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Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez (WBC Super Featherweight Championship)

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Pacquiao won by too close split decision.. Because of his more power punches over Marquez. But Marquez is faster and he knows style of Pacquiao but he fell short. Pacquiao's smart fighter, he floored Marquez at almost the end of round three, Pacquiao doesn't pushed Marquez when Marquez getting up for almost finishing the fight but too late.

Ratings skills(NO BIAS):

Power: Pacquiao 95, Marquez 75

Speed: Pacquiao 90, Marquez 90

Hitting awareness: Pacquiao 95, Marquez 95

Defense: Pacquiao 85, Marquez 90

Body Strength: Pacquiao 95, Marquez 85

Stamina: Pacquiao 95, Marquez 95
 
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Pacquiao slips by Marquez!

Pacquiao slips by Marquez!

joel23 said:
Good day! Anyone who watching live per-per-view or something?

I predict Manny for 7 round???

9:23 PM PT - March 15, 2008

After battling to a draw in their first bout, Manny Pacquiao (46-3-2, 34 KOs) won a split decision over Juan Manuel Marquez (48-4-1, 35 KOs) to take Marquez' WBC super featherweight title on Saturday night at the Mandalay Bay Resort in Las Vegas. Marquez seemed to have an edge in the early rounds as he was able to land clean counter shots against Pacman's aggressions. Pacquiao floored Marquez at the end of round three with a left hand and nearly put him down again at the bell. Marquez went to the wrong corner. Pacquiao continued to fight hard in the fourth but Marquez responded well. Marquez landed some good rights in the fifth as pressure from Pacquiao subsided. The fight continued at a slow pace in the sixth, which was favorable to the technically superior Marquez as he continued to outbox Pacman. Both Pacquiao and Marquez were cut by an unintentional headbutt in the seventh. The blood inspired Pacquiao, who had his best round since the fourth. It was Marquez, who opened up the cut over Pacquiao's right eye in the eighth and he punished Pacquiao the entire round. Pacquiao had his rhythm back in the ninth landing some good shots. Marquez' cut worsened. Pacquiao rocked Marquez again in the tenth. Marquez may have taken the last two rounds. Scores were 115-112, 114-113 Pacquiao, 115-112 Marquez.

Marquez technically won the fight, landed more punches, connected more power shots and yet was robbed. Poor Manny Pacquiao, he knows deep in his heart that Marquez is the better fighter than him.
 
I think Pacquiao won the fight fair and square. Much as in the Barrera fight, Pacman took the fight to Marquez most of the time. Unlike in amateur boxing, aggressiveness is a factor in a fight. In an iffy round where neither fighter could outpunch the other, judges would favor the one taking the initiative than a backpedalling fighter..This is also a 10-must scoring system where if Marquez did outpunch Pacman 3-1 as he did in the rounds he won, it would still be 10-9 in the scorecards.Therefore, cumulative punches need not necesarily apply.
What i did was watched the replay on tv, turn the audio off to eliminate commentator bias, and judged the fight as objectively as possible, and here's my take for the fight:

kwill's scorecard::)

rounds
1 10-9 pacquiao
2 10-9 Marquez
3 10-8 Pacquiao
4 10-9 Pacquiao
5 10-9 Marquez
6 10-9 Pacquiao
7 10-9 Marquez
8 10-9 Marquez
9 10-9 Pacquiao
10 10-9 Pacquiao
11 10-9 Marquez
12 10-9 Marquez
Total:114-113 Pacquiao

Definitely Marquez is a hard fight for pacman but imo Morales is the the better fight simply because unlike either Barrera or Marquez, Morales took the initiative in attacking Pacquiao. Mostly, Marquez just waited for Pacquiao to launch his counters or backpedalled away from exchanges.Cheers!:D looking forward for the pacquiao-diaz brawl.
 
Pinoy fans more relieved than thrilled

Pinoy fans more relieved than thrilled

Philstar
By Nelson Beltran
Monday, March 17, 2008

As the ring announcer barked the emergence of Manny Pacquiao as the new world featherweight champion, there was a subdued celebration and some sighs of relief.

It was the scene inside Robinson’s Galleria Cinema 1, and apparently the same atmosphere pervaded in other moviehouses that showed the Manny Pacquiao-Manuel Marquez fight yesterday.

The nation was happy Pacquiao won the bout but many were not convinced on whether the Filipino ring idol really pulled it off over his crafty and gritty Mexican rival.

The decision was silently discussed practically by everybody as they lined up to the exits.

Celebrities Noel Trinidad, Gary Lising and Leo Martinez exchanged notes. Sportswriters Arman Armero and Dominic Menor were in a huddle with GMA-7’s Barbette Atienza, each one having reservation on whether Pacquiao was really the rightful winner.

“It’s Marquez,” said PBA media bureau chief Willie Marcial.

“It’s a tough call. Of course, I’m happy Manny won but it’s really far from convincing,” said Francis Macaraeg, an overseas Filipino worker from Valenzuela.

“Manny said his business with Marquez is over but he wasn’t really able to prove he’s the better boxer than the Mexican. Marquez is really a tough customer for Pacquiao. If not for the third-round knockdown, it would have been a clear win for Marquez,” said Sammy Talon, an eatery owner also from Valenzuela.

“Marquez took control most of the way. He landed not only more but the better punches. It would have been all right if it ended in a draw,” said Pedro Santos, an elderly from Cainta.

“Marquez proved to be the right match for Manny. He should avoid this guy,” said Gerard Laxamana, a student from Pasig.

Nonetheless, there’s a swelling of national pride.

“Pacquiao once again showed great courage. He faced a tough opponent but he never backed down. He made me feel proud to be a Filipino,” said Joseph Mirales, another student from Pasig.

For a few hours, Pacquiao again unified the nation while fighting atop the ring in Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, Nevada.

There was no anti-GMA or pro-GMA rallies on the streets as supporters all stayed glued to television sets or giant screens put up all over the country, standing united to rally behind Pacquiao one more time.

As in his last fights versus Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera, traffic was lighter than the normal Sunday fare with several establishments opting to open late or cease operation during the bout.

There were already happy faces on the streets by 12:30 p.m. as the bout was covered live by DZBB.

“I’m very proud and very happy that once again my son won his fight,” Pacquiao’s mother, Dionisia, said on the radio interview.

She prayed the rosary inside the Pacquiao mansion in Gen. Santos City while his son was fighting.

Streets were relatively quiet from morning till early afternoon as most people stayed home for the bout.

In cities and towns across the country, people from all walks of life took a break from their daily routines.

Rolly Dungca, a jeepney driver in Quezon City, said he worked overtime the other night so he could watch the fight.

“Eh, kahit bumyahe ako, wala rin naman kikitain. Walang tao sa karsada. Parang napaaga ang Good Friday,” said Dungca.

Engineer Ariel Francisco, a construction contractor, cancelled overtime work for his workers.

If you have observed closely, after the final bell had sounded, Marquez raised his hands in triumph. Pacquiao on the other hand, was tentative but eventually raised his. When the first two of the judges score cards were announced, Pacquiao approached Marquez, unsure of himself whether he won or not. He was more than surprised that he had won upon hearing the last score card.....what a relief indeed.:D :p
 
Punch-stats: Marquez connects more blows

Punch-stats: Marquez connects more blows

Philstar - March 17, 2008

Based on the figures released to the media just minutes after the fight, Marquez threw less punches as compared to Pacquiao, 511-619.

But as far as the batting average is concerned, Marquez enjoyed the better numbers, connecting 172 times for 34 percent. Pacquiao landed 157 punches for 25 percent.

The only bright note for Pacquiao on the punch-stats came in the jab department as he threw a total of 314 jabs and connected 43 times. Marquez threw his left jab only 201 times but found the target 42 times.

In the power-punches department, Marquez was also ahead, throwing 310 and landing 130 compared to Pacquiao who threw them 305 times and landed only 114 times.

“The people know that I won this. I connected more punches, more jabs and I thought I won,” said Marquez after the fight which ended in a split decision favoring the Filipino, now the new WBC super-featherweight champion.

“It was hell of a fight. And we don’t want to take anything away from Pacquiao. But we, and some of the media felt that Marquez won the fight,” said his promoter, Richard Schaeffer of Golden Boy.

“The fight is not about one round. It’s about 12 rounds,” said Jaime Quintana, a member of Team Marquez. – Abac Cordero

Even if the 10 point scoring system did apply, it is only logical that it favors the boxer landing more punches round per round. But sometimes, judges see it the other way around.

Marquez was definitely the more superior boxer, as a counter-puncher, naturally he backpedals and wait for the punches and give his own. In the end the third round knockdown did him in. An almost complete replay of their first fight.

My score card: 115-112 in Marquez favor. :D
 
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It was definitely a close call and the victory could have gone either way...If not for the 3rd round KO, Pacquiao could have lost that fight(thats automatic 10-8 in round 8) and yeah many had it 115-112 for Marquez, even Yahoo Sports. But not to take anything away from the Pacman, he was standing at the end of the bout despite being blooded, fought a good fight and deserved the win on probably crucial "breaks"(some rounds that were too close to call could have been called in his favor). But I also admired how JMM fought with a big heart, and he deserves a rematch.
 
If it were an AMATEUR fight, the judges would have scored it differently. BUT this was a professional fight. Though it was too close to call, I felt Pacquiao deserved to win the fight. I scored it the same as the Lederman card.
 
Well I don't give a @#$% about the score!... Pacquiao WIN!... period.... :) :)
 
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There have been reports that since Pacquiao has beaten all the good Mexican boxers in his weight class, his next fight will be against Zorro. :D
 
JonarSabilano said:
There have been reports that since Pacquiao has beaten all the good Mexican boxers in his weight class, his next fight will be against Zorro. :D

:D :D :D
 
dreamwalker said:
Based on the figures released to the media just minutes after the fight, Marquez threw less punches as compared to Pacquiao, 511-619.

But as far as the batting average is concerned, Marquez enjoyed the better numbers, connecting 172 times for 34 percent. Pacquiao landed 157 punches for 25 percent.

The only bright note for Pacquiao on the punch-stats came in the jab department as he threw a total of 314 jabs and connected 43 times. Marquez threw his left jab only 201 times but found the target 42 times.

In the power-punches department, Marquez was also ahead, throwing 310 and landing 130 compared to Pacquiao who threw them 305 times and landed only 114 times.

“The people know that I won this. I connected more punches, more jabs and I thought I won,” said Marquez after the fight which ended in a split decision favoring the Filipino, now the new WBC super-featherweight champion.

“It was hell of a fight. And we don’t want to take anything away from Pacquiao. But we, and some of the media felt that Marquez won the fight,” said his promoter, Richard Schaeffer of Golden Boy.

“The fight is not about one round. It’s about 12 rounds,” said Jaime Quintana, a member of Team Marquez.

Are you thinking about amateur boxing? You do not know this is Professional boxing.
Professional boxing for w/o mask, win by round and solid stronger body
Amateur boxing for w/ mask and point punches even with soft punches included.

Pacquiao win the fight because of more power landed jab punches, he led by round especially he downed Marquez by 3rd round so Marquez gaves -1 deduction. Unlike regular punches who led by Marquez. It's like so clear pacquiao have many won by round than Marquez by very too close 114-113.

I'm very serious that Pacquiao have very lucky moment!. But Marquez have a great fight over Pacman!
 
Manny Pacquiao - Oscar De La Hoya In November?

Manny Pacquiao - Oscar De La Hoya In November?

22.03.08 - by James Slater: According to a recent article in the Philippines Daily Enquirer, in which Manny Pacquiao's business manager, Eric Pineda was giving an interview, Pac-Man will fight "The Golden Boy" himself, Oscar De La Hoya, this November. According to Pineda, Manny will box David Diaz up at lightweight, for Diaz' WBC 135 pound world title (as many expected) and then move up even further in weight so as to tackle De La Hoya..

This is incredible, almost unbelievable, news! Presumably, the November fight Pineda speaks of would be the "farewell" bout De La Hoya has spoken of having, thus bringing down the curtain on his great boxing career. If Oscar does indeed fight Pacquiao it will be one hell of a way to say goodbye. This is jumping the gun though. Indeed, there are so many questions regarding the taking place of a Pac-Man-De La Hoya fight it's crazy. Firstly, how on earth would a suitable weight be chosen? I mean, just how high can Pacquaio go, and how low could De La Hoya go to meet him? What if Diaz beats Pacquiao beforehand? Would Pac-Man still box Oscar? You see how many questions there are to this potential modern day "dream fight."

But a dream fight it would certainly be. Who wouldn't pay to see it!? Judging by Manny Pacquiao's fearless attitude, the Filipino dynamo would take the fight. Manny loves a challenge, and a fight with De La Hoya, one of the greatest fighters of the last 15 years or so, would certainly represent that. And how! But would Oscar take the fight? Risking losing to a much smaller man in the very last fight of his illustrious career would, perhaps, be a gamble "The Golden Boy" would opt not to roll with.

At this point, a Pac-Man Vs. De La Hoya clash is nothing more than a pipe dream for boxing fans. But should it actually happen (and stranger things certainly have in the sport of boxing) the tickets would without a doubt be absolutely red hot. All we can do is wait, and see how both men go in their next fight - with De La Hoya boxing Steve Forbes, and Pacquaio looking like he'll go ahead with the David Diaz affair - and then see if there is any official announcement.

One final comment on a Pacquaio-De La Hoya fight before finishing this news article, though; I wonder what Juan Manuel Marquez thinks of such talk?

:mad: :mad: :mad: VERY VERY RIDICULOUS!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

THIS IS CRAZY!!!
 
JonarSabilano said:
There have been reports that since Pacquiao has beaten all the good Mexican boxers in his weight class, his next fight will be against Zorro. :D

well he's not mexican, he's from cali
 
joel23 said:
:mad: :mad: :mad: VERY VERY RIDICULOUS!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

THIS IS CRAZY!!!
I agree. This fight won't happen unless De La Hoya needs the money worse than Rocky. De La Hoya has too much to risk in his reputation. He was a great fighter and he doesn't have anything to prove to Pacquiao. Pacquiao is at the top of the sport and De La Hoya is done. Enough said.
 
I think Pacquiao and Marquez should have a rematch in Manila after Pacquiao-Diaz...:)
 
Manny Pacquiao is now in GMA Network @ 17th floor for lunch celebration and interview w/ Chino Trinidad & many GMA reporters... After motorcade from Manila to Quezon City and end to GMA channel 7. I hope Manny won't going up to increase weight division and until only Super Featherweight division. I hope the next mission for Pacman will get the other World Champion belt from WBA, WBO or IBF.
 
God!!! I'm so afraid of Diaz fight because Manny rise up weight division to 135lbs and Diaz is bigger and taller than Manny. Maybe he might will become the next Elorde. Elorde was superfeatherweight then he rised up to lightweight division and lost to Ortiz in lightweight championship.
 
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