Lebanon has 0% chance of WildCard

[karim2]

Personally I wish they would just do something closer to Olympic wild card model.

Just take the top two teams from each region that missed out, and have them fight for the last four spots in a tournament or round robin.

Nigeria
Cameroon
Lebanon
Chinese Taipei
Dominican Republic
Uruguay
Europe 7
Europe 8

(or Europe 8 and 9 depending on how Turkey does)

No room to complain about favoritism, bribes, or unfair system. Just settle it on the court.

I really think they should do this , it looks so much easier than the pre olympic tournament in 2008 where Leb faced Greece and than Brazil and 4 out of these 8 teams will qualify .......and this way no1 will complain on what is fair and what is not ..we will have the best of the best in the world cup

 

[bsgermany2]

Sure this would be a fair solution - but when do you want to squeeze in a big tournament like that in an already tight schedule?

 

[Franz2]

Yeah, there's no way they would be able to have a qualifying tournament like that due to scheduling.

What they should do is start all the regional tournaments early like in July and then have the unqualified teams play in September. It makes everything more convenient.

Personally I wish they would just do something closer to Olympic wild card model.

Just take the top two teams from each region that missed out, and have them fight for the last four spots in a tournament or round robin.

Nigeria
Cameroon
Lebanon
Chinese Taipei
Dominican Republic
Uruguay
Europe 7
Europe 8

(or Europe 8 and 9 depending on how Turkey does)

No room to complain about favoritism, bribes, or unfair system. Just settle it on the court.

I don't think Africa should have two reps since it's the weakest zone. They would basically take away one spot from a deserving team in Europe. It wouldn't be fair.

There should be three from Europe, two from Americas, two from Asia, and one from Africa. Of course, all teams would be gathered based on the final standings of the regional tournaments. That would prevent a team like Nigeria from joining even though they're ranked higher than Cameroon.

Here's an example

Germany
Russia
Slovenia
Dominican Republic
Uruguay
Lebanon
Chinese Taipei
Cameroon

 

[Dtown2]

Why is Africa considered the weakest zone when aside from China they've out performed Asia in world tournaments? Hell last WC Nigeria and Angola both finished higher than a Yao Ming led China. Finishing 10th and 14th to China's 15th.

 

[karim2]

africa this year is weaker than asia if we watched both tournaments and i think oceania would be the weakest with 2 out of 2 teams qualifying ....the top 4 teams in asia this year r all world level teams and deserve to be at the WC ...Korea and Taiwan are also very good teams ...so when it comes to wildcard teams if 3 europeans were to be picked the last card should be between leb and DR .......leb should be the favorites here

 

[bsgermany2]

The top 4 in Asia are all world level?? I must have watched a different Asian Champs tournament than you did! It's understanding that you are so heavily trying to talk Lebanon into the World Champs in Turkey - but based on what?
The level of performance being seen in the Asian Champs could hardly be considered world class.
Calling the Oceanic zone the weakest almost doesn't even deserve a comment. Of course it's the smallest, and although I would 100% agree that a merger with the asian region should quickly take place, Oceanics two (only) top teams are certainly strong enough to both finish on top of the Asian zone - so calling them the weakest is quite funny.

 

[Lewis3]

africa this year is weaker than asia if we watched both tournaments and i think oceania would be the weakest with 2 out of 2 teams qualifying ....the top 4 teams in asia this year r all world level teams and deserve to be at the WC ...Korea and Taiwan are also very good teams ...so when it comes to wildcard teams if 3 europeans were to be picked the last card should be between leb and DR .......leb should be the favorites here

Asia's certainly the weakest zone. and by they Way Lebanon played in a VERY weak Asian Championship, they don't deserve a wild card.

At least Nigeria played well for most of the African Tournament

 

[daniab2]

Asia's certainly the weakest zone. and by they Way Lebanon played in a VERY weak Asian Championship, they don't deserve a wild card.

At least Nigeria played well for most of the African Tournament

Asia is the weakest zone ? well you should watch next time the African tournament,it sucks big time!
Only Angola would be taking apart but Tunisia gimme a break?!

 

[bsgermany2]

I have only watched a fiew games of the African qualifyer, but most of the Asian tournament as well as the American one and I still believe, that it shouldn't be decided between Africa and Asia and instead go to America, where I have seen better basketball than in Asia. a country like Dom. Rep. may not have much of a great history, but a team that would be a tough cookie for any Asian team to swallow with guys like Villanueva, Horford or Garcia on board.

 

[Lewis3]

Asia is the weakest zone ? well you should watch next time the African tournament,it sucks big time!
Only Angola would be taking apart but Tunisia gimme a break?!

when did I say I didn't watched it I watched both tournies

that's exactly why I'm saying that Africa is stronger, based on what I saw

I'm Sure Mali, Nigeria, Angola, Senegal, Tunisia, and Cameroon would do fairly well if they competed in Asia


adn Aside from that, Other than china, Iran, Lebanon, and Jordan, I don't see any other Asina team with at least a minimum chance against an Americas NT.

 

[cardenales2]

Lebanon is better than Venezuela but Dominicans are better than Lebanon.
Uruguay is better than Lebanon to

 

[karim2]

I have only watched a fiew games of the African qualifyer, but most of the Asian tournament as well as the American one and I still believe, that it shouldn't be decided between Africa and Asia and instead go to America, where I have seen better basketball than in Asia. a country like Dom. Rep. may not have much of a great history, but a team that would be a tough cookie for any Asian team to swallow with guys like Villanueva, Horford or Garcia on board.

americas already has 5 teams and asia 3 i think it would be more fair to be 5 and 4 , than 6 and 3 ...in the end americas is not europe ....and i dont get how DR got 12 points by placing 5th and are now 26th whereas Leb lost 8 points for placing 4th ....also uruguay gained only 2 points for placing 6th ...these fiba rankings are unexplainable .......

 

[Mindozas6]

americas already has 5 teams and asia 3 i think it would be more fair to be 5 and 4 , than 6 and 3 ...in the end americas is not europe ....and i dont get how DR got 12 points by placing 5th and are now 26th whereas Leb lost 8 points for placing 4th ....also uruguay gained only 2 points for placing 6th ...these fiba rankings are unexplainable .......

1. If Americas 6th is better than Asia's 4th, so IMO it's more fair to add the first team here.

2. I don't understand why you care so much about that useless ranking, which means totally nothing. But if you want to count on it, so you can look how each continent's championship worths there. And it shows FIBA Americas 0.8 and FIBA Asia 0.3, almost 3 times more, so how much teams each one should have? 4 vs 5 (incuding 2 teams from the best 3 in the world) or 3 vs 6?
But as I said, this ranking means nothing, so there's no point to discuss about it.

P.S. I understand how much you guys want that Lebanon would get wildcard and looking for a ways to make your team look better, but it's pointless, cause we won't have any influence to FIBA's decision, so it's better sit and wait for it. Personally, I won't mind if Lebanon will get wildcard, cause I like the passion you have about bball and it's No.1 sports in your country, just like in Lithuania

 

[cardenales2]

I think Lebanon has a big chance for Wild Card. Basketball is in the rise in Lebanon plus they have been part of the last two World Cups in USA and Japan. Lebanon also took part of the Olympic world qualifier played in Athens last year. So, I think this are enough reason for Lebanon to be part of the World Cup in Turkey next year. The team, it has talented players as Rony Fahed, Fadi Al Khatif, Matt Freije, Jackson Vroman and Brian Beschara to make the team competitive in the World Cup.

 

[kerdito2]

It's too early to know what would happen in Europe, as for the comparaision well of course Dominicans are better than Lebanon and any other Asia or African Team.

 

[icebreaker2]

I think Lebanon has a chance in the Wildcard. Let's just wait and see what this team is made of.

 

[alermac2]

Personally I wish they would just do something closer to Olympic wild card model.

Just take the top two teams from each region that missed out, and have them fight for the last four spots in a tournament or round robin.

Nigeria
Cameroon
Lebanon
Chinese Taipei
Dominican Republic
Uruguay
Europe 7
Europe 8

(or Europe 8 and 9 depending on how Turkey does)

No room to complain about favoritism, bribes, or unfair system. Just settle it on the court.

I like this idea, perhaps with 6 teams instead of 8. It wouldn't take longer than a week to play this tournament, and playing it a couple of weeks before the World Championship might be appropiate.

 

[samer_1_22]

For wildcards I guess to be fair:

Asia: should have one Lebanon.. his level is okay.. becomes 4 as in 2006
Africa: I don' t think, none of the not qualified teams convinced me
America: DR has a chance but depends if Fiba gives 2 or three to europe
Europe: has the greatest chances, but not sure they can get 2 or three wildcards..I guess they will get two because Two coz Turkey is the host

After all, we all the french people love Lebanon.. It was a one of our favorite colonies before,,they deserve it

 

[Mojado2]

For wildcards I guess to be fair:

After all, we all the french people love Lebanon.. It was a one of our favorite colonies before,,they deserve it

That's a very good reason you are giving here

Mindozas said it right: I supported Lebanon in the Asia's champs but with all that noise you Lebanese guys are making (including bombing FIBA with a million mails), the sympathy is winding down, even if you are having good food(another great reason...) and the women look hot (another one).
Stop talking and let your politicians in the federation and the country do the work as your comparisons to other teams in other zones lack sometimes a lot of knowledge or facts and stop preaching this semi-final-ref-thing down every time someone asks you for a good reason why Lebanon is in.There have been a lot of misjudgments in other FIBA zones too (I talked to some teams from Africa and I was in the Americas to attend it live).
So, with that said, I think Lebanon will be having a good chance for a wild card this year.

 

[nojodas472]

What is the chance for DR to get a wild card after first round of eurobasket?

What is the chance for DR to get a wild card after first round of eurobasket?

Seeing which some of the qualifying teamns might be in Europe after the first round, can anyone make an argument as to why europe might only recieve 2 or 3 spots for the wild cards? I think things are looking well for DR right now since the only team out right now that might be considered for a wild card is Britain even though they were horrible so I wouldn't invite them.

For the guy of Lebanon complaining how DR went up more spot than Lebanon even though they placed 5th and not 4th, just look at who they played body. They faced #1 Argentina, #10 PR, #15 Brazil and so on and you want to compare the weak teams you guys played to these teams. Give me a break but it is not the same thing.