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Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

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Those 4 are actually Gilas Pool Level Players.

Kiefer, Thirdy, Rayray, Kobe

1. Kiefer - Most likely to play for us in Gilas 2023 WC. As the Main PG. Kiefer showing the Japan Local Guards why Philippines are so good in Guard Play.

2.Thirdy - His Lack of Outside shooting will give you doubts on including his in WC Final 12. But his athleticism, defense, and versatility will definitely give him consideration.Especially by Coach Chot.

3.Rayray - HOT TAKE: I think Rayray Parks is the Most talented among players in this list. Yes, he is. But As much as we like/love him to be in Gilas WC 2023 lineup. The Bridges are still burn between him and Coach Chot.

4.Kobe - I am really not sure. I said in the past I will take Oftana over him for Gilas. But we never know, he can improve, and be invited by Coach Chot at least in the pool.
He is still a 6'6 athletic combo forward

These 4 B league Players Overseas Experience can help our national team.

not really a hot take on parks tho.
 
Wait lang may homer sayson ba sa ibn at sinabjng yun team ni parks is decent lang? Haha chiba jets, utsonomiya at alvark lang yata ang good teams japan if ganun ang usapan
 
BRP is more individually talented but Kiefer is more useful imo.

Both players are in their first seasons in a foreign league so this should be mostly fair.

Scoring:
BRP(28 games played): 22.9 mpg makes 11.2 points on 47.7% shooting, 37.9% from deep
Kiefer(31 games played): 25.6 mpg makes 12.9 points on 41.6% shooting, 34.5% from deep

BRP is objectively a better scorer than Kiefer, the guy has a way higher ceiling when it comes to scoring if we take into account his shooting percentage for the minutes he gets.

Playmaking though(Parks is listed as an SG so this should be fine I think):
BRP: 1.9 apg, 1.2 tov, 1.64 a/t ratio
Kiefer: 5.7 apg, 2.1 tov, 2.68 a/t ratio

Kiefer is definitely the central cog in your system, even without statlines you can see how Shiga's coach needs him badly to make their offense at least functional, explains why he has a longer playing time than Parks. Which one is "better" is kinda subjective but imo controversies with his PBA team aside, Kiefer looks to be a player that is harder to skip on if you're a team scouting for talents.
 
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Kiefer compared to Togashi, a fellow high usage point guard:

Togashi(27 games played): 25.2 mpg makes 13.1 points on 40.5% shooting 32.3% from deep, 6.2 apg, 2.65 a/t ratio

Slightly more productive in scoring but this dude has been playing in this league for multiple seasons already in a top team, Kiefer's stats are already better than his in his first season in a foreign culture in a completely fresh team for him, Kiefer is really something else man.
 
BRP is more individually talented but Kiefer is more useful imo.

Both players are in their first seasons in a foreign league so this should be mostly fair.

Scoring:
BRP(28 games played): 22.9 mpg makes 11.2 points on 47.7% shooting, 37.9% from deep
Kiefer(31 games played): 25.6 mpg makes 12.9 points on 41.6% shooting, 34.5% from deep

BRP is objectively a better scorer than Kiefer, the guy has a way higher ceiling when it comes to scoring if we take into account his shooting percentage for the minutes he gets.

Playmaking though:
BRP: 1.9 apg, 1.2 tov, 1.64 a/t ratio
Kiefer: 5.7 apg, 2.1 tov, 2.68 a/t ratio

Kiefer is definitely the central cog in your system, even without statlines you can see how Shiga's coach needs him badly to make their offense at least functional, explains why he has a longer playing time than Parks. Which one is "better" is kinda subjective but imo controversies with his PBA team aside, Kiefer looks to be a player that is harder to skip on if you're a team scouting for talents.

kiefer is is more useful right now but i think that's only because he's playing for a worse team. parks, on the other hand, is playing for a good team but has seemingly a smaller role. switch their teams and i would bet parks could replicate, or even have better stats than kiefer.
 
kiefer is is more useful right now but i think that's only because he's playing for a worse team. parks, on the other hand, is playing for a good team but has seemingly a smaller role. switch their teams and i would bet parks could replicate, or even have better stats than kiefer.

Scoring wise he would definitely trump Kiefer but is scoring really all you need to give your team Ws? Yeah Kiefer's team is trash but he contributes hell of a lot for what he is given imo.
 
Scoring wise he would definitely trump Kiefer but is scoring really all you need to give your team Ws? Yeah Kiefer's team is trash but he contributes hell of a lot for what he is given imo.

Lol ever since kiefer contribute outside his scoring and assist numbers he cant even bring nlex to finals...
 
How the hell are you gonna bring a team like NLEX coached by Yeng Guiao to the finals? Let's not let our expectations get too wild here. A team consisting of Cyrus Baguiao and JR Quinahan coached by Yeng won't even win bronze in the smokey mountains, also imagine how toxic the culture around that team actually is, probably why Kiefer wants to run tf away even if it means potential lawsuits.
 
BRP is more individually talented but Kiefer is more useful imo.

Both players are in their first seasons in a foreign league so this should be mostly fair.

Scoring:
BRP(28 games played): 22.9 mpg makes 11.2 points on 47.7% shooting, 37.9% from deep
Kiefer(31 games played): 25.6 mpg makes 12.9 points on 41.6% shooting, 34.5% from deep

BRP is objectively a better scorer than Kiefer, the guy has a way higher ceiling when it comes to scoring if we take into account his shooting percentage for the minutes he gets.

Playmaking though(Parks is listed as an SG so this should be fine I think):
BRP: 1.9 apg, 1.2 tov, 1.64 a/t ratio
Kiefer: 5.7 apg, 2.1 tov, 2.68 a/t ratio

Kiefer is definitely the central cog in your system, even without statlines you can see how Shiga's coach needs him badly to make their offense at least functional, explains why he has a longer playing time than Parks. Which one is "better" is kinda subjective but imo controversies with his PBA team aside, Kiefer looks to be a player that is harder to skip on if you're a team scouting for talents.

Better in this case would mean which one is the most important cog for Gilas.

Both have made their case to be a shoo-in for any future Gilas tournament.

Sucks both of them have soured their relations with the PBA.
 
Lol ever since kiefer contribute outside his scoring and assist numbers he cant even bring nlex to finals...

SMB's bench players are better than their starers.. I don't see them going to the finals with or without Kiefer. SMC teams are stacked
 
SMB's bench players are better than their starers.. I don't see them going to the finals with or without Kiefer. SMC teams are stacked

with or without him still nlex is in the semis with a good import and will not if they dont have one..
 
Even AAU ball isn't that greedy when the 36ers froze Kai out in the 4th. Are they mad that he's the center of their marketing strategy? Probably some envy going on. But they shouldn't take it out on a kid.

This was already happening in small doses, only Mitch McCaron is actively looking for Kai when they're playing together, and Dusty Hannahs only passed Kai the ball that one time because he was in danger of committing a turnover. Avid basketball fans aren't blind, they notice stuff.

I'm confident that scouts notice this stuff, so if Kai is reading this (highly doubt it), don't feel down. I won't tell you not to feel things, but keep everything in control at least until after the game. Though at the very least you didn't throw a tantrum on the court.
 
It was actually the minutes Kai played in the 4th quarter , that Kai and 36ers outscored SEM the most. Widened the lead.

In the other quarters Kai played today he was minus..negative.


So really in the eyes of CJ who's goal.is to win, and for Kai to contribute. The 4th quarter was Kai's biggest impact to winning. Mission accomplished..
 
https://www.nba.com/news/https-www-nba-com-news-kia-mvp-ladder-march-25-edition?fbclid=IwAR3gAnJ4zjRyHsmXpvrlByp3-MqfKhJp5Yo18BcNi9TLU8J4YuuGGkgrci0

The NBA is again dominated by bigs. Recent MVP ladder shows the importance of great bigs. Really strong teams are hoarding able bigs for their playoff run.
Kai needs to overcome prejudice and jealousy from teammates. A lot of his teammates are having SJ mentality when it comes to passing to Kai. They obviously dont want Kai to take the limelight. The bright side is that even with BS teammates and no passes Kai still makes good account of himself. Sky is really the limit for Kai.

1. Embiid
2. Jokic
3. Giannis
4. Tatum
5. Luka
 
Jokic in a depleted Nuggets team has the best Net rating of the 5, meaning Nuggets play 15 pts better when he is on the court compared to when he is not . Essentially showing he is the one player his team can least afford to play without

Kai on the othehand has a negative net rating with the 36ers, meaning his team plays better when he is not on the court
 
Net rating among NBL Rookies/NS

Ariel Hukporti – 15.3
Makur Maker - 0.4
Luke Travers - 0.3
Kai Sotto - (-2.2)
Hugo Besson - (-18.5)
Mojave King - (-22)
Tom Digbeu - (-30.8)
Ousmane Dieng - (-32.7)

PER among NBL Rookies/NS

Ariel Hukporti – 24.3
Luke Travers – 18.5
Kai Sotto – 17.8
Makur Maker – 16.3
Hugo Besson – 15.4
Mojave King – 8.8
Ousmane Dieng - 5.5
Tom Digbeu – 3.5
 
kai is a very unique player with very high upside. No amount of nitpicking or BS take would change that. The NBA need great bigs and his contemporaries in the NCAA were so lame that even if Kai didnt have a great environment but still he is obviously better than them. If only Kai didnt have insecure teammates, he would easily average atleast 10. Real NBA scouts arent stupid. They know what is happening. Kaya wala kaming pake sa BS take mu analyze wala namang kwenta yan always nitpicking but very lame take. Kai will be there kitakits sa end of the season.
 
kai is a very unique player with very high upside. No amount of nitpicking or BS take would change that. The NBA need great bigs and his contemporaries in the NCAA were so lame that even if Kai didnt have a great environment but still he is obviously better than them. If only Kai didnt have insecure teammates, he would easily average atleast 10. Real NBA scouts arent stupid. They know what is happening. Kaya wala kaming pake sa BS take mu analyze wala namang kwenta yan always nitpicking but very lame take. Kai will be there kitakits sa end of the season.

Tama!! kaya lang hindi napapansin ng iscouts ang ating idolo dahil hinihila sya pababa ng mga Insecure na kakampi!!

manood muna tayo mga kasamang possibots! :cool:

 
Net rating is a team stat not a player stat. Even the worst scrub will look good net rating-wise on a great team compared to the best player on a scrub team.
 
Yup all individual stats matter for NBL and US NCAA individual awards . but matter very little in evaluating drafability for the 2022 NBA Draft
 
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