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Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

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Good game!

Randall and DJ bailed them out of this one.
Some questionable 3 point attempts from Franks at the end stretch.
McCarron providing the stability with his veteran wits.

Seems like Harris taking up the role off the bench that Kai had last season.
Off the bench preference :
1. Dech (17 mins)
2. Harris (13 mins)
3. Drmic (12 mins )
4. Kai (3 mins)
5. Galloway (0)
6. Acouth (0)

With DJ and Franks practically taking up almost the entire minutes at the center and PF positions it would be very hard or impossible for Kai to get decent minutes much more the goal to get the starting spot at the middle (unless forbid injuries on the two)

All Kai can do at this point is to make good of every second he is on the floor starting on the defensive side: Crash every board, contest every shot and go aggressive on offense.

After his maiden season where he was able to make do out of pick and rolls and lob passes, which every team in the NBL is now aware of, he must diversify to be relevant.

He is too light to be in the middle and too slow to play the perimeter.

He needs to put on some weight the be a more effective defensive stopper at the middle and a post threat OR vastly improve his shooting touch if he plans to play in the perimeter.

He should make himself a valuable rotational player to earn more minutes or else he will ride the bench all season long.

At his current rate it seems he's moving behind farther away to be competitive for the NBL level much more NBA level.


Reality bites. Something a lot of Filipino fans can't seem to accept. I guess a product of american colonialism na din na porke't style of play natin parang sa kano eh kala nila ganun kalapit yung gap ng level of play.
 
Just a comparison para sa mga crabby.haha May link para CLEAR.haha It is obvious based on the DATA that players would need to transfer to a team that would trust and used them.hahaha

Marc Gasol stat at age 19 to 21
https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/marc-gasol-1.html

19yr old 6.8min 1.5reb 1.2pts Winterthur FC Barcelona
20yr old 16.7min 4reb 5pts Winterthur FC Barcelona
21yr old 7.4 min 1.3 reb 3.1pts Winterthur FC Barcelona
At age 22 he transferred to another team and that is where he started to get good numbers.haha Team fit will always be a factor for every player.

Victor Webanyama stat last yr
https://www.euroleaguebasketball.net/euroleague/players/victor-wembanyama/009553/

EuroLeague 17:29min 6.5pts 3.8reb 1.3TO
EuroCup 6:01min 0.8pts 1.5reb

Kai Sotto https://nbl.com.au/player/3682/1668069/kai-sotto
19yr old 15.26min 7.52pts 4.48rebs

Clearly kai is producing more than both wemby and Gasol at almost the same age if given ample playing time!haha Facts are facts. When Victor wasn't producing great numbers with Tony Parker's team, his handlers transferred Wemby to his current team. I am expecting that Wass will transfer Kai to a team where he will showcase himself.haha

Ano na negatrons?haha Im giving up this NBL season and Kai should just preserve himself. Hopefully, he will play with Gilas this coming windows.haha

The game has changed daw!haha The NBA is currently loading up with bigs. It is either you will go small ball or tall ball. Stick with non bball takes Cocoy!haha

Ano kaya mga rebuttal ng mga negatrons!haha Brainstorm muna kayu tsaka obvious marami ding games na sobrang limited laro ni Wemby at Gasol sa prior teams nila.hahaha
 
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Just a comparison para sa mga crabby.haha May link para CLEAR.haha It is obvious based on the DATA that players would need to transfer to a team that would trust and used them.hahaha

Marc Gasol stat at age 19 to 21
https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/marc-gasol-1.html

19yr old 6.8min 1.5reb 1.2pts Winterthur FC Barcelona
20yr old 16.7min 4reb 5pts Winterthur FC Barcelona
21yr old 7.4 min 1.3 reb 3.1pts Winterthur FC Barcelona
At age 22 he transferred to another team and that is where he started to get good numbers.haha Team fit will always be a factor for every player.

Victor Webanyama stat last yr
https://www.euroleaguebasketball.net/euroleague/players/victor-wembanyama/009553/

EuroLeague 17:29min 6.5pts 3.8reb 1.3TO
EuroCup 6:01min 0.8pts 1.5reb

Kai Sotto https://nbl.com.au/player/3682/1668069/kai-sotto
19yr old 15.26min 7.52pts 4.48rebs

Clearly kai is producing more than both wemby and Gasol at almost the same age if given ample playing time!haha Facts are facts. When Victor wasn't producing great numbers with Tony Parker's team, his handlers transferred Wemby to his current team. I am expecting that Wass will transfer Kai to a team where he will showcase himself.haha

Ano na negatrons?haha Im giving up this NBL season and Kai should just preserve himself. Hopefully, he will play with Gilas this coming windows.haha

The game has changed daw!haha The NBA is currently loading up with bigs. It is either you will go small ball or tall ball. Stick with non bball takes Cocoy!haha

Ano kaya mga rebuttal ng mga negatrons!haha Brainstorm muna kayu tsaka obvious marami ding games na sobrang limited laro ni Wemby at Gasol sa prior teams nila.hahaha

Ahhh music to my ears haha

Love this. Someone who made the research and affirm my belief.

How CJ look at Kai Sotto (HARRIS > KAI) LOL

There is no future for Kai in coach CJ. Still better for Kai to finish his contract this season to show his professionalism.

Also Kai is the breadwinner of his family who are also now living in Australia. So he can't really do much right now in his career moves.

What he can request is to allow him to play for FIBA november window. I believe Mitch and Harris will also be allowed to play for boomers and tall blacks respectively

this upcoming window. No reason for CJ not to allow Kai unless if CJ is really an A-HOLE who would hold Kai back. Imagine allowing his starter and regular rotation players

to playin FIBA but not his DNP player Kai Sotto. That really is something else.
 
European Leagues > NBL

I am expecting that you will rebut his argument with some hard data and facts also.

But all you do is lame arguments with no substance haha

Do better mate.

Also I'm no racist. I only stated what is true and based on my observation. Fact only sorry if it hurts some half Filipinos here

who knows nothing about being true Filipino haha.
 
If Kai had stayed in GLeague Ignite team he would have ended up

with the same treatment with coach Brian Shaw a DNP player lol.

That is why I have trust issue with black and bald coaches who speaks a lot of good things about a player during presscon or interview

but different outcome during gametime haha.

Chot Reyes > Coach CJ for Kai's career right now.

More opportunity for Kai to play in FIBA senior team the better for his career.
 
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so from Kai being more skilled than legends like duncan and yao to the next gen marc gasol?

peenoise really have no idea about the level of competition of each league and thinks that everything is on equal standing. Again Marc at a young age played aau and high school ball in the US and spent his teen years training in europe while Kai spent his teen years in ateneo. Gasol is galaxies away in terms of development when he was the same age as kai.
 
so from Kai being more skilled than legends like duncan and yao to the next gen marc gasol?

peenoise really have no idea about the level of competition of each league and thinks that everything is on equal standing. Again Marc at a young age played aau and high school ball in the US and spent his teen years training in europe while Kai spent his teen years in ateneo. Gasol is galaxies away in terms of development when he was the same age as kai.

The problem with this argument is you can't prove this theory haha

It's like the whole argument of who is the goat MJ, Kareem, Lebron, Kobe etc lol

Unless they all played against each other things will not be proven. So all are just theory and belief.

I for one would consider Dirk as my goat because I am biased haha.
 
European Leagues > NBL

Negatrons = lame takes

Current NBL isnt lacking of competitiveness. They may lack budget but their quality is equal to the euroleague. Nbl teams went toe to toe with NBA teams and was not overwhelm. Add-on lang na ang Sokor at Leb NT were lesser than NBL teams, Sokor beat NZ NT on their homecourt while Leb was just beaten by NBL all stars by a very slim margin.haha

Regarding Marc Gasol, he was too ordinary in highschool while 17yr old Kai was so dominant with TSF. Marc had great stats in his senior yr just because of sheer size but isnt viewed as a good college prospect. Kai was also a standout in world youth tournaments. Itong mga negatrons puro lang mali mali sinasabi napapahiya tuloy.haha ill post an article nabasa ko yan dati.haha

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2357809-memphis-main-man-how-big-macs-blues-city-made-marc-gasol-nbas-top-center.amp.html

Akala pa naman ng mga negatrons fiesta na.haha there is beauty in the grind and journey. It is not end of the road for Kai only deadends for negatrons.haha
 
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There is a certain Nathan Villamayor who replies to all Kai's supporter in NBL and Adelaide fb page haha.

I hope this is not Kokoy Martin because it is creeping me out lol.

It's like he versus the world out there on that fb page haha.
 
The problem with this argument is you can't prove this theory haha

It's like the whole argument of who is the goat MJ, Kareem, Lebron, Kobe etc lol

Unless they all played against each other things will not be proven. So all are just theory and belief.

I for one would consider Dirk as my goat because I am biased haha.

Not really. I don't think those guys went undrafted. In fact most of the guys that I remember Kai was supposedly outskilled are drafted in the top 5. Heck he was supposedly a better player than the Chets, Bancheros, Mobleys, Wisemans, Porzingis, etc ie recent bigmen drafted in lottery. Now Wemby is getting the same treatment.
 
Wembanyama at 16/17 before he transferred teams was already getting best prospect in the world and best prospect in Europe even with whatever stats. It’s less about stats and more what skills and abilities transfer over to the NBA.
 
Wembanyama at 16/17 before he transferred teams was already getting best prospect in the world and best prospect in Europe even with whatever stats. It?s less about stats and more what skills and abilities transfer over to the NBA.

This! I was quite optimistic before when Kai was still 16-18 yrs old that he will be drafted in the NBA when he is eligible. But as of the moment, he would be a liability to a team in the NBA and that is the truth. Unless he improves his body and skillset, I cannot see him in an NBA uniform. If he would transfer in Europe, he still wouldn't get minutes. I think CJ has seen enough in practices, he is playing the guys that would give him the best chance of winning. We cant blame him because his job is on the line too, he needs to win. His job is not to follow Pinoy fans wishes.
 
Rise of bigs again in the NBA.

Good game and fun to watch. Bigs versus bigs. Twin towers versus twin towers.

Utah Jazz twin towers of Markannen and Olynyk won against Timberwolves twin towers of Gobert and KAT

Who would have thought? All the NBA sport analyst were already pretty sure that Utah was tanking for Wemby lottery haha
 
Not really. I don't think those guys went undrafted. In fact most of the guys that I remember Kai was supposedly outskilled are drafted in the top 5. Heck he was supposedly a better player than the Chets, Bancheros, Mobleys, Wisemans, Porzingis, etc ie recent bigmen drafted in lottery. Now Wemby is getting the same treatment.

I did not get your point.

I think your basis is based on your uneducated and biased opinion only.

I say Dirk was drafted in the lottery and I am pretty biased that Dirk is my goat period haha
 
This! I was quite optimistic before when Kai was still 16-18 yrs old that he will be drafted in the NBA when he is eligible. But as of the moment, he would be a liability to a team in the NBA and that is the truth. Unless he improves his body and skillset, I cannot see him in an NBA uniform. If he would transfer in Europe, he still wouldn't get minutes. I think CJ has seen enough in practices, he is playing the guys that would give him the best chance of winning. We cant blame him because his job is on the line too, he needs to win. His job is not to follow Pinoy fans wishes.

if Kai trained/transferred to europe around that age (or even younger) he would have been a nba level talent. mind you nba scouts monitor kids as early as 14-15 yrs old.
 
Wembanyama at 16/17 before he transferred teams was already getting best prospect in the world and best prospect in Europe even with whatever stats. It’s less about stats and more what skills and abilities transfer over to the NBA.

When you look at stats you become more objective and unbiased opinion.

But if you see based on how he shoot the ball, smooth fluid blah blah that becomes an opinion.

Opinion most of the times are biased and subjective on how you feel.

Well I feel right now Kai is better than Chet and Wemby haha

That is a god damn biased opinion for me right there haha.
 
This! I was quite optimistic before when Kai was still 16-18 yrs old that he will be drafted in the NBA when he is eligible. But as of the moment, he would be a liability to a team in the NBA and that is the truth. Unless he improves his body and skillset, I cannot see him in an NBA uniform. If he would transfer in Europe, he still wouldn't get minutes. I think CJ has seen enough in practices, he is playing the guys that would give him the best chance of winning. We cant blame him because his job is on the line too, he needs to win. His job is not to follow Pinoy fans wishes.

true, Kai can go to Gilas and average 20ppg 35 mins and scouts won't bat an eye - until he improves on his fundamental deficiencies, he is liability to an NBA team
 
How about those who were insisting that Kai should avg at least 10rebs per game to be considered NBA ready?hahaha

7'1 Marc Gasol and much heavier cant even avg 4rebs prior to turning 22 while 7'4 Wemby last year was averaging 3+ rebs per game.haha

The insistence that Kai is too far from Wemby and Chet really doesnt hold too much substance based on actuals stats. It is the innate biased by commenters that were so prominent. Both wemby and chet only had the opportunities and the hype with them.

To insist that those two acting like 7foot durants are sure thing NBA stars are all stupid. Even though the NBA is an easier league, both should need to hold their ground against wide bodied bigs of the NBA. I have seen Kai withstand the dirty tactics of the NBL and have stood his ground against 300lb behemoth Nathan Jawaii. Wemby/Chet will need to show that they will be okay after playing Zion and the NBA bigs.haha

Chet is nearer to a bust than anything these days. Wass will only need to give Kai opportunities and Kai will show his numbers and capabilities.

For sure Caffaro will be shelved in the oblivion forever and that is the greatest fact all these time Cocoy!haha

We will also wait for Kai to face Harris and NZ NT against Gilas.hahaha
 
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