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Great Britain National Team

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i wish the play well this year

Pops, Deng and Gordon together msut be an incredible team
 
are you people crazy??just because they have 3 decent nba players doesnt mean they will not be terrible like they have been for the last 60 years...france has 10 and they have only once got close to winning ewurobasket...im sorry but britain has a bad team, with nba players with no experience of international fiba basketball...if anything freeland is their best player in this context..im sorry but in england, where i lived for a year and played in a team, (i have also lived in italy and montenegro with which i am comparing) no one cares about basketball, you cant find it anywhere, wespecially not european basketball...britain is still division B side and after 2012 will return there as their will be no investment their by the prejudiced british authorities who prefer aristocratic sports like cricket or rugby, and of course football as its the worlds best and most popular sport.;..my prediction is that in 2013 britain will again have no one good once olympics os over (wehere they will be waste of space...im soerry there are 12 sides in europe bettern than them)..its a shame, on street levcel there are some great players but britain as a country will never take it seriously
 
orgoglioslavo69 said:
are you people crazy??just because they have 3 decent nba players doesnt mean they will not be terrible like they have been for the last 60 years...france has 10 and they have only once got close to winning ewurobasket...im sorry but britain has a bad team, with nba players with no experience of international fiba basketball...if anything freeland is their best player in this context..im sorry but in england, where i lived for a year and played in a team, (i have also lived in italy and montenegro with which i am comparing) no one cares about basketball, you cant find it anywhere, wespecially not european basketball...britain is still division B side and after 2012 will return there as their will be no investment their by the prejudiced british authorities who prefer aristocratic sports like cricket or rugby, and of course football as its the worlds best and most popular sport.;..my prediction is that in 2013 britain will again have no one good once olympics os over (wehere they will be waste of space...im soerry there are 12 sides in europe bettern than them)..its a shame, on street levcel there are some great players but britain as a country will never take it seriously
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1) There's no best sport.
2) Remember how they were last time? And they were without their NBA players?

Of course no one cares there about basketball but who cares about that? If they can gather quite strong team then what's the problem? The final championship's game in Montenegro where Budočnost won was spectated by ~300 people (may be there's hundred or two difference, I can't remember exact number) so what's there? Anything better? But they have a lot of good players. As I said in other threads before: these times everyone plays basketball and knows how to do it.
 
orgoglioslavo69 said:
are you people crazy??just because they have 3 decent nba players doesnt mean they will not be terrible like they have been for the last 60 years...france has 10 and they have only once got close to winning ewurobasket...im sorry but britain has a bad team, with nba players with no experience of international fiba basketball...if anything freeland is their best player in this context..im sorry but in england, where i lived for a year and played in a team, (i have also lived in italy and montenegro with which i am comparing) no one cares about basketball, you cant find it anywhere, wespecially not european basketball...britain is still division B side and after 2012 will return there as their will be no investment their by the prejudiced british authorities who prefer aristocratic sports like cricket or rugby, and of course football as its the worlds best and most popular sport.;..my prediction is that in 2013 britain will again have no one good once olympics os over (wehere they will be waste of space...im soerry there are 12 sides in europe bettern than them)..its a shame, on street levcel there are some great players but britain as a country will never take it seriously
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first of all who talked about Britain being a contender in this thread?Then they don't belong to divsion B.they were crushing every opponent when they were playing there,they actually qualified twice from division A to the last two eurobaskets fair and square beating teams like Bosnia,Israel,Fyrom,Ukraine.Not exactly powerhouses but not trash either..They didn't have to wait for the expansion to get their ticket.

And if i hear that cliche about nba players not being able to perform under fiba rules.Luol Deng has actually played under those rules and did just fine(he actually had Jordanesque stats against the competition mentioned above),saying Freeland who is a fine player is more important than him is just laugable.
 
Phoenix32 said:
i wish the play well this year

Pops, Deng and Gordon together msut be an incredible team
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And Freeland, and Clark, and Archibald...
This is a very good team, top 8 talentwise in the tournament for sure. It wouldn't be such an upset if they even reached the semifinals.
 
Well... it would be a surprise. Earth calling?! :)

Don't be naive, guys. Assembling 12 man and expecting them to perform out of nothing isn't what normally happens.
Does the federation have the experience and staff needed regarding players perparations or organisation in that period? nope, I'm sure they can work that out to some extent, but it's something they'll mostlikely only learn from this season.

What terrifies me with Spanish NT isn't all those names, Calderon, Navarro, both Gasol's, Rudy, and others... but the number of games at this level they've played together does! British NT will have to depend on preparation games. They might get along above average, but the normally expected outcome would be a slight underperformance due to no (on first sight) obvious reason.

They've got some great big guys there... anyone that played organised bball at least on semi serious level, knows what a full court press can do to a single guard. If anyone needs a refreshment and comparison on higeher level, watch Slovenian NT for the last 2 tournaments with Lakovič always being worn out as a whore in military camp on the last 2 games... maybee they do have guard able to accomplish that, but we just don't know that yet.

I must admit, I didn't pay much attention in details to Deng or Gordon, I wish them all the best, but there are differences between both bball's, they both should rightfully considered as enigma untill prooven otherwise (sorry U18 is just U18)
Whoever disagrees, let them watch Parker at the last 5 or 6 championships and I dare him not to fall asleep along :P


I'd be a positive thing for european basketball if UK would be able to achieve some decent results, stay regular among the elite, let alone develop some decent clubs.I wish them all the luck and I'll definately be rooting for this to happen. But anything more than 9th-12th place would be a surprise. In 2012 in front of their home crowd, with one year of experience more... well that's another subject...
 
Deng has played with Gb a lot during the last 4 years .He's not an enigma,he's proven he can play under fiba rules just fine.The final stage of eurobasket in Poland was the only tournament he missed due to injury.And what exactly in his game wouldn't translate in fiba competition?It's not as if he's someone who relies solely on his athleticism

Whoever disagrees, let them watch Parker at the last 5 or 6 championships and I dare him not to fall asleep along :P
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i dare you to watch France NT in last world championship without Parker and not fall asleep.
 
Jon_Koncak said:
i dare you to watch France NT in last world championship without Parker and not fall asleep.
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You may have a point here :o

I'm not dissing on Deng exclusively or his game, nor Gordon, there just are differences within the game rules and/or mentality within the both games and they can be decisive. You're right about Deng playing on quite some tournaments, I might be wrong here, at least as far as his part is concerned, but shortcomings at great players only tend to showcase at the upmost level. This is yet to see and I don't mean to say he'll do bad... or good... I am just saying that he should still be considered as an enigma.
 
deng won't have problems with rules, deng is not chemisty breaker and easy fits in any team but gordon could have problems in all of that

I would like to see young Devon on PG:cool:
 
That's it. Deng has played with GB this past years and has done it great.
Don't get me wrong, they have flaws, specially the PG position is quite weak, but they're not so far from the top teams, except Spain.
 
Initial Great Britain Senior Men’s Roster

Kieron Achara (Barcellona, Italy)
Ogo Adegboye (St Bonavantures, USA)
Robert Archibald (Unicaja Malaga, Spain)
Eric Boateng (Austin Toros, USA)
Flinder Boyd (AEK, Greece)
Matthew Bryan-Amaning (University of Washington, USA)
Dan Clark (Estudiantes, Spain)
Luol Deng (Chicago Bulls, USA)
Laurence Ekperigin (Angelico Biella, Italy)
Joel Freeland (Unicaja Malaga, Spain)
Ben Gordon (Detroit Pistons, USA)
Ashley Hamilton (Loyola Marymount University, USA)
James Jones (Mersey Tigers, England)
Mike Lenzly (CEZ Nymburk, Czech Republic)
Nate Reinking (Mersey Tigers, England)
Justin Robinson (Rider University, USA)
Andrew Sullivan (Mersey Tigers, England)
 
It's a nice team

Too bad they will struggle in such a tough group. Yet again, they might surprise both Lithuania and Turkey and also beat Poland to go through as 2nd
 
If they were in C or D they'd make the knock out stage casually, but they landed the group of death again still wouldn't overlook them though.

Also what's with people saying they don't have experience? The only one without international experience is Gordan. Deng's played in all the qualifiers.
 
I think you are under estimating the blow of losing Pops.

He was monstrous during the QR last summer and outside of Freeland, GB have absolutely nothing of the required calibre - some good hard working and promising guys but seriously, Pops missing out isn't far away from as being as critical as Deng missing 2009
 
Great Britain youngsters make the jump to men..
John Hobbs

Seven players that have come up from the successful Great Britain under-20 and Futures squads have been invited to Cobham this weekend, as coach Chris Finch begins preparations for this summer's Eurobasket.

Devan Bailey, Kyle Johnson, Andrew Lawrence, Alex Marcotullio, Ryan Richards, Christopher Ayer and Devon Van Oostrum have been selected to train with the seniors, as the future of Great Britain basketball takes further shape.

"These players have done very well in the programmes we have been running this year and they are being justly rewarded for their good performances in the last six to eight weeks," said British Basketball Performance Director Chris Spice.

Great Britain will play two exhibition games in Cobham on August 7th against Netherlands and again two days later on the 9th against Nigeria. These games are being played behind closed doors, which has been met with some criticism due to the fact that no fans are allowed.

Great Britain will then christen the new Basketball Arena in East London for the Olympic Test Event on between the 16th and 21st August. GB will be joined by Serbia, France, Croatia, Australia and China.

Great Britain Roster:

Kieron Achara, Ogo Adeboye, Robert Archibald, Christopher Ayer, Devan Bailey, Eric Boateng, Flinder Boyd, Matthew Bryan-Amaning, Dan Clark, Luol Deng, Laurence Ekperigin, Joel Freeland, Ben Gordon, Ashley Hamilton, Kyle Johnson, James Jones, Mike Lenzley, Andrew Lawrence, Alex Marcotullio, Nate Reinking, Justin Robinson, Ryan Richards, Andrew Sullivan, Devon Van Oostrum.
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http://www.talkbasket.net/5914-great-britain-youngsters-make-the-jump-to-men.html
 
Dizz said:
I think you are under estimating the blow of losing Pops.

He was monstrous during the QR last summer and outside of Freeland, GB have absolutely nothing of the required calibre - some good hard working and promising guys but seriously, Pops missing out isn't far away from as being as critical as Deng missing 2009
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Sadly I agree with this. When the draw was made it was obvious we would need everyone fit and prepared to have a chance to progress. If I'm being honest, even with Deng and Gordon (and fingers crossed we have them) it will be difficult because Pops presents such a matchup challenge for virtually everyone (who else in the tournament is more athletic and powerful? Ibaka, maybe?) Pops was equally important as Deng in the qualifiers (although neither Freeland nor Archibald played). What pisses me off is looking at Group D, I honestly think we could finish second in that group with a bit of luck, but... that's the draw, nothing we can do about that.

One thing is sure, there will be about 50 noisy Brits in Panevezys and we'll do our best to make ourselves heard!
 
Do you think any of the recent announcements of the 'other' players have any chance of realistically making the roster by the way?

eg Christopher Ayer, Devan Bailey, Ashley Hamilton, Kyle Johnson, James Jones, Andrew Lawrence, Alex Marcotullio, Ryan Richards, Devon Van Oostrum.

or do you think the smart money is the tried and tested battling it out with the addition of maybe Ekpergin.

Kieron Achara, Ogo Adeboye Robert Archibald, Eric Boateng, Flinder Boyd, Matthew Bryan-Amaning, Dan Clark, Luol Deng, Laurence Ekperigin, Joel Freeland, Ben Gordon, Mike Lenzley, Nate Reinking, Justin Robinson, Andrew Sullivan
 
Dizz said:
Do you think any of the recent announcements of the 'other' players have any chance of realistically making the roster by the way?

eg Christopher Ayer, Devan Bailey, Ashley Hamilton, Kyle Johnson, James Jones, Andrew Lawrence, Alex Marcotullio, Ryan Richards, Devon Van Oostrum.

or do you think the smart money is the tried and tested battling it out with the addition of maybe Ekpergin.

Kieron Achara, Ogo Adeboye Robert Archibald, Eric Boateng, Flinder Boyd, Matthew Bryan-Amaning, Dan Clark, Luol Deng, Laurence Ekperigin, Joel Freeland, Ben Gordon, Mike Lenzley, Nate Reinking, Justin Robinson, Andrew Sullivan
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I think Richards might get in ahead of Robinson and Ekperegin, I know he's not a centre but a 7 footer is more useful as a body than another small guard (Robinson) or someone who plays the same position as Deng (Ekperigin).

rotation:

G Lenzley / Boyd / Adegboye
G Gordon / Reinking
F Deng / Sullivan / Achara
F Freeland / Clark / Bryan-Amaning / Richards
C Archibald / Boateng
 
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