literally ''exausted'',given the inexperience of the young Milutinov,the next season Milutinov will be better,and with Young-Hunter and one more athletic we will be very strong in the paint.The guard aditions of Pappas and Delaney are exellent choices (i dont know if they can really happen).As for the coach,Bartzokas or Sfairopoulos,both exellent coaches(but i think it will be Sfairopoulos again),i dont mind as long as they are Greeks (and with Greeks of course i include Millan Tomic also,he is the connection of Olympiacos of the 90's with the present Olympiacos),not because i dont like foreign coaches,but Greek coaches can match with the mentallity of the Team more easily.

 

[Johnny72]

Another stupid topic, this is madness, can we first play the Greek finals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on, have some patience.

If you open this topic, open also Olympiakos 2020/21...............

 

[Olympiakos B.C2]

Another stupid topic, this is madness, can we first play the Greek finals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on, have some patience.

If you open this topic, open also Olympiakos 2020/21...............

But we will and ''must'' have about the same Team the next Year in my opinion,with just some quallity aditions,so why not from now?It's not like we're talking to change the whole of the Team!

 

[Johnny72]

But we will and ''must'' have about the same Team the next Year in my opinion,with just some quallity aditions,so why not from now?It's not like we're talking to change the whole of the Team!

This is absolutely crazy, this guy that opened this topic wants Bartzokas back.... hahahahaha what is this. First they curse at him, then they want him back.

Our team always handles contracts and new players after the Greek finals, untill then is just pure speculation and rumors.

I dont agree with you, we must support our current players instead of talking about new players already, this is so pre-mature and disrespectful for our current squad.

 

[Olympiakos B.C2]

This is absolutely crazy, this guy that opened this topic wants Bartzokas back.... hahahahaha what is this. First they curse at him, then they want him back.

Our team always handles contracts and new players after the Greek finals, untill then is just pure speculation and rumors.

I dont agree with you, we must support our current players instead of talking about new players already, this is so pre-mature and disrespectful for our current squad.

I support fully our current Team,but you may be right here,maybe it is early to speak about the next years team.But let's not fool ourselfs everybody thinks the next Euroleague already!And as i said we must not change so ''much'' the next Year,and i dont care about the coach,i like both Sfairopoulos and Bartzokas,both had taken the team to the euroleague final.

 

[KWSN-Men2]

So you expect Bartzokas back even though you fired him a year after winning the EL? Beside being the only Greek Coach to win EL. If he does come back, he has zero respect for himself.

Also Delaney will never play second to anybody in the backcourt, so he would be the starting PG instead of Mantzaris, who would run the 2nd unit with Spanoulis.

Actually, Bartzokas resigned after some hardcore fans messed up his car and pushed him around. Oly presidents were aware the fans wanted to do this but decided to do nothing to prevent it.

 

[Olympiakos B.C2]

And one more and last thing because this thread is indeed a little to early.No matter how i Love this Team,i believe this Year was a failure,we must all admit that if we are to be a better Team,but there is a serious excuse for this,and this is of course the injuries and that the Team lost it's rythm .We had ''Huge'' success in the previous years,and of course i dont expect,every year to play F4 or to win the Euroleague Title,i would be crazy if i expected this!
Teams like Olympiacos every year play to win the Euroleague,but i believe the red line is the Quarterfinals,if we play in Quarterfinals is a success,but if we dont its a failure and we must all think of this..

 

[childress672]

Mantzaris,delaney,hackett
Spanoulis,wanamaker,papas
Lojeski,papanikolaou,papapetrou
Printezis,Miller,
Young,hunter,Thompson

 

[KWSN-Men2]

How much will Olympiakos pay for Pappas and Miller to PAO and MTA?

 

[Cuneyt2]

if we play in Quarterfinals is a success,but if we dont its a failure and we must all think of this..

This is more or less what I think for all teams independent of depth of roster, budget, star names, fan base etc.
If a team makes it to playoffs, it is successful for that year.

 

[Johnny72]

This is more or less what I think for all teams independent of depth of roster, budget, star names, fan base etc.
If a team makes it to playoffs, it is successful for that year.

I don't agree.
This Europe season is a failure, also the play offs would have been a failure.
We increased the budget from last season so the minimum should have been the F4 for us not to see this season as a failure.

 

[papalouki-louk2]

All i want from Oly 2016/2017 is the clown in the bench to leave
Then everything will be ok, the roster is fine we only want 2 good signings in PF and guards

 

[Johnny72]

Stop it, it's annnoying all the time you curse at our coach. What did Sfairopoulos do to you? All the time you blame him, is it his mistake some players miss 20 shots in a game?
Sfairopoulos was a god last year, now all of a sudden he is shit?
This is not the coach fault, but in Greece in sports we never blame the players, only the coach, because people are short sighted and want to take the easy way out.
Sack the coach and everything will be fine, but the players that scewed us can stay. Not logical like many things in Greece.