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Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

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Rds said:
He needs a lot of adjustment to shift to PG from SG.
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He'll be fine, charles tiu ran him a alot as point as soon as the 2023 offseason started, then in season 99, he got a lot more of the playmaking duties even with a natural pg on the floor with him. He ended up having the 2nd best assist totals for csb. What he needs improvement on is shot selection.
 
Metta said:
Just realized that Onuaku is the player who shoots his freethrows underhanded (arinola-style). Guy was a meme in college.

Kinda makes you realize the guy doesn't give an eff what people think.

Game suspensions should have been the penalty.
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You know its pretty serious when even the local koreans are calling him out as well. Instead of that fine, onuaku should had just covered abando's medical bills.
 

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However, there is controversy over whether Onuaku's disciplinary action is too light. Looking at past cases, it would have been correct to impose a suspension, but it ended up being a simple fine. Onuaku played without incident after the incident. The victim, Abando, is currently complaining of extreme pain to the point where he cannot even go to the bathroom on his own.​
 
hmbopbaduwap said:
https://m.jumpball.co.kr/news/newsview.php?ncode=1065584228400580&_ref=

However, there is controversy over whether Onuaku's disciplinary action is too light. Looking at past cases, it would have been correct to impose a suspension, but it ended up being a simple fine. Onuaku played without incident after the incident. The victim, Abando, is currently complaining of extreme pain to the point where he cannot even go to the bathroom on his own.​
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I think the Abando incident became the last straw for the fans,it seems KBL has a history of light punishment and a business as usual attitude,hopefully they will reexamine the case and fine him more and gotta be at least a 3 game suspension.
 
Abando's agents contemplating on filing legal charges on Onuaku

https://n.news.naver.com/sports/basketball/article/076/0004094219

Meanwhile, it was confirmed that, separate from KBL's post-action response, Abando has begun the preliminary preparation stage for a civil lawsuit. Currently, Abando has a two-way agent, including an agent who also acts as a guardian in his home country of the Philippines and an agent who arranged for him to join a domestic club.

These representatives are currently in close contact and are seeking a response to hold Onuaku accountable, and are said to be considering legal action as well. Abando has never received a direct moral apology from Onuaku since the incident occurred. Although General Manager Sono and the coach delivered an apology to the Cheong Kwan-Jang team, there was no communication between the parties involved, Abando and Onuaku.

​When similar cases occurred in the past, it was customary for players to take the time to directly apologize and forgive in accordance with the 'spirit of partnership'. In contrast, Abando's side is said to be in the position of suffering a 'secondary wound' due to Onuaku's insincerity.

Abando's side had inquired with KBL about a means of contacting Onuaku's agent to hear Onuaku's side, but was refused on the grounds that it was personal information. The same request was made to the Sono team, but for the same reason, no contact information was received, so there was no communication with Onuaku.

In addition, Abando is taking preliminary preparations to see if it can be held legally responsible for Onuaku's actions that caused injuries that could have a significant impact on the player's life. Mr. A, Abando's domestic agent, recently appointed a lawyer and is seeking legal advice. In relation to similar incidents that occurred during games, we are collecting data, including cases from domestic and overseas leagues where civil remedies, such as compensation for damages, have been established when intentionality is proven.

Abando's side believes that Onuaku's intentionality is proven by looking at various circumstances, such as the KBL's imposition of an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty through the Financial Committee. If an injury occurs due to an intentional act other than the normal course of play, compensation must be made for various damages resulting from the injury. In addition, in the case of a lumbar fracture, there can be concern about possible aftereffects on his athletic ability as a basketball player in the future.

​According to the Cheong Kwan Jang club, Agent A is in the process of receiving careful legal advice, and after Abando, where stability is currently the top priority, recovers to some extent, they plan to ask for opinions and decide whether to file a civil lawsuit.

If it escalates into a lawsuit, it is expected to be an unprecedented situation. In domestic professional basketball, there have been no legal disputes due to injuries sustained during the game, and it is known that it is difficult to find precedents in other sports.​
 
gospursgo said:
All they need now is a playmaking pg to distribute them the ball.
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Isaiah Thomas is still in free agency.. calling Strong group to hire him… they have the money anyway… or less cheaper mikey williams..
 
hmbopbaduwap said:
Abando's agents contemplating on filing legal charges on Onuaku

https://n.news.naver.com/sports/basketball/article/076/0004094219

Meanwhile, it was confirmed that, separate from KBL's post-action response, Abando has begun the preliminary preparation stage for a civil lawsuit. Currently, Abando has a two-way agent, including an agent who also acts as a guardian in his home country of the Philippines and an agent who arranged for him to join a domestic club.

These representatives are currently in close contact and are seeking a response to hold Onuaku accountable, and are said to be considering legal action as well. Abando has never received a direct moral apology from Onuaku since the incident occurred. Although General Manager Sono and the coach delivered an apology to the Cheong Kwan-Jang team, there was no communication between the parties involved, Abando and Onuaku.

​When similar cases occurred in the past, it was customary for players to take the time to directly apologize and forgive in accordance with the 'spirit of partnership'. In contrast, Abando's side is said to be in the position of suffering a 'secondary wound' due to Onuaku's insincerity.

Abando's side had inquired with KBL about a means of contacting Onuaku's agent to hear Onuaku's side, but was refused on the grounds that it was personal information. The same request was made to the Sono team, but for the same reason, no contact information was received, so there was no communication with Onuaku.

In addition, Abando is taking preliminary preparations to see if it can be held legally responsible for Onuaku's actions that caused injuries that could have a significant impact on the player's life. Mr. A, Abando's domestic agent, recently appointed a lawyer and is seeking legal advice. In relation to similar incidents that occurred during games, we are collecting data, including cases from domestic and overseas leagues where civil remedies, such as compensation for damages, have been established when intentionality is proven.

Abando's side believes that Onuaku's intentionality is proven by looking at various circumstances, such as the KBL's imposition of an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty through the Financial Committee. If an injury occurs due to an intentional act other than the normal course of play, compensation must be made for various damages resulting from the injury. In addition, in the case of a lumbar fracture, there can be concern about possible aftereffects on his athletic ability as a basketball player in the future.

​According to the Cheong Kwan Jang club, Agent A is in the process of receiving careful legal advice, and after Abando, where stability is currently the top priority, recovers to some extent, they plan to ask for opinions and decide whether to file a civil lawsuit.

If it escalates into a lawsuit, it is expected to be an unprecedented situation. In domestic professional basketball, there have been no legal disputes due to injuries sustained during the game, and it is known that it is difficult to find precedents in other sports.​
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There's no precedent on this,players had been hurt before even worse,what happened on the court stays on the court so the league will probably changed the penalty and make it harsher,but taking players and official to civil court will change everything,it will become a no defense,contact basketball like for elementary kids.Imagine since the beginning of NFL there's countless of players career and health was ended too soon,and there's alot of call to make it more less violent,lots of rules have been implemneted but its still a violent sport,its the nature of the game.As Jaworski said if you don't want to get hurt,play chess.I'm for the reassesment of the fine and suspension,but to take this to a civil court for damages is not good for the sport.
 
ARMIR said:
There's no precedent on this,players had been hurt before even worse,what happened on the court stays on the court so the league will probably changed the penalty and make it harsher,but taking players and official to civil court will change everything,it will become a no defense,contact basketball like for elementary kids.Imagine since the beginning of NFL there's countless of players career and health was ended too soon,and there's alot of call to make it more less violent,lots of rules have been implemneted but its still a violent sport,its the nature of the game.As Jaworski said if you don't want to get hurt,play chess.I'm for the reassesment of the fine and suspension,but to take this to a civil court for damages is not good for the sport.
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I agree with this. There’s always a risk of something bad happening whether intentional or not. It’s on the KBL to make the penalty commensurate to the infraction. I always hear penalize the deed not the result. But I think you have to take that in consiideration as well given the severity.
 
ARMIR said:
There's no precedent on this,players had been hurt before even worse,what happened on the court stays on the court so the league will probably changed the penalty and make it harsher,but taking players and official to civil court will change everything,it will become a no defense,contact basketball like for elementary kids.Imagine since the beginning of NFL there's countless of players career and health was ended too soon,and there's alot of call to make it more less violent,lots of rules have been implemneted but its still a violent sport,its the nature of the game.As Jaworski said if you don't want to get hurt,play chess.I'm for the reassesment of the fine and suspension,but to take this to a civil court for damages is not good for the sport.
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Just recently a hockey player was arrested on manslaughter charges for an incident that happened during a live game.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...charge-uk-ice-hockey-players-death-rcna125134
 
Rds said:
I agree with this. There’s always a risk of something bad happening whether intentional or not. It’s on the KBL to make the penalty commensurate to the infraction. I always hear penalize the deed not the result. But I think you have to take that in consiideration as well given the severity.
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You always take the result into consideration. That's how it goes in our justice system.
 
Rds said:
I agree with this. There’s always a risk of something bad happening whether intentional or not. It’s on the KBL to make the penalty commensurate to the infraction. I always hear penalize the deed not the result. But I think you have to take that in consiideration as well given the severity.
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What works better is when a league raises the amount of fine and suspensions,it stops or reduce the extracurricular activities,just like in the NBA during those bad boys era,big fines and suspensions made them fools acting up.
 
They should suspend the player without pay for however long the victim is out IMO. Happened before in football though I can't exactly remember who and when or I might be remembering things differently
 
thatweirdguy said:
They should suspend the player without pay for however long the victim is out IMO. Happened before in football though I can't exactly remember who and when or I might be remembering things differently
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A long time suspension is a must and a bigger fine for sure.I'm just not a fan of taking things that happened on the court to civil court,unless you can prove that the other player is deliberately trying to hurt you,evidence doesn't match it,the dude just commited a big brain fart unfortuanelty,he just doesn't know his own strength.
 
ARMIR said:
A long time suspension is a must and a bigger fine for sure.I'm just not a fan of taking things that happened on the court to civil court,unless you can prove that the other player is deliberately trying to hurt you,evidence doesn't match it,the dude just commited a big brain fart unfortuanelty,he just doesn't know his own strength.
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Yes, when you are an athlete, you need to be aware about the "assumption of risk".
 
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