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DAdmiral2
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It's just facts, might be trivial in the Philippines, but absolutely matters in the scheme of things , it is really what teams ask when thinking about recruiting Kai. Ganoon talaga yung reality
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It's just facts, might be trivial in the Philippines, but absolutely matters in the scheme of things , it is really what teams ask when thinking about recruiting Kai. Ganoon talaga yung reality
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DAdmiral2
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How's it not fact that kai graduated from High school in May 2021 , yet was being presented to college schools for enrollment in August 2020 ? (FACT). then he joined Ignite with the assumption that he was already a HS graduate ( a requirement to join Ignite )
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mathematicianrcg2
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If the goal is limited to being drafted in 2022 alone , yes, but if the goal is to simply being drafted regardless of years, NO, it's a significant disadvantage , as one does not have option to choose the draft when teams have available draft picks to use on a player with Kai's attributes . It also has implications on roster spots per team.. that is why as an example the Spurs trade current picks for future picks to manage roster intake
Well, the goal (only possible goal in terms of draft) right now is 2022.
I think Kai's chances of being drafted is lesser in 2023 and 2024 compared to 2021 or 2022. Just because of age.
Anyway, lets just focus on 2022 Draft events. About 17 days before Draft Combine. If Kai is not invited, then EWP and his agent should do their job selling Kai to Nba Teams. I think may connection naman yan sa Nba si Bell, even though he is not a super agent like goodwin.
Drafr will be in June 23. 2 Months Prep and Time to Sell Yourself more for Kai.
Thoughz he already showed something in NBL.
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DAdmiral2
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I agree those are very plausible scenarios
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DAdmiral2
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Man that's all water under the bridge just let it go
Yes it is past, but it amplifies Bell's recent dishonest statement (strike 2).. e.g. he needs to declare by April 23
Trust matters , especially when connected to those 2 statement made , are many teams want to draft Kai. If you were an executive, what would you make of those statements , given how Bell is to be incentivesed? Hard to trust and know what to believe .
So absolutely past history does matter and is relevant
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DAdmiral2
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Why is sach religious to put Kai compared to Jay , while Makur Maker who shoots 3s , handles the ball averages similar to Kai but for a finals bound team and is ranked 98th , 1 spot ahead of Kai fine to be considered at that radar 98th rank long shot.
They're all in similar radar and boat together with Travers.
All long shots... why do we have to single out Kai as the only one where mocks got wrong .. ?
They're all in similar radar and boat together with Travers.
All long shots... why do we have to single out Kai as the only one where mocks got wrong .. ?
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jasper2222
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Why are people agreeing with the Jay Huff comparison? Kai doesn't even play like Jay Huff. You might as well have compared him to Frank Kaminsky. He's also what, 4 years older than Kai? But still has a slim frame? Meanwhile our literal boy is banging down with giants in the most physical pro league in the world. Horrible comparison, humanap lang ng draft pick with similar height and wingspan.
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C2Hamm2
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Why are people agreeing with the Jay Huff comparison? Kai doesn't even play like Jay Huff. You might as well have compared him to Frank Kaminsky. He's also what, 4 years older than Kai? But still has a slim frame? Meanwhile our literal boy is banging down with giants in the most physical pro league in the world. Horrible comparison, humanap lang ng draft pick with similar height and wingspan.
frame aside, I mentioned a year or 2 ago that Kai is similar to Raef Lafrentz offensively. i think only 1 person replied telling me noone will reply since I compared Kai to a non all star. i still think they have alot of similarity though if memory serves me right, Raef was a bit more aggressive on the defensive side of things. i dont see why Kai can't be on that level and do the same things.
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DAdmiral2
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I don't know Jay Huff, I'm referring to propect radar ratings , Makur, Kai, Travers are all different players but they're are all in the same boat as far as chances to be drafted. Long shot.
No one has issues with Maker and Travers being long shots . Kai is in the same boat regardless of his different skill set
No one has issues with Maker and Travers being long shots . Kai is in the same boat regardless of his different skill set
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jasper2222
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frame aside, I mentioned a year or 2 ago that Kai is similar to Raef Lafrentz offensively. i think only 1 person replied telling me noone will reply since I compared Kai to a non all star. i still think they have alot of similarity though if memory serves me right, Raef was a bit more aggressive on the defensive side of things. i dont see why Kai can't be on that level and do the same things.
Oh yeah him. I don't know if I was there during that discussion, but I agree with you. Though Kai has the potential to be better if he refines his passing game, and that will only happen if Kai becomes an offensive threat himself.
I don't know Jay Huff, I'm referring to propect radar ratings , Makur, Kai, Travers are all different players but they're are all in the same boat as far as chances to be drafted. Long shot.
No one has issues with Maker and Travers being long shots . Kai is in the same boat regardless of his different skill set
Again, for me alone since I don't speak for other people, I also think Maker and Travers should be high up in the draft. Mojave King, all them prospects. I just talk about Kai because this is the Kai thread.
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“He would have been drafted last year if he had been able to be in the draft. He'll be drafted this year if he chooses to remain in the draft,” Bell told Philstar.com. “We don't know [which round] exactly right now, but we have some assurances that he would be drafted.”
Sotto’s combination of size and skillset is what intrigued NBA teams.
“He's [a] perfect [big man] for the modern NBA. He can shoot the ball from the outside. He can put it on the floor. He can play,” Bell said.
https://www.philstar.com/sports/202...-says-nba-teams-committed-draft-prospect/amp/
Sotto’s combination of size and skillset is what intrigued NBA teams.
“He's [a] perfect [big man] for the modern NBA. He can shoot the ball from the outside. He can put it on the floor. He can play,” Bell said.
https://www.philstar.com/sports/202...-says-nba-teams-committed-draft-prospect/amp/
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C2Hamm2
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Oh yeah him. I don't know if I was there during that discussion, but I agree with you. Though Kai has the potential to be better if he refines his passing game, and that will only happen if Kai becomes an offensive threat himself.
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of course Kai can be better. the science on the sport has grown and this helps all athletes. he is young, so much room to improve. but, even with little skill improvement, he has NBA useable skills. how he copes up with how the game is played in the NBA is what I want to see\watch. if he cant play at NBA pace, despite the skill and potential, we have to be realistic that he might not be able to be part of it. but if he can, then im sure a team will take a chance.
i posted in the other thread that Suns can take a chance on him (we dont have a pick) because we have reliable players on all positions can wait for young players to develop. Another team I feel can give him a chance is Houston. KPG and Woods arent going to stay that long there. they got value but head cases. a playoff team could potentially trade for them in the offseason and Kai can come in, maybe play in gleague for a year, and then slot in behind Sengun. if Houston is first pick and adds Chet, then we can see a Chet, Sengun, and Kai rotation with loads of very good wings. that, on paper, looks like a good base for a team who should be competitive in 3 years time. maybe veteran presence nlng lalaban na.
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DAdmiral2
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“He would have been drafted last year if he had been able to be in the draft. He'll be drafted this year if he chooses to remain in the draft,” Bell told Philstar.com. “We don't know [which round] exactly right now, but we have some assurances that he would be drafted.”
Sotto’s combination of size and skillset is what intrigued NBA teams.
“He's [a] perfect [big man] for the modern NBA. He can shoot the ball from the outside. He can put it on the floor. He can play,” Bell said.
https://www.philstar.com/sports/202...-says-nba-teams-committed-draft-prospect/amp/
Let's hope Bell is right that time or else he has a lot of explaining to do .
He's already zero out of 2 in providing misinformation with an obvious motive for his client . Good luck with executives believing the sales pitch.
And yes I'm not pretending, I'm litterarally calling out agent Bell for his BS. Please inform the Sotto camp of my actions. I honestly think it's better for them to fire Bell.. considering Bell's (not Kai's family) the booboos (they're not trivial mistakes at all)
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jasper2222
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of course Kai can be better. the science on the sport has grown and this helps all athletes. he is young, so much room to improve. but, even with little skill improvement, he has NBA useable skills. how he copes up with how the game is played in the NBA is what I want to see\watch. if he cant play at NBA pace, despite the skill and potential, we have to be realistic that he might not be able to be part of it. but if he can, then im sure a team will take a chance.
i posted in the other thread that Suns can take a chance on him (we dont have a pick) because we have reliable players on all positions can wait for young players to develop. Another team I feel can give him a chance is Houston. KPG and Woods arent going to stay that long there. they got value but head cases. a playoff team could potentially trade for them in the offseason and Kai can come in, maybe play in gleague for a year, and then slot in behind Sengun. if Houston is first pick and adds Chet, then we can see a Chet, Sengun, and Kai rotation with loads of very good wings. that, on paper, looks like a good base for a team who should be competitive in 3 years time. maybe veteran presence nlng lalaban na.
I agree. It's up to Kai to adapt to the pace, which I'm comfortable he will. He adapted to the AAU pace coming from a team which fed him the ball, adapted to the FIBA Worlds pace coming from HS basketball, and adapted to the NBL pace coming from FIBA.
Jazz might also take Kai. They're gonna break up the Gobert/Mitchell tandem and I don't think Rudy's lasting any longer in Utah.
Ok lets compare Kai to Jokic, Duncan, Hakeem, Prozingis and Dirk that might be a more fair comparison.
Lets compare 19yo Kai's stats in the NBL to these players at the same age.
Better yet lets compare the number 1 pick to a player ranked 99 on the big boards lol.
So many delusional cunt rags in here.
Slight disagreement and you're off the handle. Slow down fat boy. You keep harping on about IQ but your EQ is so low. Money can't buy manners and you clearly don't have much of the latter.
Coach CJ Bruton playing him behind Bairstow is fair. Bairstow is a former NBA draftee and is still 29 years of age, practically in his prime. Making this a point against Kai is reaching for the stars.
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DAdmiral2
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I'm sorry . This is BS . BELL is lying again. There is no such thing as withdrawing for automatically eligible players. The CBA and history verifies this.
Yes I'm bold enough to say he's lying.
He would have been drafted last year if he had been able to be in the draft. He'll be drafted this year if he chooses to remain in the draft,” Bell told*Philstar.comSotto is scheduled to return to the US in early May to prepare for the NBA Draft. His camp has until June 13 to decide whether to stay in the draft or get another
“We will play this out and decide at the appropriate time if it's the place and the draft position he wants to go to or if he wants to wait another year. He's in a great situation. I mean, he can't lose. He's got nothing but great options right now.”
The guys a BS artist salesman.. sorry just calling it as it is.
Yes I'm bold enough to say he's lying.
He would have been drafted last year if he had been able to be in the draft. He'll be drafted this year if he chooses to remain in the draft,” Bell told*Philstar.comSotto is scheduled to return to the US in early May to prepare for the NBA Draft. His camp has until June 13 to decide whether to stay in the draft or get another
“We will play this out and decide at the appropriate time if it's the place and the draft position he wants to go to or if he wants to wait another year. He's in a great situation. I mean, he can't lose. He's got nothing but great options right now.”
The guys a BS artist salesman.. sorry just calling it as it is.
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DAdmiral2
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How do I know for sure . Automatically entered eligible players can't withdraw as Bell is suggesting.. the CBA states it ..
Note a player can only withdraw twice after declaring. If for the 3rd time say Remy Martin and Makur Maker after Automatically being entered can withdraw again, that's contradictory to the purpose of the 2 max withdrawal rule and will be a mockery.
This American Bell is looking down at Filipinos thinking he can just say anything and fool 3rd world public.
Again watch he will be proven wrong again for now the 3rd time . I'm no expert, but there such as thing as simple research of rules .. that are made to be clear
Note a player can only withdraw twice after declaring. If for the 3rd time say Remy Martin and Makur Maker after Automatically being entered can withdraw again, that's contradictory to the purpose of the 2 max withdrawal rule and will be a mockery.
This American Bell is looking down at Filipinos thinking he can just say anything and fool 3rd world public.
Again watch he will be proven wrong again for now the 3rd time . I'm no expert, but there such as thing as simple research of rules .. that are made to be clear
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I'm sorry . This is BS . BELL is lying again. There is no such thing as withdrawing for automatically eligible players. The CBA and history verifies this.
Yes I'm bold enough to say he's lying.
He would have been drafted last year if he had been able to be in the draft. He'll be drafted this year if he chooses to remain in the draft,” Bell told*Philstar.comSotto is scheduled to return to the US in early May to prepare for the NBA Draft. His camp has until June 13 to decide whether to stay in the draft or get another
“We will play this out and decide at the appropriate time if it's the place and the draft position he wants to go to or if he wants to wait another year. He's in a great situation. I mean, he can't lose. He's got nothing but great options right now.”
The guys a BS artist salesman.. sorry just calling it as it is.
This is the link.
https://www.philstar.com/sports/202...agent-says-nba-teams-committed-draft-prospect
You guys can judge. Hehe.
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jasper2222
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He was a third string centre coming in and was projected to get 5 mins a game before Humphries went down.
You guys seem to question why no plays were run for Kai or why they didn't throw him the ball in the post, answer is because he definitely was exposed at team practices on the daily.
When Bairstow went down CJ gave Kai an opportunity at the starting Centre spot but he failed miserably with sub 2 point performances. From that point on Kiwi scrub Hyrum Harris got the nod in the starting 5 instead of Kai. It was his chance to impress but he couldn't live up to the pressure.
Hassan Whiteside would make Kai look silly lol. No way the Jazz would even be interested lol.
Hassan Whiteside who can't defend Aron Baynes and Frank Kaminsky? Kai should just camp at the 3 pt line for that matchup.
Kai was a 3rd string centre going into the NBL because he's an unproven rookie, that's fair.
You have zero information about their team practices.
Hyrum Harris isn't a scrub, he's a Tall Blacks member.
Joel Bell's best client is scrub Ryan Arcidiacono. That says enough about his reputation as an NBA agent lol.
Lol. Greg Monroe, Steve Blake, Terence Davis, Deanthony Melton.
You have a talent for distorting information.
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Silent Killer2
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Hassan Whiteside who can't defend Aron Baynes and Frank Kaminsky? Kai should just camp at the 3 pt line for that matchup.
Kai was a 3rd string centre going into the NBL because he's an unproven rookie, that's fair.
You have zero information about their team practices.
Hyrum Harris isn't a scrub, he's a Tall Blacks member.
Lol. Greg Monroe, Steve Blake, Terence Davis, Deanthony Melton.
You have a talent for distorting information.
it was a blessing in disguise actually for kai to have minutes this season.. if bairstow and humphries are healthy all throughout the season, kai will probably get less minutes.. 5-10..