Group A, Day 3, Australia vs Germany

[robbe2]

On the same topic, how is "Schaffartzik" pronounced? Can the FIBA announcer possibly be pronouncing it correctly?

No, no, and not in twenty years.

high-ko sha-far-tsik

It's really not difficult but the FIBA announcer has been incredibly creative. He went from "shpotnick" over "schwarzenegger" (seriously) to "shwartznick", which he kept for the remainder of the game.

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Fatigue, mentally and physically, is a very good and perfectly valid excuse for this German team, because they simply lack quality individual talent on this level. They needed huge performances from Jagla and Greene and fighting spirit all throughout to beat a lackadaisical Serbia team minus Teodosic and Kristic on that day. Even Jordan and Angola won't be easy. Germany needs to play at 100% to be able to win games.

 

[Fearless2]

lol of course you dont, Friedrich is German.


Greg Popovich? Rudy Tomjanovich? This is the closest thing they got to ć.

In Germany, professional basketball is known for developing players whose parents or grandparents are immigrants. The national team routinely uses many players who have family roots in Africa, Eastern Europe, United States or others, but have grown up in Germany, speak fluent German and are native Germans by law. The last point is especially important, as the new FIBA rules prevent the use of more than one "naturalized" citizen per country. Famous examples of these allochtonous players are:

* African-German: Stephan Arigbabu, Misan Nikagbatse, Ademola Okulaja, Marvin Willoughby
* American-German: Shawn Bradley, Robert Garrett, Stefano Garris, Demond Greene, Chris Kaman, Elias Harris
* Canadian-German: Michael Jackel
* Croatian-German: Stipo Papić, Dražan Tomić
* Polish-German: Konrad Wysocki
* Serbian-German: Marko Pešić
* Turkish-German: Teoman Öztürk, Mithat Demirel

lol, what's the point of this post, it doesn't contradict mine, on the contrary it says "and are native Germans by law", which ends it, pretty much.

On the "pesic" discussion, you're obviously confusing spelling with pronunciation. I was just saying that the sound of "ch" in German is completely different from the sound of "ć" in Serbian, so you translated wrong.

 

[fastbreak2]

lol, what's the point of this post, it doesn't contradict mine, on the contrary it says "and are native Germans by law", which ends it, pretty much.

On the "pesic" discussion, you're obviously confusing spelling with pronunciation. I was just saying that the sound of "ch" in German is completely different from the sound of "ć" in Serbian, so you translated wrong.

By law, only by law. Taking advantage of the system.

ch is the closest they got to ć. The guy tried to convince me that Pešić is German while two of the letters in his surname are nonexistent in the German language.

 

[Fearless2]

By law, only by law. Taking advantage of the system.

ch is the closest they got to ć. The guy tried to convince me that Pešić is German while two of the letters in his surname are nonexistent in the German language.

as long as "the system" is right, there's nothing wrong in taking "advantage" of it, furthermore I assure you that players like Harris, Green and McNaughton fell 100% german (btw they also have "pure" German mothers, isn't that enough for you?)

And if Serbia had strong immigration from countries that produce good athletes you'd take advantage of the system too, I'm sure.

 

[Hobbit732]

And if Serbia had strong immigration from countries that produce good athletes you'd take advantage of the system too, I'm sure.

Alex Maric... Well, it's not immigration, but emigration, however it's still does a trick. After all, prior to playing for Partizan, he was a 15th choice for a Oz NT & probably wouldn't be even considered to be a water boy, if Bogut didn't get injured...

 

[fastbreak2]

Alex Maric... Well, it's not immigration, but emigration, however it's still does a trick. After all, prior to playing for Partizan, he was a 15th choice for a Oz NT & probably wouldn't be even considered to be a water boy, if Bogut didn't get injured...

Aleks Maric is a Serb, both his parents are Serbian. He wanted to play for Serbia but Australia threatened with a suspension. Totally different case.