Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

[b@tu2]

[Serious] Moving forward, what is Kai's likely next move?

Is he joining Gilas or try Europe/Australia?

Gilas would be the last option. Very last option. I don't see Europe and Australia as being done deals either. Kai isn't really a top prospect. Europe is full of young talent from all over the world and many his age are already seasoned pros. He could join a team in the lower tier or but that would not be good marketing move for his "brand." Australia has very limited spots on its rosters. The debacle of him signing a contract but not playing a single game for Ignite will not bode well for him in the eyes of management anywhere. Would anyone want to sign a player who might suddenly change his mind and decide that doesn't want to play for your team? Remember, Kai is only a superstar in the Philippines, nowhere else. Kai might just end up in the CBA. Lots of former NBA players go there and the level of competition is ok. If he does well there, then other opportunities may open up.

 

[jasper2222]

Sigh.

See you in 5 years IBN.

Maybe there will be another kid to carry the dream at that point.

 

[paolylo2]

The mods will surely merge this thread with that other nuthugger/wanker/"take me back" thread because it's pointless to post and be completely disagreeable to those who differ to your opinion. Anyone who's been here in IBN long enough would know these threads end up getting merged anyway.

In the first place, it was a mistake for him to play for Gilas just based on how difficult it was and still is to travel with all the quarantine and testing protocols regardless of what happened in Qatar/Clark. Him being in the US still puts him in a good position to develop his game compared to, God forbid, going to Ateneo. Even playing in the PBA with Gilas as a guest team is a massive step down in his development considering he was already learning in an NBA-type environment. It's way too early to say if going pro now in Japan/China/Australia will do him any good since the Sotto family are basically rooted in the Southern US (traditionally a big man factory) despite the mess that EWP made. Even scrimmaging in the Atlanta area with a lot of other ex-pros and G-League hopefuls would be better. The NBA Draft is still about 6 months away so there's always that Satnam Signh chance someone drafts him to stash him in the G-League and the rest is up to him and if all his team affiliate's bigs get injured, but anyone who genuinely believes "Brian Shaw is an idiot" or "Kai needs the ball in the post" or "bakaw silang lahat" has unfortunately fallen in love with his hype made by content creators that make the Snow Baduas of the world cringe.

 

[reamily2]

Its like were saying kai has no hope if his handlers are still ewp..

 

[geohunk2]

With all this turn of events, we are back to speculations. Lets us just wait for another official announcement from EWP and Kai.

I would blame SBP for their insistence that Kai play this window. Tab was vocal about it since last year. Smart also tried to entice them with commercials and other things. It is normal for Kai and his team to grab whatever offer come their way specially that there was prior arrangement from ignite that he could play with gilas. The greatest unfortunate thing with this is that the window and ignites sched overlap with each other. Kai might have really committed with SBP even last year.

I would believe that they are already planning his next steps after this. We only need to wait for their official announcement.

Well they (Kai and EWP) better make some sort of response soon because they certainly aren't looking too great in the eyes of everybody. Rumors or not...the alibis and excuses of skipping IGNITE to play for Gilas because he wasn't getting the minutes or touches or exposure is making him and his team look like primadonnas hate to say it..and no...no one is buying the "honoring a gilas commitment to play for country" when everyone knows he will always be welcome at Gilas in the future when the MAIN immediate goal was suppsedly make it to this years NBA draft.

 

[PeeZones2]

Well they (Kai and EWP) better make some sort of response soon because they certainly aren't looking too great in the eyes of everybody. Rumors or not...the alibis and excuses of skipping IGNITE to play for Gilas because he wasn't getting the minutes or touches or exposure is making him and his team look like primadonnas hate to say it..and no...no one is buying the "honoring a gilas commitment to play for country" when everyone knows he will always be welcome at Gilas in the future when the MAIN immediate goal was suppsedly make it to this years NBA draft.

Is a commitment to take a job as a photographer for two events bad when you have a prior agreement with the 1st client that he will allow you?lol The misfortune here was that both event coincide with each other. The best approach was that the 2nd client should give way because client 1 was the first to booked. Kai and his team tried to cater both clients unfortunately client 1 had a change of mind and would not want to disrupt their current working setup.

Your insinuation that he was primadonna or because they want more touches was pure BS. The agreements were done last year so primadonna or no touches wasn't part of equation from the get GO.

 

[reamily2]

Lol sbp commitment to okay for nt is a very bs excuse hahaha why really people here really believe its national team first before your professional contract obligations..hahaha

The more noble thing was playing for country asking permission to your professional commitments and let that employer decide if you will be allowed.or not..

 

[PeeZones2]

The likely scenario for Kai these days would be for sure he would play for Gilas 3rd window then just prepare for the draft like Kenyon Martin Jr last year. Also, they should just negotiate or talked to teams who would be interested in getting Kai.

I believe Kai would have performed better than Isiah Todd during this stint.

In everything, SBP is full of crap they were all full of personal agenda and wasn't mindful of the best interest of Kai and all basketball loving pinoys. That is also the reason teams were half-hearted supporting them kasi selfish.

Kai and his team would ALWAYS ENTERTAIN OFFERS. They need to be compensated and that is normal. Kai is the only one working for his whole family these days.

SBP wasn't para sa bayan but was always para sa promotion ng smart and MVP groups. Those greedy MVP boys from Tab to Panlilio were all after their performance and not after Kai's welfare.

 

[reamily2]

Kaya how can we do constructive criticism if guys like kobe and people around him will say suportahan na lang si Kai..

 

[reamily2]

If we believe kai will perform better than isaiab todd, malamang sa alamang mada draft siya not the ideal starting salary ewp but sureball nba lineup siya ala pokusevski..
But if he will do a draft and stash baka mabawi nya yun if he played somewhere else..

 

[PeeZones2]

If we believe kai will perform better than isaiab todd, malamang sa alamang mada draft siya not the ideal starting salary ewp but sureball nba lineup siya ala pokusevski..
But if he will do a draft and stash baka mabawi nya yun if he played somewhere else..

Kai was offered way bigger than Todd from the start. He was worth more based on their assessment. I still believe he will be drafted and get relegated to play in the Gleague for 1 to 2 years. Kenyon Martin Jr. was drafted just playing AAU ball with IMG. Kai has way bigger upside than him on my opinion.

 

[reamily2]

Kai was offered way bigger than Todd from the start. He was worth more based on their assessment. I believe still he will be drafted and get relegated to play in the Gleague for 1 to 2 years. Kenyon Martin Jr. was drafted even if only playing AAU ball with IMG. Kai has way bigger upside than him on my opinion.

Ayun na nga problema he was asseses to be worth more than Isaiah Todd, umalis pa..Todd did make quite a decision decomitting with juawn howard who has ties with miami michigan team for the ignite team..eh yun kulanv ng heat ngayun yin bish like stretch 4..

 

[PeeZones2]

Ayun na nga problema he was asseses to be worth more than Isaiah Todd, umalis pa..

Umalis kasi may offer din na iba aanhin mu yan naipit tuloy. Wala namang dates lahat yang Ignite and Fiba last year when those were offered. Kai, his family and EWP would least likely to turn down SBP. It was their main benefactor all these years. Delikadeza dapat ng SBP na pinaubaya si Kai sa Ignite. Nauna naman ang Ignite and this window was so unimportant and with all the difficulties in travelling. Gusto kasi nila na manalo sa Korea at the expense of Kai and for sure ang habol na bonus ng mga MVP boys.

 

[reamily2]

Umalis kasi may offer din na iba aanhin mu yan naipit tuloy. Wala namang dates lahat yang Ignite and Fiba last year when those were offered. Kai, his family and EWP would least likely to turn down SBP. It was their main benefactor all these years. Delikadeza dapat ng SBP na pinaubaya si Kai sa Ignite. Nauna naman ang Ignite and this window was so unimportant and with all the difficulties in travelling. Gusto kasi nila na manalo sa Korea at the expense of Kai and for sure ang habol na bonus ng mga MVP boys.

Hahahha on a no bearing game..

 

[reamily2]

Hay sbp...

 

[PeeZones2]

Hahahha on a no bearing game..

No bearing and just for personal motives of the MVP boys. Tab was all over the internet about it last year. From the moment Kai signed with Ignite, he was on a tirade to put pressure on Kai and his team. It is obvious Kai will be the cornerstone of our Gilas NT during 2023 but the first agenda should be that he enters NBA first. The rest should just follow.

 

[CoJ2]

Hay sbp...

SBP, though part of the problem is just a convenient scapegoat for this huge setback, EWP, Ervin Sotto and even the kid himself are liable as well. So thus media and those freaking vloggers who hyped the kid too much thus putting all those super high expectations which became a distraction

 

[geohunk2]

Umalis kasi may offer din na iba aanhin mu yan naipit tuloy. Wala namang dates lahat yang Ignite and Fiba last year when those were offered. Kai, his family and EWP would least likely to turn down SBP. It was their main benefactor all these years. Delikadeza dapat ng SBP na pinaubaya si Kai sa Ignite. Nauna naman ang Ignite and this window was so unimportant and with all the difficulties in travelling. Gusto kasi nila na manalo sa Korea at the expense of Kai and for sure ang habol na bonus ng mga MVP boys.

Well whatever the excuse is it has left a VERY BAD TASTE in the mouth...and too bad it is at Kai's expense. If what your insinuating is true (prior commitment) then most if not all of the blame should go to both EWP and SBP (MVP group) for not thinking this through properly considering the travel difficulties and the proximity to G league games. They obviously were not looking at the bigger picture (NBA scout exposure and G league development.)

 

[PeeZones2]

SBP, though part of the problem is just a convenient scapegoat for this huge setback, EWP, Ervin Sotto and even the kid himself are liable as well. So thus media and those freaking vloggers who hyped the kid too much thus putting all those super high expectations which became a distraction as well.

Scapegoat?lol Kai is the only person working for their family these days. They are a family of 5 and living in the US. They would entertain all offers that would come their way. Ervin is also indebted to MVP. He was employed by MVP when kai was with Ateneo. The utang na loob is so deep more than any that Ignite could offer. Fajardo cant even play for Gilas 1 because he was indebted to University of Cebu and they were pro San Miguel. Just a comparison.

 

[geohunk2]

I still believe he will be drafted and get relegated to play in the Gleague for 1 to 2 years. Kenyon Martin Jr. was drafted just playing AAU ball with IMG. Kai has way bigger upside than him on my opinion.

So I guess I might have to update my sig at the bottom as it seems you've changed your prediction. Lol. Js kidding buddy Pee. Hahaha