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Future Big Men Of Philippine Basketball

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Hence, a reliable medium range jump shot would be valuable asset for a 4. Mid-range jump shot seems to be a dying art in modern basketball as halos lahat nalang gustong tumira sa 3's. Yung iba kahit hindi talaga range ang 3-pt, tira pa rin ng tira instead of taking a medium range shot. That is why I love the eras of the 90's & early 2000's PBA. Bigs like Patrimonio, Limpot, Vic Pablo, Codinera, Espino, Bong Hawkins, Danny Ildefonso, had very reliable mid-range jumpers.

Sure, it's just two points and it's less efficient than a shot close to the basket, but come on, it's still a valuable shot, especially for bigs. Even if the bigs can't make a 3-ball, a midrange jumper will help space the floor enough. However, shooting's a matter of practice, and some can develop that weapon eventually.

Also, the bigs you mentioned were good low-post operators as well. A 6'7"-6'8" big who can play 4, can operate in the post, and probably shoot from midrange would be a nice addition for Gilas.
 
For me, train those kids on how to dribble the ball on both hands to save his life in front of a notorious defender and teach them the basic mechanics on how to shoot the free throw in a balance way, then if the lad already establish his muscle memory on those two aspects, then eventually taught them the proper placing and timing in rebounding a ball on both ends. I think those stuff is a good foundation if the handlers wants those kids to be a serviceable players both defensively and offensively on the long run, and on the other hand, footworks and strong reflexes can be develop eventually during the above drills…The bottomline here is to establish the proper balance on both feet inside the court and eventually squeeze whatever basketball talent those tall kids had, and lastly, the critical part is the attitude, are those kids are motivated and dedicated enough to challenge themselves to be better every day, skills-wise or they are just contented on what’s on the table provided by their Jurassic minded(?) handlers/coaches. The good thing about Kai Sotto when he is still a 12 yr. old kid interviewed by that bombastic Snow Badua that he is dead serious in playing in the NBA and be a regular All-Star Guy star guy. As much as I’m expecting that all younger kids nowadays had the same mindset as a 12 yr. old Kai but in reality every kids had a different perspective as far as basketball career are concern moving forward, I hope that there are still a lot of Kaiju minded kids out there who had the audacity to dream big if they think they had the physical attributes to do so.

Usually, especially the poor kids (like JMF), they are contented to play in the PBA (or Uaap/Ncaa) since it will help them to turn from rags to riches. (For them, that is the ultimate dream already)

I am an avid Kai Sotto Fan. But we cannot deny that aside from his Height and Skills. He is also blessed with a family that is capable financially. And they are all support to Kai in hid nba dreams.

If only more and more sponsors can help.

But I agree, I hope they dream bigger. And if they do, hope there are some good sponsors there to support them
 
Math, Totally agree reality bites. We can't live in made up, we have to face the real third world country scenarios
 
I always ask who in NCAA or UAAP center that hasn't have a perimeter shot in the last 10 years. Most of the time its the FSA who have no outside shot.
 
Usually, especially the poor kids (like JMF), they are contented to play in the PBA (or Uaap/Ncaa) since it will help them to turn from rags to riches. (For them, that is the ultimate dream already)

I am an avid Kai Sotto Fan. But we cannot deny that aside from his Height and Skills. He is also blessed with a family that is capable financially. And they are all support to Kai in hid nba dreams.

If only more and more sponsors can help.

But I agree, I hope they dream bigger. And if they do, hope there are some good sponsors there to support them

It's only the well off kids who can dream of eveb sniffing the NBA. Do you think Kiefer,Japeth, Kobe, would even think of going to the US if they're poor? Heck even Parks went back to the Philippines to play ball because of financial reasons like a lot of Filipino foreigners
 
I always ask who in NCAA or UAAP center that hasn't have a perimeter shot in the last 10 years. Most of the time its the FSA who have no outside shot.

But they will clog the shaded lane. Hence, it will always difficult for most Pinoy players to either post up or penetrate to the basket. They need to develop their perimeter shooting to counter the bigger FSA.
 
But they will clog the shaded lane. Hence, it will always difficult for most Pinoy players to either post up or penetrate to the basket. They need to develop their perimeter shooting to counter the bigger FSA.

Give me a team in UAAP that a local Center doesn't have a decent perimeter. For example of my argument. UST has Concepcion and Ando both have good to very good perimeter shot.
 
It's only the well off kids who can dream of eveb sniffing the NBA. Do you think Kiefer,Japeth, Kobe, would even think of going to the US if they're poor? Heck even Parks went back to the Philippines to play ball because of financial reasons like a lot of Filipino foreigners

Sad but true
 
Give me a team in UAAP that a local Center doesn't have a decent perimeter. For example of my argument. UST has Concepcion and Ando both have good to very good perimeter shot.

I think Concepcion can actually be developed as a 2/3. He somewhat plays like a perimeter player. Ando naman, actually I think he can play 4 as well, given that he can space the floor for a bigger but non-shooting or more inside-operating teammate. Like you said, both are good perimeter shooters.

Ayo's system in UST can be positionless on offense, e. It had an effect on the two players mentioned.
 
I always ask who in NCAA or UAAP center that hasn't have a perimeter shot in the last 10 years. Most of the time its the FSA who have no outside shot.

But they will clog the shaded lane. Hence, it will always difficult for most Pinoy players to either post up or penetrate to the basket. They need to develop their perimeter shooting to counter the bigger FSA.

To be fair naman, it's true, our homegrown NCAA/UAAP bigs have been developing a jumper, whether midrange or 3-point line, just to help space the floor. That kinda helps them complement (or counter) the FSA, depending on the lineup and matchup.

Those local bigs will still need to play the PF, though, instead of just backing up the center. They'll get used to guarding the perimeter a little more, but they can still play like bigs at that spot, especially the good ones who can play the post really well. If someone like Isaac Go can play as a big PF, these 6'6"-6'8" collegiate bigs can play the 4 as well.
 
To be fair naman, it's true, our homegrown NCAA/UAAP bigs have been developing a jumper, whether midrange or 3-point line, just to help space the floor. That kinda helps them complement (or counter) the FSA, depending on the lineup and matchup.

Those local bigs will still need to play the PF, though, instead of just backing up the center. They'll get used to guarding the perimeter a little more, but they can still play like bigs at that spot, especially the good ones who can play the post really well. If someone like Isaac Go can play as a big PF, these 6'6"-6'8" collegiate bigs can play the 4 as well.

I remember during Sudan's and Ekwe's time they would post insane block numbers because the locals haven't adjusted to their length and athleticism. Nowadays you won't see such stats anymore because everyone is used to playing with them.
 
Give me a team in UAAP that a local Center doesn't have a decent perimeter. For example of my argument. UST has Concepcion and Ando both have good to very good perimeter shot.

sorry but I don't get your question and I don't even get your point. I just answer your reply that the FSA's have no perimeter shooting. for the majority, I agree with you - that these FSA's are no good shooters, maybe except Kouame, Chabi Yo and Mbala. However, why they have to if they just clog the lane in offense? They are physically taller, bigger and stronger.
 
I remember during Sudan's and Ekwe's time they would post insane block numbers because the locals haven't adjusted to their length and athleticism. Nowadays you won't see such stats anymore because everyone is used to playing with them.

And now, ayun. Can't get used to length and height of foreigners if there's none. And the PBA is also somewhat doing that, although with a 6'6" height limit instead of a total ban on imports. Our 6'6"-6'8" bigs can't play 4 next to a shorter import, or without an import.
 
And now, ayun. Can't get used to length and height of foreigners if there's none. And the PBA is also somewhat doing that, although with a 6'6" height limit instead of a total ban on imports. Our 6'6"-6'8" bigs can't play 4 next to a shorter import, or without an import.

6'6 wings forced to play big against our 6'7 and above players. Even FSAs in college are taller than that. Ola and co aren't really that busy nowadays. Why can't they just sign them?
 
It's only the well off kids who can dream of eveb sniffing the NBA. Do you think Kiefer,Japeth, Kobe, would even think of going to the US if they're poor? Heck even Parks went back to the Philippines to play ball because of financial reasons like a lot of Filipino foreigners

LOL but the fact is these players you mentioned had other people footing their bill in the us, its no secret that danding footed the bill of kobe. they didn't pay for their expenses out of their own pocket. hence the more accurate statement is "you need a backer to even sniff the nba by playing HS ball in the US".
 
LOL but the fact is these players you mentioned had other people footing their bill in the us, its no secret that danding footed the bill of kobe. they didn't pay for their expenses out of their own pocket. hence the more accurate statement is "you need a backer to even sniff the nba by playing HS ball in the US".

LOL even then all of them are second generation. Kai had a property to live in the US and still had to spend his own money. Can’t really say more but agencies don’t actually shoulder everything. That’s probably why Lopez or Tamayo didn’t go through EWP, they needed to spend themselves (or have backing). But I feel if your dad was a former player and had ties to these people it’s easier to get sponsorship.

News that Lopez joined
Forgoes EWP training
 
https://www.facebook.com/162005507180351/posts/4664287400285450/

Another Discovery

A 6’8” 17-year-old boy received his first dose of Covid-19 vaccine last November 12 at Cotabato City Central Pilot School.

The national government recently included the vaccination of pediatric age groups 12 to 17 years old to give them "extra layer of protection" against the virus.

�� Dr. Stephen Henry Chin via SunStar Davao
#AllYouNeedToKnow

Some more info on this kid:

The mother says that the kid is 6'10" in shoes. The coach says that he's a good defender and has long arms, and can also shoot well, at least from midrange. Heck, the video also shows him doing stepbacks. His mechanics look good, just need a little tweaking. He just needs to work on conditioning, since his stamina's a weak point.

Hope this kid can play both 4 and 5. Could be useful for him, especially considering that he wants to play for Batang Gilas.
 
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3932612973508377&id=221332367969808



AND NOW, HE WILL GO TO SAN BEDA. LOL

Looks like He is from Cotabato

"Brix Verzosa, 17, is 6-foot-8, wears size 20 shoes, and is committed to play for San Beda once high school basketball returns #vaxxed #teenprodigy"

"Si Brix, hilig niya talaga 'yan maglaro ng basketball. Simula bata siya, dito lang sa lugar namin, sumasali 'yan sa mga liga-liga, ganon pa lang," Janet Soriano, Brix's mother, tells SPIN Life."

"Mahilig maglaro pero sobrang mahiyain, kahit lumabas ng bahay, nahihiya. Minsan, tuwing lalabas kami, sasabihin sa akin, 'Ma, ang daming nakatingin sakin,' sasabihin ko naman na 'ganon talaga, matangkad ka,'," she shared.

"Bata pa lang siya, angat na talaga 'yung height niya. Wala naman akong ginawang pagpapalaking iba kundi pagkain nang tama, at hinahayaan ko siya matulog," she said.

"May basketball court dito walking distance lang sa amin, every afternoon nagpa-practice sila, nagshu-shooting kasama ng mga pinsan niya. Center ang laro niya," his mom shares."

"May nagpakilala sa amin sa coach ng San Beda, si coach Noli Mejos, tapos ayon, binigyan nila ng scholarship si Brix, at nagpadala ng mga gamit at sapatos, ngayon may nagagamit na siya," she said.

He'll be a big part of their plans, according to the Beda Red Cubs coach: https://www.spin.ph/basketball/ncaa...-hopes-for-that-viral-tall-kid-a2437-20211205

Coach says he's a project, and he can form a good partnership with Adrian Sollano. Red Cubs might have a nice twin tower combination in their hands.
 
He'll be a big part of their plans, according to the Beda Red Cubs coach: https://www.spin.ph/basketball/ncaa...-hopes-for-that-viral-tall-kid-a2437-20211205

Coach says he's a project, and he can form a good partnership with Adrian Sollano. Red Cubs might have a nice twin tower combination in their hands.

And, wow, looks like Beda also got Sollano. If they did get him, Sollano's in a good program to hone his perimeter skills, seeing as he's a more perimeter-oriented big, based on the videos made on him. If they could make him an oversized wing in the mold of Tamayo and Baltazar, that would be a treat for a bigman prospect.
 
sorry but I don't get your question and I don't even get your point. I just answer your reply that the FSA's have no perimeter shooting. for the majority, I agree with you - that these FSA's are no good shooters, maybe except Kouame, Chabi Yo and Mbala. However, why they have to if they just clog the lane in offense? They are physically taller, bigger and stronger.

What I got from your statement is that Pinoys bigs should have perimeter game. Which I agree, thats why I asked who are those Centers who have no perimeter shot. A lot of IBNers are saying we need coaches to make 4 and 5 to be perimeter players. Which I always reply that most are already and most schools encourage that skill in our bigs since this decade. Why are we still asking coaches something they already are doing
 
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