Lnb 07/08

[mvblair2]

Amazing... he is just 18 years old. and is averaging 11.3 ppg 2.2 apg and 1.2 rpg in 25.9 mpg, right now I don't remember another 18 yearolder playing like that in the recent years.

I can't remember any 18 or 19 year olds with such numbers in LNB since Manu Ginóbili, Nocioni, Scola or Jasen...

It looks like we've another star on the rise in Machuca.

So, here is the question: did even Manu and Scola get those kinds of numbers when they were 18?

 

[Jokinen2]

Ya Ya Dia played at the University of Georgetown, the great "farm of centers," which produced NBA centers like Patrick Ewing, Dikembe Mutombo, Michael Sweetney, Othella Harrington, Alonzo Mourning and Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje. Unfortunately, Ya Ya Dia never played got to the level of those other players, but he is nevertheless very talented. He's a bigtime shot-blocker and rebounder, just like those other Georgetown players.

Ya Ya Dia has played in all over the world, most recently in Mexico. He's also played in Turkey, Israel, Uruguay, Italy, Jordan, Australia, the US, and Russia. This is actually his third time in Argentina: in '98 he played for Regatas San Nicolas, and in '01 he played for Quilmes Mar del Plata.

Thanks for the info, Matt.

 

[Jokinen2]

It looks like we've another star on the rise in Machuca.

So, here is the question: did even Manu and Scola get those kinds of numbers when they were 18?

I don't believe they did. If I'm not wrong Manu averaged around 20 ppg when he was 20 years old, but not at 18, acctually I don't believe he got much playing time at 18 and about Scola, he left to Europe at 17 years old, I'm not sure about Nocioni or Herrmann. I'll try to get more data, since this is a interesting question.
Anyway it was a lot harder to get playing time for a kid back then, 10 years ago, than now so offcourse we are not saying that Machuca will be as good as Manu, but he certainly could develop into a very good player, he is very promising

 

[mvblair2]

Thanks for the info, Matt.

He's also a big player on Senegal's national team, but he didn't play in the most recent African Championships.

Anyway it was a lot harder to get playing time for a kid back then, 10 years ago, than now so offcourse we are not saying that Machuca will be as good as Manu, but he certainly could develop into a very good player, he is very promising

If he's 18-years old and averaging 12 points in the LNB, he must be good. Outside of the NBA, the LNB and BSN are the two best leagues in the Americas, so he's playing against some very tough competition.

(If Mexico had just one major league, I would say they're in that category, but Mexican talent is dilluted in five different leagues, none of which are great).

 

[alermac2]

Friday games:

Central 65
SG Kwan Johnson 18 pts - 3/4 3P - 7 rebs
Libertad 60
C Robert Battle 14 pts - 8 rebs
SG Josh Pittman 14 pts

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Boca 102
PF Leo Gutiérrez 21 pts - 11 rebs
SG Ryan Carroll 21 pts - 5 rebs
PG Luis Cequeira 21 pts
Gimnasia 109
SG Zach Ingles 30 pts - 8/9 3P
PG Sebastián Festa 26 pts - 6/10 3P - 5 rebs - 4 assists
SF Diego Prego 14 pts - 6 rebs - 4 assists

Gimnasia set a new record for threes in a game: they scored 21.

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Regatas 79
SF Diego Cavaco 20 pts - 6/11 3P - 6 rebs
PF Chuckie Robinson 15 pts - 7 rebs
Atenas 60
SF Erron Maxey 19 pts - 10 rebs

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Estudiantes 84
SG Pablo Gil 18 pts
PF Jamaal Levy 16 pts - 7/8 2P - 6 rebs
Peñarol 86
PF Jasper Johnson 28 pts - 6 rebs
C Román González 12 pts - 10 rebs

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Sionista 82
SG Todd Williams 19 pts - 5 rebs
PF Mike Robinson 15 pts - 3 rebs
Quimsa 94
SG Julio Mázzaro 21 pts
PF William McFarlan 15 pts - 10 rebs
C Alejandro Reinick 14 pts - 6/8 2P - 11 rebs

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Belgrano 76
SF Jorge Sánchez 18 pts - 8/12 FG - 9 rebs
PF Marcus Fleming 13 pts - 10 rebs
Ben Hur 73
SF Eduardo Calvelli 21 pts - 5 rebs

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Independiente 98
PF Byron Johnson 27 pts - 10/14 2P - 8 rebs
SF Nicolás Romano 25 pts - 7/8 2P - 11/12 1P - 4 rebs
SF Martín Melo 20 pts - 7/11 FG - 5 rebs - 4 assists
Obras 102
SF Chris Jefferies 36 pts - 7/8 3P - 9/10 1P
PF Lázaro Borrell 17 pts - 7/11 FG - 4 rebs

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Quilmes 98
SF Antwon Hall 21 pts - 4 assists
PG Nicolás Aguirre 17 pts - 4/5 FG
SG Eduardo Villares 18 pts
El Nacional 93
SF William Sanders 15 pts - 6 rebs
SG Federico Ferrini 14 pts - 6 rebs
PF Pablo Barrios 14 pts - 5 rebs

 

[alermac2]

I don't believe they did. If I'm not wrong Manu averaged around 20 ppg when he was 20 years old, but not at 18, acctually I don't believe he got much playing time at 18 and about Scola, he left to Europe at 17 years old, I'm not sure about Nocioni or Herrmann. I'll try to get more data, since this is a interesting question.

At 18, Manu was averaging 7 ppg as a sixth man for Andino de La Rioja (95/96). It was a pretty powerful team that season, reaching semifinals. At 19 he jumped to 17 ppg in Estudiantes.

Nocioni was the sixth man of the year in 98/99 at 19, playing for Independiente and starring in the Finals his team lost 4-3.

At 18, Herrmann played about 10 mpg and scored 3 ppg, but at 19 he was already scoring 13 ppg for Olimpia.

And Scola at 17 was averaging 10 ppg for Ferro in 97/98. Then he left for Spain.

 

[alermac2]

Sunday's games:

Independiente 94
PF Byron Johnson 29 pts - 15 rebs - 4 assists - 4 steals
SF Nicolás Romano 26 pts - 8 rebs
Peñarol 87
C Román González 35 pts - 9 rebs

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Quilmes 84
PF Antonio Reynolds-Dean 20 pts - 10 rebs - 6 assists
SG Eduardo Villares 20 pts - 6/8 3P - 5 assists
Gimnasia 65
PF Ariel Eslava 18 pts - 12 rebs
SF Diego Prego 18 pts - 7/7 2P - 4 rebs

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Sionista 78
PF Michael Robinson 20 pts
C Alejandro Burgos 15 pts - 5 rebs
Atenas 76
PG Bruno Lábaque 23 pts - 4/8 3P - 5 rebs

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Regatas 82
SF Diego Cavaco 21 pts - 7 rebs
PG Javier Martínez 21 pts - 6 rebs - 6 assists
Quimsa 79
SG Julio Mázzaro 25 pts - 5 rebs - 3 steals
SF Cleotis Brown 25 pts - 3 rebs - 3 assists
PF William McFarlan 10 pts - 12 rebs - 4 assists - 4 blocks

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Belgrano 62
SG Carlos Colla 14 pts - 6 steals
PF Marcus Fleming 12 pts - 6 rebs
Libertad 72
C Robert Battle 16 pts - 7/9 FG - 17 rebs
PG Sebastián Ginóbili 17 pts - 5/9 3P - 4 assists
SG Pablo Moldú 17 pts - 7/11 FG - 5 assists

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Central 86
SG Kwan Johnson 18 pts - 3 rebs
PF Robert Brown 17 pts - 7 rebs
SF Juan Cangelosi 17 pts - 4 rebs - 3 steals
PG Rafael Costa 15 pts - 7 assists
Ben Hur 84
SF Eduardo Calvelli 25 pts - 9/13 FG - 6 rebs
C Walter Storani 16 pts - 7 rebs
SF Khayri Battle 19 pts - 4 rebs

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Estudiantes 87
SG Pablo Gil 25 pts - 10 rebs - 3 steals
SG José Muruaga 19 pts
PF Jamaal Levy 15 pts - 7 rebs
Obras 98
SF Chris Jeffries 32 pts - 12/15 FG - 9 rebs
PF Lázaro Borrell 13 pts - 10 rebs

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Boca 79
PF Leo Gutiérrez 27 pts - 6/10 3P - 9 rebs
El Nacional 67
SG Patricio Rodríguez 14 pts - 7 rebs
C Djibril Kante 12 pts - 9 rebs

 

[mvblair2]

Belgrano 62
SG Carlos Colla 14 pts - 6 steals
PF Marcus Fleming 12 pts - 6 rebs
Libertad 72
C Robert Battle 16 pts - 7/9 FG - 17 rebs
PG Sebastián Ginóbili 17 pts - 5/9 3P - 4 assists
SG Pablo Moldú 17 pts - 7/11 FG - 5 assists

Did Ya Ya Dia play?

Man, Ben Hur can't buy a victory. I'm glad to see Boca playing well with a mostly Argentine squad. It's good that Leo Guitierrez is still putting up numbers. I'm a big fan of his.

 

[Jokinen2]

At 18, Manu was averaging 7 ppg as a sixth man for Andino de La Rioja (95/96). It was a pretty powerful team that season, reaching semifinals. At 19 he jumped to 17 ppg in Estudiantes.

Nocioni was the sixth man of the year in 98/99 at 19, playing for Independiente and starring in the Finals his team lost 4-3.

At 18, Herrmann played about 10 mpg and scored 3 ppg, but at 19 he was already scoring 13 ppg for Olimpia.

And Scola at 17 was averaging 10 ppg for Ferro in 97/98. Then he left for Spain.

Thanks for the info!!, you saved me some time

 

[alermac2]

Did Ya Ya Dia play?

Man, Ben Hur can't buy a victory. I'm glad to see Boca playing well with a mostly Argentine squad. It's good that Leo Guitierrez is still putting up numbers. I'm a big fan of his.

Ya Ya Dia started at center scored 8 points.

And speaking of Leo Gutiérrez, on Wednesday he scored 7/11 threes in Boca's 95-74 win over Obras.

But the biggest game was Quilmes win over Peñarol, 72-70 with big performances by Nicolás Aguirre (again) and Antonio Reynolds-Dean, who scored the winning two.

Obras Sanitarias: Fernando Titarelli 7, Gabriel Cocha (x) 10, Christopher Jeffries 20, Lázaro Borrell 19, Tyler Field 6 (fi); Fernando Calvi 6, Daniel Chaher 0, Emilio Olsson 2, Cristian Cortés 0, Sergio Ravina 4, Emanuel Arévalo 0.
Boca Juniors: Luis Cequeira 12, Gustavo Oroná 12, Ryan Carroll 6, Leonardo Gutiérrez 25, Alejandro Alloatti 9 (fi); Fernando Funes 8, Juan Sartorelli 14, Leonel Schattmann 5, Federico Aguerre 4, Julián Aprea 0, Juan Orellano 0.

Peñarol: Sebastián Rodríguez 11, Byron Wilson 9, Marcos Mata (x) 2, Alejandro Diez 9, Román González 28 (fi); Lucas Picarelli 1, Jervaughn Scales 2, Cedric Moodie 8, Jason Osborne 0.
Quilmes: Hernando Salles 11, Eduardo Villares 9, Antown Hall 6, Antonio Reynolds 17, Ezequiel Dentis 0 (fi); Diego Romero 9, Nicolás Aguirre 15, Maximiliano Maciel 5, Selem Safar 0.

El Nacional also beat Gimnasia 86-68.

El Nacional: Mariano Castets 11, Patricio Rodríguez 11, Federico Ferrini 8, Djibril Kanté 23, Cristian Amicucci 12 (fi); Pablo Barrios 5, William Sanders 9, Sebastián Farías 4, Fabián Sahdi 3, Lucas Pérez 0.
Gimnasia: Sebastián Festa 5, Zachary Ingles 11, Facundo Venturini 0, Diego Prego 19, Anthony Knox 12 (fi); Matías Fioretti 5, Ariel Eslava 9, Bruno Ingratta (x) 4, David Oviedo 0, José Alessio 0, Federico Mansilla 3.

I had too much work these days XD

The big news fot tonight's games is that Atenas center Diego Osella will become the first ever player to appear in 900 LNB games; he's 38 and still proving his quality after 20 seasons, 18 of those playing for Atenas.

 

[alermac2]

Friday's games:

Quilmes 97
SG Eduardo Villares 22 pts - 4/7 3P - 6 rebs
PF Antonio Reynolds-Dean 19 pts - 8 rebs - 7 assists
PG Hernando Salles 18 pts - 5 rebs - 4 assists
Boca 88
PF Leo Gutiérrez 20 pts - 6 rebs - 4 assists
SG Ryan Carroll 19 pts - 10 rebs
PG Luis Cequeira 14 pts - 9 assists

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Obras 83
PF Fernando Calvi 21 pts - 6 rebs
SF Chris Jefferies 18 pts - 7 rebs
PF Lázaro Borrell 15 pts - 9 rebs
Peñarol 71
C Román González 18 pts - 9 rebs

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Ben Hur 62
C Walter Storani 15 pts - 14 rebs
PF Durelle Brown 13 pts - 8 rebs
Libertad 63
C Robert Battle 25 pts - 8 rebs

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Quimsa 83
PF William McFarlan 22 pts - 7/10 FG - 7 rebs - 3 assists - 3 steals
SF Cleotis Brown 16 pts - 4 assists - 3 steals
Atenas 89
SF Cristian Romero 26 pts - 10/13 FG - 10 rebs
SG Sebastián Acosta 18 pts

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Sionista 92
C Alejandro Zilli 26 pts - 9 rebs - 7 assists - 2 blocks
PF Mike Robinson 15 pts - 6/9 FG
PG Juan Pablo Cantero 14 pts - 5 assists
SG Daniel Hure 14 pts - 6/8 FG
Regatas 83
PF Chuckie Robinson 25 pts - 8/11 2P - 7 rebs
SF Ramzee Stanton 18 pts - 8/11 2P - 5 rebs
SF Diego Cavaco 15 pts

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Belgrano 87
SF Leandro Masieri 30 pts - 9/12 3P
PF Marcus Fleming 16 pts - 5/7 2P - 5 rebs
C Cheik Ya Ya Dia 14 pts - 6/8 2P - 6 rebs
PG Cristian Cadillac 9 pts - 14 assists
Central 82
SG Kwan Johnson 18 pts - 4/6 3P
SF Juan Cangelosi 16 pts - 4 rebs

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Independiente 81
PF Byron Johnson 23 pts - 9/13 2P - 7 rebs - 4 steals
SF Esteban de la Fuente 18 pts - 6/8 3P - 3 steals
Estudiantes 83
SG Pablo Gil 36 pts - 6/10 3P
PF Jamaal Levy 18 pts - 7/9 FG - 7 rebs - 6 steals

STANDINGS SOUTH:
23 Quilmes (10-3)*
22 Boca (9-4)*
21 Obras (8-5)*
19 Independiente (6-7)
19 El Nacional (6-7)
18 Estudiantes (5-8)
17 Peñarol (6-7; two points punishment)
15 Gimnasia (2-11)

NORTH:
24 Libertad (11-2)*
21 Sionista (8-5)
21 Regatas (8-5)
20 Quimsa (7-6)
20 Central (7-6)
18 Atenas (5-8)
16 Ben Hur (3-10)
16 Belgrano (3-10)

*: qualified for midseason Super 8 tournament. Other teams will be decided on sunday's games.

 

[alermac2]

Atenas 96
SG Sebastián Acosta 17 pts - 4/8 3P
PG Bruno Lábaque 16 pts - 6/7 2P - 5 assists
SF Cristian Romero 16 pts - 9 rebs
Quimsa 78
SF Cleotis Brown 18 pts - 4/7 3P - 7 rebs
PF William McFarlan 16 pts - 6 rebs

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Peñarol 100
C Román González 32 pts - 14/17 2P - 11 rebs
PG Pablo Rodríguez 23 pts - 8 assists
Obras 84
SF Chris Jeffries 21 pts
PF Fernando Calvi 17 pts - 6 rebs
SG Gabriel Cocha 19 pts - 6/9 FG

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Boca 85
PF Leo Gutiérrez 25 pts - 5/9 3P - 9 rebs - 3 assists
SG Fernando Funes 15 pts - 5/7 2P
C Quentin Smith 7 pts - 13 rebs
Quilmes 76
SG Antwon Hall 25 pts
C Ezequiel Dentis 11 pts - 5/7 2P - 9 rebs

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Regatas 70
PG Javier Martínez 10 pts - 7 rebs - 7 assists
Sionista 62
C Alejandro Burgos 14 pts - 9 rebs - 3 blocks

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Central 67
SF Juan Cangelosi 17 pts - 4 rebs
PG Rafa Costa 16 pts - 4/8 3P - 7 rebs
PF Robert Brown 15 pts - 7 rebs
Belgrano 61
PF Marcus Fleming 23 pts - 13 rebs - 4 assists

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Libertad 90
SF Josh Pittman 21 pts - 3/4 3P - 6 rebs
SG Marcos Saglietti 17 pts - 5/7 FG - 4 rebs - 6 assists
PF Andrés Pelussi 13 pts - 6/9 FG - 13 rebs
Ben Hur 68
PF Durelle Brown 23 pts - 9/12 2P - 8 rebs

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Estudiantes 94
PF Jamaal Levy 23 pts - 10/12 FG - 10 rebs
SG José Muruaga 18 pts - 4/7 3P
SG Pablo Gil 16 pts - 5/8 FG
Independiente 103
PF Byron Johnson 34 pts - 10 rebs
SG Juan Pablo Sánchez 27 pts - 7/12 3P

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Gimnasia 68
SF Matías Fioretti 14 pts - 5 rebs
SF Diego Prego 14 pts
EL Nacional 73
PG Mariano Castets 18 pts - 8/11 FG
C Djibril Kante 13 pts - 11/12 1P - 7 rebs

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NORTH:

26 Libertad (12-2)*
23 Regatas (9-5)*
22 Sionista (8-6)*
22 Central (8-6)*
21 Quimsa (7-7)
20 Atenas (6-8)
17 Ben Hur (3-11)
17 Belgrano (3-11)

SOUTH:

24 Boca (10-4)*
24 Quilmes (10-4)*
22 Obras (8-6)*
21 El Nacional (7-7)
21 Independiente (7-7)
19 Peñarol (7-7, 2 points punishment)
19 Estudiantes (5-9)
16 Gimnasia (2-12)

*: teams qualified for Super 8. Another team to be invited.

 

[Jokinen2]

The big news fot tonight's games is that Atenas center Diego Osella will become the first ever player to appear in 900 LNB games; he's 38 and still proving his quality after 20 seasons, 18 of those playing for Atenas.

More Info on Diego Marcelo Osella:


Debut in Liga Nacional: 26/03/1988 , Atenas vs. Gimnasia (P)

Won with Atenas 5 the National Leagues: 1988, 1990, 1991/92, 1997/1998 and 1998/1999

2 SouthAmerican Clubs Championships 1993 and 1994.

1 Panamerican Club Championship 1996

3 SouthAmerican Leagues:1997, 1998 and 2004

2 Atenas International Tournament 1998 and 1999


Played with the Argentinian NT:

1 South American Championship for juniors 1988
3 South American Champioships 1989, 1991 and 1997
5 Tournaments of Americas 1989, 1992, 1993, 1995 and 1997.
3 World Cups: 1990, 1994 and 1998.
2 Panamerican games: 1991 and 1995
2 Goodwill games: 1994 and 1998.
1 Olympic games 1996.


Played with Atenas:
6 South American Championships 1988, 1989, 1991, 1993, 1994 and 1995.
4 Panamericans:1993, 1994, 1996 and 1997.
4 South American Leagues 1997,1998, 2004 and 2005.
1 McDonalds Open at París, France. on Octubre of 1997
2 Atenas International Tournament 1998 and 1999.

Also participated in 12 Argentinian All Star Games: 1989, 1990, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2005, 2006 and 2007.

Also played for Banco de Córdoba (Argentina), Alicante (Spain) Estudiantes de Olavarría (Argentina) and Varese (Italy).

JUST IMPRESSIVE

 

[alermac2]

A few news:

-Peñarol is the team invited to Super 8. Obvious choice, since it will be the host team and has maybe the best roster.

-Central released PF Robert Brown due to indiscipline (he had been released by Quimsa for that same motive). Replaced him with PF Casey Cook, who played in Mexico and Luxembourg.

-Estudiantes released PG Lawrence Wallace, replaced him with C Robert Bryant who played in Portugal and Turkey.

Wednesday game, inaugural for the second phase:

Quimsa 87
SF Cleotis Brown 20 pts - 7 rebs
PF Will McFarlan 18 pts - 4 rebs
C Alejandro Reinick 11 pts - 10 rebs
Libertad 82
C Robert Battle 22 pts - 17 rebs
SF Josh Pittman 21 pts - 4 rebs
PG Sebastián Ginóbili 16 pts - 3 as

 

[alermac2]

Friday's:

Boca 95
PG Luis Cequeira 25 pts - 7 rebs - 4 assists
PF Leo Gutiérrez 18 pts - 8 rebs - 4 assists
Sionista 90
PF Mike Robinson 27 pts - 5/7 3P

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Quilmes 85
SF Maxi Maciel 16 pts
PF Antonio Reynolds 9 pts - 8 rebs - 8 assists
Regatas 87
PG Javier Martínez 22 pts - 9 assists
PF Chuckie Robinson 19 pts - 5 rebs - 4 assists
SF Diego Cavaco 18 pts - 6/8 3P

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Estudiantes 103
PG Pedro Franco 23 pts - 5 rebs
SG Pablo Gil 22 pts - 6 rebs
PF Jamaal Levy 19 pts - 6 rebs
Peñarol 109
SF Byron Wilson 30 pts - 6/7 3P - 10/10 1P
C Román González 23 pts - 10 rebs

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Independiente 78
PF Byron Johnson 23 pts - 7 rebs
Obras 93
PF Lázaro Borrell 18 pts - 8 rebs
SF Chris Jeffries 16 pts - 4 rebs - 4 assists

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Atenas 84
PG Bruno Lábaque 27 pts - 5 assists
SF Leandro Palladino 13 pts - 7 rebs
Ben Hur 79
PF Durelle Brown 26 pts - 5 rebs
C Walter Storani 15 pts - 11 rebs
SF Khayri Battle 17 pts - 7 rebs - 6 assists

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Belgrano 81
PF Marcus Fleming 22 pts - 5 rebs
SG Carlos Colla 22 pts
SF Leandro Masieri 18 pts - 6/9 3P - 4 rebs
El Nacional 75
SF Jamaal Williams 18 pts
SF Sebastián Farías 14 pts - 6/8 FG

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Central 95
PF Sebastián Cabello 18 pts - 6 rebs
C Fernando Martina 18 pts - 8 rebs
Gimnasia 73
SF Diego Prego 22 pts - 5 rebs - 4 assists
PG Diego Alba 18 pts - 8/11 FG

STANDINGS:

14 Boca
14 Libertad
13,5 Regatas
13 Central
13 Obras
13 Quilmes
12,5 Quimsa
12 Sionista
12 Atenas
11,5 Peñarol
11,5 Independiente
11,5 El Nacional
10,5 Estudiantes
10,5 Belgrano
9,5 Ben Hur
9 Gimnasia

 

[mvblair2]

More Info on Diego Marcelo Osella:

.....

JUST IMPRESSIVE

Wow, this Diego Marcelo Osella seems like one heckuva player!! Does anybody know what his number of total games played in Europe and Argentina is?

 

[alermac2]

Giving back life to this thread:

Osella has 16 ACB games, 23 Lega games and over 900 LNB games, plus NT games and international club games with Atenas.

Updated standings for the end of the year:

27 Libertad
24,5 Regatas
24 Central
23,5 Peñarol
23,5 El Nacional
23 Boca (one game postponed, will jump to at least 24)
23 Quilmes
23 Atenas
23 Sionista
22,5 Quimsa
22 Obras
20,5 Estudiantes
20,5 Independiente
19 Gimnasia
18,5 Ben Hur
18,5 Belgrano

Many roster news:

-Libertad G/F Josh Pittman got a 3-year suspension on doping; he was replaced by Ryan Carroll, who got released by Boca along with C Quentin Smith and replaced by SF Jamal Robinson and PF Jarred Stephens.

-Jeff Aubry left Independiente, because of his previous contract in Puerto Rico.

-Peñarol signed SG Quincy Wadley to replace Cedric Moodie.

-Estudiantes signed PF Leon Smith, a former Spurs draft pick.

 

[mvblair2]

-Libertad G/F Josh Pittman got a 3-year suspension on doping;

Wow, it'll be weird to imagine the LNB without Pittman. He's been playing very well since 2000 or so. What drug was he doping?

 

[alermac2]

Wow, it'll be weird to imagine the LNB without Pittman. He's been playing very well since 2000 or so. What drug was he doping?

Marijuana, and his second suspension. He did 3 months in 2005, when playing for Atenas.

Pittman had been playing every year in Argentina since 1998, always scoring plenty.

 

[alermac2]

First games of 2008:

Libertad 78
PG Ginóbili 26 pts - 7/10 3P
C Battle 15 pts - 16 rebs
Sionista 58
PG Cantero 14 pts - 5/6 FG
Debut of SF Maurice Riddick (7 pts)
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Boca 87
PF Gutiérrez 22 pts - 8 rebs - 4 steals
SG Oroná 17 pts - 4 steals
PG Cequeira 16 pts
debuts of C Ya Ya Dia (6 pts) and SF Jamal Robinson (11 pts)
Estudiantes 81
SG Pablo Gil 22 pts - 4/7 3P - 5 assists
SG José Muruaga 19 pts
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Ben Hur 74
PF Durelle Brown 22 pts - 4/6 3P
debut of coach Luis Oroño
Regatas 69
PG Martínez 17 pts
SF Cavaco 17 pts
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Belgrano 87
SG Colla 16 pts - 11/12 1P
C Ferrero 16 pts - 6/6 FG - 4 rebs
debut of SF Lamont Roland (6 pts)
Atenas 83
SG Acosta 23 pts
SF Romero 15 pts - 5 rebs
debuts of SF Brandon Mason (15 pts) and C James Moore (2 pts)
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Quilmes 79
PF Romero 21 pts - 8/9 FG - 5 rebs
SF Hall 20 pts
PF Reynolds 10 pts - 18 rebs
Independiente 76
SF Melo 25 pts
PF Johnson 15 pts - 9 rebs
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El Nacional 101
PF Amicucci 22 pts - 10/13 2P - 5 rebs
C Kante 19 pts - 8/11 2P - 6 rebs
SG Rodríguez 18 pts - 4/8 3P
PG Castets 17 pts - 7/8 FG
debut of SF Byron Wilson (7 pts) and PF Jamaal Williams (6 pts)
Obras 85
SF Chaher 22 pts - 8/12 FG
SF Jeffries 19 pts - 5 rebs - 6 steals
PF Borrell 15 pts - 5 rebs

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Gimnasia 86
Peñarol 80