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baldur2
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then they will join the team?
then they will join the team?
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Italian Pride2
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DragisA2
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According to this news http://www.europeanbasketballtour.com/news15.htm Omri Casspi will play on the tournament...
I read earlier that he stays in Israel because he is ill... ???
I read earlier that he stays in Israel because he is ill... ???
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thespywhozaggedme2
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Actually I said anything over 2.10 that can hold a ball properly, I'd say he belongs in this definition
He's a great face-up big man I dunno why you don't like him, he's quite a good player. Maybe not too physical but he brings other aspects to the game
Actually, he's not. Statistically, he's one if the worst big men in the history of the NBA. Again, he's a seven footer who can't rebound, can't defend and won't play in the post. Plus, his shooting percentages are quite bad. Bargs has no heart and is lazy, he sucks and is a laughingstock amongst NBA fans.
What "other aspects", as you put it, does he bring?
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thespywhozaggedme2
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also italian fan wait that mago gets out to shit team of raptors...
The team sucks because of him. He's a lazy seven foot chucker that has no heart. Where's he gonna go, no other team wants him. Go to realgm and make a post asking what fans want him for their team, they will laugh you off of the board. The guy is worthless.
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Billy Bounce2
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Yea, some nasty virus.
Watched the game vs. Poland today.
A lot of match-up zone, way too much
Quick release of a ball to offense. Full , half court pressure. Green was rather rusty, as expected. Kukia & Kadir - quite good: a couple of good offensive moves , fast , tough defense. Mekel holds a ball too much, out-of-the-game-flow passes that stuck team offense
Ohayon with good game management, but practically no attempts to score. From all guards, only Roth was quite good offensively. Naimi seems on the way out.Nissim looks out of team completely, understandable he hardly played with this NT . Hope he'll find his place, otherwise I don't want to be in Shivek shoes : he spend so much time persuading Nissim to join.
Eliyahu as usual : excellent offense, was well hidden in zone @defense.
Pnini turns out to be the most reliable outside shooter.
Stats: http://www.galanissportsdata.com/basketball/online/onlinegamegsd.asp?game=1&pop_up_1=1
More or less the hierarchy that I expect:
Ohayon, Roth (Mekel)
Halperin, Burstein
Casspi, Pnini
Eliyahu, Blu , Kadir
Green, Kukiya
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cscarlos2
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Yes, after this training tournament they will join to the other tournaments. Everyone has is own reasons to not go but for me it's look like they are not going cus Shivak wants to test the roster without the main players to check who should be in the team.
Regards the game today, you can't say much from this game...everyone just get in fit and clean the dust away. The roster was unbalance.
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cscarlos2
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LOL I just can't believe we lost! Pnini you bastard!
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MaccabiTA2
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I chose the wrong words, what I meant to say is that he brings different style of play. When you got him you knew he wasn't the classic center that goes down in the post and kills for every 2 points, it was no secret.
You say that statistically he's one of the worst big men in the history of NBA, I really don't lknow how can you prove that using statistics but I'd love to read your proofs for that (good luck finding some)
ItalianPride said that all Italian fans are hoping to see him out of the Raptors too, I won't be surprised if it's true, you can blame Bargnani for your problems but with or without him, Tornto are still a shitty team.
So all in all I believe these two deserve each other, he's "one of the worst centers in NBA history", they're one of the worst teams in NBA history.. A perfect match if you ask me.
And how can we talk about Toronto without this video?
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Xristos
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This guy Nissim is playing great for Israel.
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MaccabiTA2
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I didn't watch today's game (will watch it later) but yesterday against Greece he had some good minutes, especially in the first half.
I'm not sure if he's gonna be in the 12 man roster but if it was up to me, after watching the first two games, I'd keep him. Cuz it seems like our other guards except for Halperin (Mekel, Roth, Naimi, Ohayon) Either have no confidence in their shot or have confidence but shoot like Sh*t So I'd really like to see him in the Eurobasket.
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Billy Bounce2
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It's not easy for guards to play their best while being watched as a candidate to leave. Not that it's a good excuse for playing that bloody awful.
OK, watched all three games. Bigs' selection , it seems is done : Kadir + Kukia stay, Rothbart + Cohen out.
Guards: it's complicated
Afik Nissim is the best shooter guard we had this turnie , but he's 1.80 cm & not too fast, so likely to be a weakest spot on defense against tall SGs. His skills as a ball distributor are rather bleak as for the time being, but there is a room for improvement.
Yuval Naimi: hardly played against Bulgaria/Poland. Was really horrid vs. Greece, forced shots (0/6 FG) , no ball sharing, but then in the middle of 4th hit a clutch triple & couple of midrange shots bringing Israel back from -10. The only Israeli guard with real cojones.
Moran Roth : was very useful vs. Poland, but didn't played much vs. Greece/Bulgaria. Either he's already in for Shivek, or he's a candidate to leave.
Yugev O: The best Israeli PG . Hardly a threat as a scorer, but with Casspi/Eliyahu/Blu/Halperin, Israel NT had enough "firepower".
Gal Mekel: was given more time then anybody else from the guards. It seems he was under big pressure of not making it for the next season: Gal was under his usual level & right now a sure candidate to leave.
The choice Shivek has to take is to choose between Mekel & Naimi . I think Naimi cojones would be more useful for NT. Naimi need a challenge to play his best : hardly a problem with Germany, Serbia, Italy, France in our group.
Hope it would be the final 12-man squad:
C: Green, Kukia
PF: Blu, Eliyahu
SF: Casspi, Pnini
SG: Halperin, Nissim, Burstein
PG: Ohayon, Roth, Naimi
OK, watched all three games. Bigs' selection , it seems is done : Kadir + Kukia stay, Rothbart + Cohen out.
Guards: it's complicated
Afik Nissim is the best shooter guard we had this turnie , but he's 1.80 cm & not too fast, so likely to be a weakest spot on defense against tall SGs. His skills as a ball distributor are rather bleak as for the time being, but there is a room for improvement.
Yuval Naimi: hardly played against Bulgaria/Poland. Was really horrid vs. Greece, forced shots (0/6 FG) , no ball sharing, but then in the middle of 4th hit a clutch triple & couple of midrange shots bringing Israel back from -10. The only Israeli guard with real cojones.
Moran Roth : was very useful vs. Poland, but didn't played much vs. Greece/Bulgaria. Either he's already in for Shivek, or he's a candidate to leave.
Yugev O: The best Israeli PG . Hardly a threat as a scorer, but with Casspi/Eliyahu/Blu/Halperin, Israel NT had enough "firepower".
Gal Mekel: was given more time then anybody else from the guards. It seems he was under big pressure of not making it for the next season: Gal was under his usual level & right now a sure candidate to leave.
The choice Shivek has to take is to choose between Mekel & Naimi . I think Naimi cojones would be more useful for NT. Naimi need a challenge to play his best : hardly a problem with Germany, Serbia, Italy, France in our group.
Hope it would be the final 12-man squad:
C: Green, Kukia
PF: Blu, Eliyahu
SF: Casspi, Pnini
SG: Halperin, Nissim, Burstein
PG: Ohayon, Roth, Naimi
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MaccabiTA2
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@Billy
I agree with the roster, I'd pick the exact same roster if I was Shivek.. Or maybe just put Kadir instead of Naimi/Roth
I agree with the roster, I'd pick the exact same roster if I was Shivek.. Or maybe just put Kadir instead of Naimi/Roth
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Billy Bounce2
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Roth is out.
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barchen2
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Omri Casspi (pulled leg muscle) may miss the EuroBasket tournament -- he needs two weeks of inactivity followed by a month of rehab.
"The knee is not something you play around with," said Casspi. "I will not play again until I know I'm 100% capable ... It's too early to decide [about EuroBasket] now, but I feel horrible pains and can barely move." This is a tough break for the talented Israeli swingman, who could play overseas during the lockout and is slated to start for the Cavaliers whenever the NBA season resumes.
rotoworld...
"The knee is not something you play around with," said Casspi. "I will not play again until I know I'm 100% capable ... It's too early to decide [about EuroBasket] now, but I feel horrible pains and can barely move." This is a tough break for the talented Israeli swingman, who could play overseas during the lockout and is slated to start for the Cavaliers whenever the NBA season resumes.
rotoworld...
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Billy Bounce2
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For the time being he's out for 10 days only. His participation is up to the results of his second MRI test .
BTW, yesterday game vs. all-guards Villanova :
Shivek must abandon this damn zone which was cut by like a butter by Villanova guards. Funny thing , when Israel finally switched to 1 on 1 in the closing minutes , they made a freaking stop on defense , not a usual "and one"
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cscarlos2
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Oh man we look terrible.
We sucks. I can't remember worse preparation games period as this.
We look awful! We can't win against weak teams and we surly don't look like we did last year.
The thing is that I can't put my finger on the reason we look so bad.
We sucks. I can't remember worse preparation games period as this.
We look awful! We can't win against weak teams and we surly don't look like we did last year.
The thing is that I can't put my finger on the reason we look so bad.
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Billy Bounce2
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No leader, Tapiro left huge shoes to fill.
Back in the old days Israel wasn't better then the current squad talent-wise, but when the game was close @final minutes Tapiro was there.
So I'm not worried about the losses per se ( it's preparation, so nobody cares) , but about the fact that in nearly all the games we lost : the reason was chocking - poor execution in money time.
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cscarlos2
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Casspi won't play in the eurobasket du to injury.
Who we got now in SF? Pnini and what? Blu?
It's not our year
Who we got now in SF? Pnini and what? Blu?
It's not our year
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Billy Bounce2
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Let's not be over-dramatic
Casspi is valuable , but his loss won't render Israel NT weaponless . During preparations Casspi felt like he ( as a sole NBA player) has to take 1/3 of team shots, and it hurt the teamplay. Now both Eliyahu & Pnini could take on Omri's share of shots with much better percents.
Defensively Casspi departure will certainly hurt , especially against fast athletic SFs ( France, Serbia ? )
Anyway, as a game against Russia has shown, the Shivek's zone is starting to work, so we'll have our chances to advance next level even from that death group.
Another consequence of Casspi quitting is that it solves the guards problem: Shivek could take all remaining guards with him.
So the final 12-man roster will be:
C: Green, Kukia
PF: Eliyahu, Kadir
SF: Pnini, Blu
SG: Halperin, Nissim, Burstein
PG: Ohayon, Mekel, Naimi
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