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Kai Sotto Thread

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magic_chiongson said:
my main takeaway from this is that his main advantage over kai on their 1st year in the nbl is that he played for the top nbl team and was an nbl champion, probably being able to showcase himself more in the playoffs vs kai's bottom-3 team

this actually makes sense, this is how guys like matthew delavedova & patrick mccaw were able to continue their nba careers
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To add a little more in depth analysis on the difference between Makur and Kai's path .

When Makur left the US college he was a year older than when Kai left Ignite , that extra year showcased to NBA scouts his gsme enough to be invited to NBA combine in 2021 , (Unlike Kai who was not invited which showed he hasn't showed anything in Ignite for teams to be interested), the higher level of NBA interest is further confirmed when the NBL front office invites Makur as a next star a recognition thst he is a serious prospect. While Kai's camp requested the same same Next star status deal he was rejected by NBL front office based on assessment he was not a serious NBA prospect these are all verifiable by people you talk to in the industry, I've spoken directly with GMs of 2 NBL clubs (1 signed Kai).

So essentially both Kai and Makur had 1 finall year in 2021 as both were automatically eligible. Main difference is Makur was more of a serious prospect at the start of their final year prior to draft to prove their worth. Yet Makur showed more in Sydney and SL than Kai to secure a 2 way.
 
If there is a sense of feeling that Kai has been trying to make the NBA for so long now and is an old prospect, it's not actually imagination. This is really Kai's 3rd summer to try to make the NBA, with the 1st two summer opportunities he failed to convince he's a serious prospect.

now this is the problem with Philippine media like Spin, they simply report on what a agent tells them (Sayson), witb inaccurate underatsnding , of process. And no added insight on Kai 's lack of interest from NBA teams
 
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CoJ said:
your take guys (Jokic and Kai scouting report)

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​​​​​Me and Patbev has the same weaknesses but that doesn't make me an NBA lol.

Jokic is ridiculously strong unlike Kai and his coordination is on another level. BBIQ can only carry you so far if you've got stone hands and uncoordinated. Watch how Jokic operates compared to supposedly more athletic bigmen. He's so much smoother and predictable.

Scouts might have tagged them with the same negatives but let's face it he's got euro genes which made it easier to work out weaknesses unlike Kai who's asian. Take a look at his brothers they have a different built than us. It would be much harder to convince scouts that an awkward skinny asian 7 footer would overcome his weaknesses than a chubby eastern Euro big to lose weigh and improve his explosiveness.
 
One of the absurd and ridiculous comparisons made by Peezone in the past. He did not factor in Jokic turned pro at an earlier age (16 or 17). Plus he had tougher and quality competitions at an earlier age.

Now Jokic won two NBA MVPs and an NBA Finals appearance, his much hyped boy toy is still struggling to be noticed.

I hope Sotto makes an impressive showing in the two-day Utah mini-camp as its most likely a tryout for a Summer League roster. Any info as to who else was invited to the mini-camp?
 
kihei clark got invited to the lakers minicamp .... why is the reaction this news lukewarm compared to kai joining the jazz minicamp? why is homer sayson not picking up that story, if he really is a reputable and unbiased pr man este journalist?
 
To be fair , what a journalist should.do is provide accurate context, no problem with reporting Kai has been invited to a 2 day camp, but add insight on what it really means , like adding research info thst evey year about 500 different other FA are invited to camps., and further add that of undrafted FA who were never invited to combine , about 1 % eventually get signed , now thst is accurate reporting..with insight.. and mot misleading hype..
 
Lakas mangasar ng agent wannabe ni Ryan "The Ranger" Wetherell.

Linusports LOL. Hows your sports agency doing? Any client besides Ryan "The Ranger" Wetherell?
 
Linusports said:
To be honest Kai has a better chance of being picked up compared to any other NZ Undrafted FAs. , note it's both Sports Illustrated and Spin have had multiple reports pertaining to "Kai" .. LOL
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people getting sensitive when presented with reality , and BTW your statement is contradictory to the decisions made by NBA teams, Waadenberg was invited to the NBA Summer league last year, And Mojave King invited to combine this year ( who's citizenship is NZ , not Australian) , and many in mainstream US media (multiple reports) have projected King to be signed to a 2 way contract (if not drafted) , King also has been in many mocks and is a 2 time next star player (recognition given to serious NBA prospect , rejected for Kai). ..
Goes to show again how way way of people are in realizing what Kai's real status is as not a serious prospect. the NBA literally has spoken for the last 3 summers confirming Kai is not a serious prospect. furthermore Waadenberg was voted top U 23 NBL player (next generation player) while Kai wasn't even a top 5 candidate .. so what are u saying ???
 
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i wonder how the kainatics will feel if kiwi mojave king goes in the lottery this year?

only in the philippines where a "minicamp invite" is spun into a major headline when in other countries its at best an asterisk if reported at all.

reality check gentlemen, the mere fact kai is in the bleague works against him getting to the nba. yes, the monetary gain is better in the bleague than say the nbl but nba teams don't have "bleague" high on their scouting list. heck i'm sure 3rd division european leagues are given more weight by nba scouts as opposed to any asian league.
 
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people getting sensitive when presented with reality , and BTW your statement is contradictory to the decisions made by NBA teams, Waadenberg was invited to the NBA Summer league last year, And Mojave King invited to combine this year ( who's citizenship is NZ , not Australian) , and many in mainstream US media (multiple reports) have projected King to be signed to a 2 way contract (if not drafted) , King also has been in many mocks and is a 2 time next star player (recognition given to serious NBA prospect , rejected for Kai). ..
Goes to show again how way way of people are in realizing what Kai's real status is as not a serious prospect. the NBA literally has spoken for the last 3 summers confirming Kai is not a serious prospect. furthermore Waadenberg was voted top U 23 NBL player (next generation player) while Kai wasn't even a top 5 candidate .. so what are u saying ???
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Again, you typed so many words just to say with few meanings …


Waldenburg is a 25yo FA (4yr-College player and 1yr Pro)
Kai is 21yo (3yr International Pro)

One is already finished product while the other still got potential.
 
Linusports said:
Again, you typed so many words just to say with few meanings …


Waldenburg is a 25yo FA (4yr-College player and 1yr Pro)
Kai is 21yo (3yr International Pro)

One is already finished product while the other still got potential.
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Misleading again without full context of how draft upside prospects are assessed

1st Sam is 24 yrs old , 2nd his last 2 years has improved from year to year, ( a late bloomer) 3rd last draft was Sam's 1st NBA attempt , he's still in the 2 year window from 1st attempt for 2 way contracts, got Euro contract.

Now Kai, yes he is just 21 , his last 3 pro seasons has littirally stagnated , in the critical freshman to Junior college age years (super red flag trajectory), this is Kai's 3rd summer to attempt to make the NBA. , so essentially outside the 2 year window to be signed on a 2 way development contract, furthermore he's already been assessed to not improve in last 3 years , so argument thst he has upside potential depite being 21 is gone, and irrelevant (verdict is if he didn't improve from 18 to 21 , it's given he won't from 21 to 24 ), got B league Asian import (not open) contract

BTW forgone conclusion Sam won't make the NBA, which tells you how much more Kai's chances are nil.

And finally you conveniently left out Mojave king in the conversation

This is the thing, when presented witb the full truth, all the info hype being spread, becomes misleading .
 
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kihei clark is very unlikely play in the nba, he's prolly being scouted for a g league team or something, he has a great agent. even remy martin who's bigger, better, more athletic couldn't make it to the nba. he's 5'7" without shoes, how many nba players had that height and is he as good or better than them?
 
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magic_chiongson said:
kihei clark is not going to play in the nba, he's prolly being scouted for a g league team. even remy martin who's bigger, better, more athletic than him couldn't make it to the nba
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I agree, Kihei, Martin, Waardenberg all won't make the NBA, and Kai is in a similar boat if not worst, which puts into context how much hype exaggeration Kai is getting as a prospect

None of the former 3 have ever received remotely close the same expectations and hype as Kai has and is receiving, that's the point .

No one Is making kihei LA invite to mean anything, unlike Kai with statements like he's a step closer to making the NBA (Sayson Spin) , which is downright deceiving
 
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DAdmiral said:
I agree, Kihei, Martin, Waardenberg all won't make the NBA, and Kai is in a similar boat if not worst, which puts into context how much hype exaggeration Kai is getting as a prospect

None of the former 3 have ever received remotely close the same expectations and hype as Kai has and is receiving, that's the point .

No one Is making kihei LA invite to mean anything, unlike Kai with statements like he's a step closer to making the NBA (Sayson Spin) , which is downright deceiving
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yep sayson sure lives up to his name, one of the biggest homers out there. he's a tabloid writer at this point
 
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funny how homer sayson was crucified and called a "yellow journalist" by kainatics before when he reported not so good news about kai in the past but now they embrace him as if he's now some pulitzer prize winning journalist
 
magic_chiongson said:
kihei clark is very unlikely play in the nba, he's prolly being scouted for a g league team or something, he has a great agent. even remy martin who's bigger, better, more athletic couldn't make it to the nba. he's 5'7" without shoes, how many nba players had that height and is he as good or better than them?
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Kihei Clark, Remy Martin and Sedrick Barefield will demote a lot of tenured PBA (if teams are willing to pay) guards to the MPBL.
 
DAdmiral said:
I agree, Kihei, Martin, Waardenberg all won't make the NBA, and Kai is in a similar boat if not worst, which puts into context how much hype exaggeration Kai is getting as a prospect

None of the former 3 have ever received remotely close the same expectations and hype as Kai has and is receiving, that's the point .

No one Is making kihei LA invite to mean anything, unlike Kai with statements like he's a step closer to making the NBA (Sayson Spin) , which is downright deceiving
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Technically, Kai is really a step closer if he shows out at the Summer League. No guarantee he'll make it, but it's a "step towards the right direction".
 
paliganibossalfrancis said:
Technically, Kai is really a step closer if he shows out at the Summer League. No guarantee he'll make it, but it's a "step towards the right direction".
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Yes of course if he performs.well in SL it improves NBAs staff impressions on him (which is so negative currently), but in real context , it's like he has 1 % now and if he somehow plays well in SL it improves to 3 %. Obviously im just throwing relative #s, out. . Thing is in terms of possibility of making NBA, Kai shoild have no more expectations or hype as Remy Martin, who actually is more deserving to be a reasonable prospect.

when you think about it Remy as a Filipino passport holder shoold be receiving more media attention than Kai as a NBA prospect, but we all know it isnt even remotely close to all the Kai hype, it puts into context how over hype the attention Kai is getting.
 
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