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NBA official wants traveling clarification

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The head of officials for the NBA wants to rewrite the league's traveling rule to legalize taking a "second step" and clarify what he considers a hard-to-enforce rule.

"I wrote a version and I put it out there," said Joe Borgia, the NBA's vice president of referee operations. Borgia said he's waiting for the league's upper management to decide if they support the change.

Traveling In The NBA

Rivers The traveling call is under fire in the NBA. TrueHoop investigates.

* Introduction: A basic rule, yet a mystery
* "We really don't reference the rulebook"
* NBA players on video: What's the rule?
* Why traveling is tough to call
* NBA Traveling: Rewrite the rule

The rule book says players get one step without dribbling, shooting or passing before they will be called for traveling. In practice, NBA players get two steps on a regular basis -- and have for years. "We really don't reference the rulebook," Borgia said in an interview with TrueHoop's Henry Abbott.

Borgia claims the current rule is so confusing that it's impossible to tell if it allows one step or two. The suspicion is that the NBA ignores the rule to inspire exciting offensive players to create great moments. Borgia insists the rule is ignored simply because its intent is lost in a tangle of legalistic terminology.

The NBA's official rule says that "a player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion of a dribble, may use a two-count rhythm in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball. The first count occurs (1) As he receives the ball, if either foot is touching the floor at the time he receives it; or (2) As the foot touches the floor, or as both feet touch the floor simultaneously after he receives the ball, if both feet are off the floor when he receives it.

"The second occurs (1) After the count of one when either foot touches the floor, or both feet touch the floor simultaneously."

That allows for interpretation -- and some confusion. "The book possibly could be interpreted differently from what actually happens. You could read it so that it's almost like you're allowed one. If you interpret it that way, right. That's where we're having an issue."

League officiating instructors have been interpreting it as two steps. Officials are taught that, Borgia said.

"Forever, as long as I can remember, a player has been allowed two steps," said Borgia, whose father was an NBA referee for the league's first two decades, and then a referee supervisor. "I've never heard anything other than that ... Everyone in the world knows you're allowed two steps."

Borgia's new version of the rule would clarify that. "We're not really making a rule change," he said. "We're just trying to write the rule that makes sense."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3951002
 
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DAMN IT YOU BEAT ME TO IT!!! I WAS SOO PUMPED TO START THIS THREAD!

I guess i'll be your sidekick and help out

all are from espn nba site

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop...-We-Really-Don-t-Reference-the-Rulebook-.html

it has a great video on it

http://espn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-38-271/NBA-Traveling--A-Rule-That-s-Unclear-to-Players.html

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3951002
lebron23 posted this one already

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-38-272/NBA-Traveling--Always-Been-a-Tough-Rule-to-Call.html


clyde frazier bitches the nba somewhere in one of these links as well as many of us fans in the world.
 
Some interesting comments off the True Hoop board (ESPN) :

"1. The same players (James, Wade) that are being talked about as travelling the most are also the two leading mvp candidates and the league's most popular players. Allowing them an extra step results in more highlight-reel dunks and finishes around the rim. It also makes them almost impossible to stop defensively (along with no hand-checking and favorable block/charge calls). The league wants the next jordan (a seemingly unstoppable scorer) for marketing purposes, so they just change the rules to make guys who drive the lane unstoppable. "


"Rewrite the rule so uneducated players with no fundamentals don't have to learn how to play the game correctly.

Rewrite the rule so Stern and the NBA money machine can continue to capitalize on entertaining offense that defense has no chance to stop (touch a player at all, it's a foul, much harder to defend someone who can freely run without dribbling).

Rewrite the rule so fans can't complain about lack of integrity in the supposedly highest form of basketball on the planet (whatever, arrogance is bliss).

It's all about the benjamins...NBA is not about competition. WWF with a ball."


"I completely agree with the points made about not being able to watch everything. That's why the rule should be simplified, not complicated with more judgements about what a "gather" means...

A player should get two steps from last dribble. And the dribble ends when the ball leaves the ground. A ref doesn't have to watch how a player gathers because it wouldn't matter. Two steps after a the last dribble leave the floor. Or in the case of a pass on the run -- two steps from the catch."
 
It's blatant the way the NBA allows traveling. And the Olympics decided to allow the same thing, but it was only Team USA that was allowed to do it. Bottom line is 90% of those ESPN Sportscenter dunks come from travels. In other leagues that isn't allowed.

This results in an overwhelming opinion that the NBA has "the world's greatest basketball athletes". Sure they have many, but as an example in Europe there are a lot great dunkers and they are not allowed to do that.

Since the NBA's way was enforced at the Olympics under so-called "FIBA rules" I guess it's just a mater of time until ULEB starts allowing traveling also. But then the NBA will have an image problem when dunk highlights start appearing all the time from Euroleague and Eurocup games.
 
nba is becoming some kind of reality show. next champion would be decided by fans telephon wotes. every year it becomes worse. i just can't belive what kind of crap stern sells to americans. unfortunaly bartomeo from uleb started copying stupid stern. basketball R.I.P.
 
It's blatant the way the NBA allows traveling. And the Olympics decided to allow the same thing, but it was only Team USA that was allowed to do it. Bottom line is 90% of those ESPN Sportscenter dunks come from travels. In other leagues that isn't allowed.

This results in an overwhelming opinion that the NBA has "the world's greatest basketball athletes". Sure they have many, but as an example in Europe there are a lot great dunkers and they are not allowed to do that.

Since the NBA's way was enforced at the Olympics under so-called "FIBA rules" I guess it's just a mater of time until ULEB starts allowing traveling also. But then the NBA will have an image problem when dunk highlights start appearing all the time from Euroleague and Eurocup games.
Wow. Seriously? The FIBA rules are exactly the same as the NCAA rules. The words are a little different, but the rules are exactly the same.

Honestly, I didn't know that the rules for traveling were so complicated in the NBA rulebook. That's ridiculous.

Why is it so hard? The NCAA, high school and FIBA rules are pretty clear. They seem to do a much better job. I always assumed there were those "superstar winks" that the refs gave, but this is really ridiculous.
 
Honestly, I didn't know that the rules for traveling were so complicated in the NBA rulebook. That's ridiculous.

Seriously, who came up with "two-count rhythm"?

Despite the clearer wording of the rule, I don't think there's a huge difference in how travelling is called at lower levels compared to the NBA.
 
Despite the clearer wording of the rule, I don't think there's a huge difference in how travelling is called at lower levels compared to the NBA.
Yes. Well, there shouldn't be a difference. And frankly, I imagine that if somebody went through all the rules, they would find that the NBA traveling rule is pretty much the same...except that it's called differently, I think. That is, NBA refs don't seem to call traveling very often.
 
Wow. Seriously? The FIBA rules are exactly the same as the NCAA rules. The words are a little different, but the rules are exactly the same.

Honestly, I didn't know that the rules for traveling were so complicated in the NBA rulebook. That's ridiculous.

Why is it so hard? The NCAA, high school and FIBA rules are pretty clear. They seem to do a much better job. I always assumed there were those "superstar winks" that the refs gave, but this is really ridiculous.

If you remember it was said by FIBA that the Olympics would be "reffed more like the NBA". This was why the traveling was allowed for Team USA. If you look back at the 2006 Worlds, none of that was allowed.

On the other hand they still reffed the perimeter defense the opposite way the NBA does.
 
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I totally agree with you, because i remember that moment.
 
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