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NBA Playoffs: The Contenders, The Threats and The Ones to be Elminated

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In any NBA Playoffs there's three types of teams: The Contenders, The Threats and The Easy Ones.

The Contenders are those who will be fitting not only for a spot in the NBA Finals but the chance to lift the title. In my opinion, in the Western Conference, obviously the Lakers are one, Dallas and the multi-dimensional/ versatile squad and the Denver Nuggets. In the East, the only team I believe will have a chance of lifting the trophy is the Cavs. The Magic do not have the type of squad like last year, which will be able to defeat the Cavs, the Hawks are yet to reach the NBA Eastern Conference Finals and their inexperience could be costly in big time moments and the Boston Celtics are not the type of team they were back in 2008. Sure enough their experience is immense but will those "old legs" be able to keep up with the Cavs.

The Threats are those teams most likely to make an upset not only in the first round but possibly in the Eastern Conference Semi-Finals. In the East, I believe that the Hawks if they finish 4th will be a definite "threat" as long as they take care of business in the 1st round. They have the athleticism and determination to finally bypass the Cavs and reach the Conference Finals. They have had the same coach for the past few seasons and have been eliminated by the "Big Boyz" of the East thus, they're determined and very, very hungry to finally crack the East. The other "Threat" is the Miami Heat because they have a special player who can rise up to the occasion and dominate a game by his versatility, athleticism, leadership and defense. In the West, there is one team that will definitely come to my mind of possibly shaking up the pecking order: San Antonio Spurs. Like Boston, they do have "old legs", RJ has not been the type of player that they had expected him to be, Tony P is injured and Timmy as well as the Argentinian Sensation both have had an inconsistent season and are not the same like they were back in their championship winning seasons. However, they have probably the second best coach currently in the NBA or one could say the best defensive coach in the NBA and on top of that they know how to play "playoff basketball". Their wealth of experience and guidance from one of the best coaches of all time could lead them to possibly winning in the 1st round and possibly doing some heavy damage to whoever they take on in the Western Conference Semi Finals.

Finally, "The Easy Ones" are those who are pretty much there to make up the numbers only to be brushed aside by one of the big boyz of their conference. Toronto, Charlotte and Memphis are the ones I believe would be considered "Easy Ones".

In summary,

Cleveland: Title Contenders
Orlando: Threats
Atlanta: Threats
Boston: Threats
Miami: Threats
Milwaukee: Was a Threat until Bogut got injured and now I would consider them Easy Ones
Charlotte: Easy Ones
Toronto: Easy Ones


Los Angeles: Title Contenders
Dallas: Title Contenders
Denver: Title Contenders
Utah: Threats
Phoenix: Threats
Oklahoma City: Threats
San Antonio: Threats
Portland: Easy Ones
 
IMO

Contenders: Lakers, Cavaliers, Magic.

Lakers and Cavs are self explanatory, but the Magic proved their worth getting to the finals last year. They were supposed to struggle without Hedo, but Vince has filled in nicely. It helps that Dwight is living up to the Superman nick. Somehow he's found ways to become more dominant!

Threats: Hawks, Nuggets, Suns, Jazz, Mavericks

The Hawks are a team I think that's a piece or two away, that said Orlando and the Cavs would prefer not to play them. For the West that 2 seed is wiiiide open. The Lakers have looked mortal and recent weeks and I do not consider them a lock for the playoffs. Out of the choices above I believe the Nuggets have the best shot of beating the Lakers but only if George Karl returns. No matter the Lakers will face stiff competition from the second round through the championship.


Easy Ones: The remainders
The Bucks even when healthy aren't a threat to the Magic and Cavs imo. Without Bogut they have no shot. The Heat are Dwayne Wade, and while that's pretty damn good, it's not good enough against the top two. The Celtics are just too inconsistent. They can give the Cavs and Magic a fight, but I don't believe they can win.

In the west the Zombie Sonics (Thunder? What Thunder?) are probably the toughest matchup outside the top 5. They're really young, and I don't expect much from them. The season's already a success. They will push who they play to 6 though.

The Spurs, they will be a tough out, they're getting healthy, they're hella experienced, and very very talented. I pity the team that faces them in the first round. The only team I think that's guaranteed to beat them is the Lakers. They can knock off a threat team, but I don't think they can knock off more than one.
 
This is how I see things shaping up



Cleveland: Title Contenders
Orlando: Threats
Atlanta: Threats
Boston: Threats
Miami: Easy Ones
Milwaukee: Was a Threat until Bogut got injured and now I would consider them Easy Ones
Charlotte: Easy Ones
Toronto: Easy Ones if they even make the Playoffs.


Los Angeles: Title Contenders
Dallas: Title Contenders
Denver: Title Contenders
Utah: Threats
Phoenix: Threats
Oklahoma City: Threats
San Antonio: Threats
Portland: Wouldn't really say easy ones. I can see them possibly making the second round
 
I would downgrade the Denver Nuggets to "threat" from contenders as George Karl and the likes of Carmelo and Billups we're openly admitting that they are less of championship caliber team without Martin's presence.

While the Celtics believe that they are contenders through taking a citation in history where the 1968-69 Celtics were able to do it through veteran ruggedness in which today's semi gray cast of the Celtic roster would like to emulate.
 
For me it's:

Cleveland: Title Contenders
Orlando: Title Contenders
Atlanta: Threats
Boston: Threats
Miami: Easy Ones
Milwaukee: Easy Ones
Charlotte: Easy Ones
Toronto: Easy Ones


Los Angeles: Title Contenders
Dallas: Title Contenders
Denver: Title Contenders
Utah: Threats
Phoenix: Threats
San Antonio: Threats (if Tony Parker has fully recovered and is playing in the playoffs)
Oklahoma City: Easy Ones
Portland: Easy Ones
 
Cleveland: Title Contenders
Orlando: Title Contenders
Atlanta: Threats
Boston: Title Contenders (it would be a fatal mistake to rule them out)
Miami: Easy Ones
Milwaukee: Easy Ones (borderland threath with Bogut)
Charlotte: Easy Ones
Toronto/Chicago: Easy Ones


Los Angeles: Title Contenders
Dallas: Threaths
Denver: Title Contenders (if Martin gets back)
Utah: Threats
Phoenix: Threats
San Antonio: Threats (if Tony Parker has fully recovered and is playing in the playoffs)
Oklahoma City: Title Contenders
Portland: Threaths
 
Oklahoma City: Title Contenders

:eek: ... amazing ... well everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

Though I don't see their "mini Big 3" winning it all this season, I can definitely see them winning within 3 years time.
 
There are only three teams i can consider "serious contenders": Lakers, Magic and Cavaliers. One is a defending champion, another was a finalist last year and the last has Lebron.

No disrespect to the other Western "threats" namely, Mavs, Jazz, Nuggets and maybe Spurs.
 
:eek: ... amazing ... well everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

Though I don't see their "mini Big 3" winning it all this season, I can definitely see them winning within 3 years time.

Check who's playing at center in okc :p

Seriously, i think the suns, dallas, and even the spurs on various levels proved in the (semi recent) past that the final standing don't mean much except for LA or utah - they need home advantage -.

I am pretty surprised to see people rank portland among the easiest opponents, camby & miller have fixed a lot of their weaknesses thinking of the PO, and the bench is not going to keep struggling the way it is right now. There is some talent over there and a decent mix of young & experienced players. And way less stereotyped games by mc millan between his 1st and 2nd unit rotations. Their most difficult match up is denver (despite the results against utah this year) and there are high chances that they don't get them in the 1st round.

Even if western conference is as usual the hardest one to predict, i think Dallas are really overrated imo for sure, just like the suns or utah for various reasons - bench, home advantage and poor performance on the road, match-up against other western conf teams etc.

Eastern conference being way easier to predict, unless the bulls manage to kick toronto for the 8th - and still, they are coming from too far imo, but i wanna see lbj try to dance during 1st game of the serie to see what it might trigger :D

Anyway, my own "ranking"

Western conference
LA : title contender
Denver = title contender
Utah = threat
Dallas = easy one (sorry dirk fans :D)
Suns = threat
Okc = easy one (lack of experience and no respect from ref most likely)
SA = threat
Portland = threat

East conference
Cleveland = title contender
Orlando = threat
Atlanta = threat
Boston = title contender
Milwaukee = easy one
miami = very easy one
charlotte = threat (if injured ppl come back)
toronto = very easy one
bulls = easy one
 
East

truly Title contender:
the is only one team that fits this description:
"Cleveland"

1st tier Threat
Orlando

2nd tier Threats:
Atlanta (the only reason they are not title contenders is because they have no bench, btw Crawford does not count as bench player)

Possible Second round teams:
Boston
Charlotte

Possible First round 7 game series teams: (Easy ones)
Miami
Milwaukee (with Bogut the were and ok team, but is not like Bogut was going to get them to the Finals, or even the second round)

Garbage ones:(teams that will we sweep, and possibly lose one of their best players in free agency next summer as a consequence)
Toronto/Chicago



West

truly Title contender:
like in the east, there is only one team in the west that fits this description:
"Los Angeles Lakers"

1st tier Threats
Utah
Phoenix

2nd tier Threats:
Dallas
Denver
Oklahoma City

Possible Second round team:
San Antonio

Possible First round 7 game series team: (Easy ones)
Portland

Garbage ones:(teams that will we sweep, and possibly lose one of their best players in free agency next summer as a consequence)
None, all teams from the west are decently good
 
Cleveland: Title Contenders
Orlando: Threats
Atlanta: Threats
Boston: Threats
Miami: Threats
Milwaukee: Was a Threat until Bogut got injured and now I would consider them Easy Ones
Charlotte: Easy Ones
Toronto: Easy Ones


Los Angeles: Title Contenders
Dallas: Title Contenders
Denver: Title Contenders
Utah: Threats
Phoenix: Threats
Oklahoma City: Threats
San Antonio: Threats
Portland: Easy Ones
That's more or less what I would say.

Cleveland: Title Contender
Orlando: Threat
Atlanta: Meh.
Boston: Meh.
Miami: Easy one
Milwaukee: Easy one
Charlotte: Easy one
Toronto: Easy one

Los Angeles: Title Contenders
San Antonio: Threat
Dallas: Threat
Denver: Meh.
Utah: Meh.
Phoenix: Easy one
Oklahoma City: Easy one
Portland: Easy One
 
East

truly Title contender:
the is only one team that fits this description:
"Cleveland"

1st tier Threat
Orlando

2nd tier Threats:
Atlanta (the only reason they are not title contenders is because they have no bench, btw Crawford does not count as bench player)

Possible Second round teams:
Boston
Charlotte

Possible First round 7 game series teams: (Easy ones)
Miami
Milwaukee (with Bogut the were and ok team, but is not like Bogut was going to get them to the Finals, or even the second round)

Garbage ones:(teams that will we sweep, and possibly lose one of their best players in free agency next summer as a consequence)
Toronto/Chicago



West

truly Title contender:
like in the east, there is only one team in the west that fits this description:
"Los Angeles Lakers"

1st tier Threats
Utah
Phoenix

2nd tier Threats:
Dallas
Denver
Oklahoma City

Possible Second round team:
San Antonio

Possible First round 7 game series team: (Easy ones)
Portland

Garbage ones:(teams that will we sweep, and possibly lose one of their best players in free agency next summer as a consequence)
None, all teams from the west are decently good

I like your description and attention to detail rather than my three tier category because my categories are too general for the NBA Playoffs. My bad.
 
Grading each team

Grading each team

Here's my "grades" out of 10 for each NBA franchise on their performance in the regular season:


Cleveland 9.5/10
Orlando 8.5/10
Atlanta 8.5/10
Boston 7/10
Milwaukee 10/10
Miami 7/10
Charlotte 8.5/10
Toronto 6.5/10
Chicago 7/10
Indiana 5/10
New York 4/10
Philadelphia 4/10
Detroit 4/10
Washington 3.5/10
New Jersey 2/10


L.A. Lakers 9.5/10
Dallas 8.5/10
Denver 7.5/10
Utah 7.5/10
Phoenix 7/10
Oklahoma City 10/10
San Antonio 6.5/10
Portland 7.5/10
Houston 9/10
Memphis 9/10
New Orleans 7/10
L.A. Clippers 5.5/10
Sacramento 5.5/10
Golden State 4/10
Minnesota 3.5/10
 
My Regular Season Awards

My Regular Season Awards

Most Valuable Player: LeBron James
Defensive Player of the Year: Dwight Howard
Most Improved Player: Andrew Bogut
Coach of the Year: Scott Brooks
Rookie of the Year: Tyreke Evans

All NBA First Team:

Guard: Steve Nash
Guard: Kobe Bryant
Forward: Carmelo Anthony
Forward: LeBron James
Centre: Dwight Howard

All NBA Second Team:

Guard: Dwayne Wade
Guard: Deron Williams
Forward: Dirk Nowitzki
Forward: Kevin Durant
Centre: Amare Stoudemire

All NBA Third Team:

Guard: Jason Kidd
Guard: Rashon Rondo
Forward: Gerald Wallace
Forward: Pau Gasol
Centre: Andrew Bogut
 
Barkley picks Cavaliers to win NBA title

NEW YORK (AP) -- Charles Barkley wonders if the Cleveland Cavaliers are resting LeBron James too much, but doesn't see anything stopping them from winning their first NBA title.

Not a banged-up Kobe Bryant and the defending champion Los Angeles Lakers. And certainly not the aging Boston Celtics, who the Hall of Famer believes have too much mileage on their legs to mount a real threat.

"When you get older and people say, 'When we get healthy,"' Barkley said Tuesday during a conference call. "Older people die, they don't get healthier."

Cleveland and Boston could meet in the second round, and Barkley sees the Cavaliers advancing.

"I think the Cavaliers are going to win the whole thing," he said.

Barkley and fellow TNT analysts Kevin McHale and Doug Collins all agree that a potential Cleveland-Orlando matchup would make a terrific Eastern Conference final, with the winner likely meeting the Lakers for the championship.

But they aren't ready to guarantee Los Angeles a third straight trip to the NBA finals.

"The Lakers appear to be the team to beat (in the West), but they've got a lot of question marks right now," Collins said, listing Bryant's condition, their depth if Andrew Bynum isn't healthy, and their ability to defend quick point guards.

McHale said he would be less surprised than others if the Lakers weren't in the finals, especially after getting a look at Bryant's broken right index finger when the reigning NBA finals MVP appeared recently on the NBA TV studio show that features McHale. The injury has caused Bryant to shoot poorly late in the season.

"His finger looks just as bad as it did during the All-Star game. I was surprised it didn't look a lot better," McHale said. "That thing is really, really looking bad. The swelling hasn't gone down. It still looks really, really funky."

Fear of injuries is part of the reason Cavaliers coach Mike Brown has rested James the last three games with home-court advantage throughout the NBA finals already secured. He may consider playing the league's MVP Wednesday in the season finale against Atlanta, when Shaquille O'Neal is expected to return from his thumb injury.

Barkley thinks James probably should play. He felt it was a mistake that he, Kevin Johnson and Dan Majerle rested so much after Phoenix wrapped everything up in 1993. The Suns were rusty when they opened the playoffs against the Lakers and immediately fell into a 2-0 hole at home, forcing them to play more games than necessary before eventually reaching the finals.

"I'm a little surprised they've rested LeBron as much as possible," Barkley said. "It's not like he's 39 years old, so I think Cleveland has to really be careful."

The Celtics once looked like the biggest threat to Cleveland, but have struggled over the second half of the season and don't defend nearly as well as they did while winning the 2008 championship.

"You can see they're not the same. The energy level is not the same," Barkley said.

"I think the Celtics went for it, they won a championship, and now they're just an older team. Kevin Garnett is one of my favorite players. You can just tell he's not the same player."

The postseason opens Saturday, and TNT begins its coverage with three games Sunday.
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/04/13/barkley.prediction.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2
 
Elio, I'll be really surprised of Phoenix "does some damage" in the play-offs. Maybe they can get to the second round, but after that, I think they're toast. :D

;);) PHX 3-0 SAS. Goran Dragic was simply amaizing in this 4th qtr :eek::eek:.
You never know, playing like they are the Suns might pull an upset against LA :o.
 
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