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Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

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I think it’s bolick, his contract will end next month.. and it’s no secret that he wants to play in Japan.. while wright’s contract will end in the middle of this year.. but let’s see.. don’t be surprise if these two will go both..

If Bolick and Wright decided to play elsewhere chances are it will really had a huge domino effect on some marquee players(and coaches?) who is also on the tailend of their respective contracts, that’s inevitable.
 
This thread was already on right track and getting to be objective when discussion moved to acknowledge Kai's improvement and his long term work in progress of 2 to 5 years of making the NBA undrafted.
Until Peezones enterd with these ludicrous suggestions of being better than Ariel. A draft prospect LoL (ang layo) and all this garbage . Which ultimately is actually hurting Kai with unreasonable expectations.

Let's get back to objective real discussion..
 
I'm not familiar with the PBA rules. Have there ever been any 19 year old or 20 year olds that have dominated in the league? Aren't normal rookies like 24 or 25?

Apparently CJ Perez was a 25 year old rookie around the time of the last FIBA world cup. I couldn't believe it when the commentator said that. Hard for players to develop as pros when they are rookies at 25, when european prospects play first division pro at 16-17 years of age.

Actually none because prior to this rule, the youngest player we can have are the likes of Danny Seigle (22), Mark Caguioa (22), James Yap (22), Jason Castro (22), Kerby Raymundo (19), and Terrence Romeo (21).

Despite being 19, at 7'3, Kai can easily dominate the PBA. He has good BBIQ, mobility and skills for PBA standards.
 
This thread was already on right track and getting to be objective when discussion moved to acknowledge Kai's improvement and his long term work in progress of 2 to 5 years of making the NBA undrafted.
Until Peezones enterd with these ludicrous suggestions of being better than Ariel. A draft prospect LoL (ang layo) and all this garbage . Which ultimately is actually hurting Kai with unreasonable expectations.

Let's get back to objective real discussion..

Actually, the gap between Hukporti and Kai is pretty huge against our kababayan. Hukporti played less minutes than Kai but he contributed more against his minutes played.
 
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let's assume IH is out for a month .

as a coach how would you use Kai ( next 5 games?) hmm
yesterday's game is an indication : 15 min as main back up to Cam

defense is obvious need to get back in transition and cover PNR

but on offense , is kai purely an off the ball operator ? put backs and hard rolls ? and possbily a faciltator from top ?
 
Actually, the gap between Hukporti and Kai is pretty huge against our kababayan. Hukporti played less minutes than Kai but his contributed more against his minutes played.

double the ponts, no miseed assignments and Ariel's points were not put backs but iso one on one created his own shots ( malayo)
 
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If he wanted to play in the PBA right now would it even be possible? Isn't there an age limit for rookies or something?

To answer this question, I don't think Kai can play in the PBA right now even if he tried. He hasn't played a single game of college ball, so he'll only be draft-eligible by 2024.
 
The Important thing is the kid are doing what is best moving forward…keep on grinding.
 
Honestly if anyone was 7ft 3 and started playing basketball yesterday they would probably dominate in a league like the PBA on sheer size standards.

Especially in a league with an All-Filipino tournament and another tournament that sets a 6'5"-6'6" height limit for imports, which leaves most of the competition at center to 6'5"-6'8" players.

I'd argue that this player policy hurts the development our our bigs. That's why I'm advocating for our high-upside bigs to play abroad, and that's why it's good that Kai went to the NBL. Taller and/or more athletic competition at center, which might force our 6'8" or under bigs to play another position.
 
I seriously think you are a legit crack baby, or alternatively you must be the most delusional fanatic of all time.

So apparently Hukporti and Banchero can't get any stronger and athletic? They have reached there physical peak and can't make any more improvement but they are only 19 years old?

Chet Holmgren will slow down if he adds any muscle to his frame, but apparently Kai Sotto is immune to slowing down if he adds muscle to his frame? Not sure how that works? Seems like selective bias to me.

Kai is now being compared to 3 time defensive player of the year and one of the best defensive centres of all time? First of all Gobert's wingspan is way way bigger than Kai, not even comparable in the slightest.

Kai is being compared to Jokic one of the best offensive centres of all time? Did you even see Kai's assist that went beautifully to the person sitting in the 3rd row stands lol?

Please please Cris Ian Pizon stop sniffing that petrol. The fumes will fuck up your already deluded brain.

Will repeat again so it might get through to you this time, Kai Sotto is not a serious 2022 NBA Draft prospect.

Kung di ka naman kasi bugok yung parents ni kai malalaki ang katawan both sides. Nung 12 years old si kai yung legs niyan malaki na. Yung chet holgrem 19yrs old na yung ankle ang legs sobra pading nipis. Magisip ka din kasi. Kaya ka wla kang kwenta dami mung panahon manira ng tao. Concentrate ka nalang sa sarili kailangan mu yan keysa puro ka inggit sa katawan.

Yang hukporti and banchero near peak form nayan unless gusto mung maging body builder ang dalawa kaya need pa magpalaki. Bobo mu talaga.
 
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36ers are not part of EWP. You said EWP said they need to nominate Kai's entry. Show me where is that written ? That EWP said this

On the contrary time on time I'm correct. You just use that narrative and make up stories by putting words in my mouth tonsuggest I was wrong . The error I have are the same errors Kai's camp and others that thought he graduated in 2020. That's all. But you're making it out as we predicted wrong. Again lieing and misleading. On the contrary its You that totally are providing misinformation. Such as it's the contract terms with Ignite that is basis for draft entry ,that non early entrant already eligible have to declare BS. . That Kai is a international draft prospect. That Kai was not accessed as a non next star. That Kai is.thr highest paid 36er . It's all lies BS and misinformation..
Now who is time and time wrong..
Don't even let me start with your false prediction. Like Kai willnave 25 min. At least 15 pts etc etc . It's total BS ..
Being wrong in predictions is OK cause it's just lack of understanding but lieing and misinformation makes you a liar and dishonest . All of that's on your record . Your a master bull shit artist.. and when exposed. You give excuses that your not an expert in some stuff. What a dishonest liar.

Claim mu nalang yan analyze your a nobody than real agents and legit professional teams.lol Nakakatawa only fools would believe your claim over statements of EWP or ADLs GM. You dont even know me.haha ako lier ikaw lang tung ang claim may insider info. All im stating hear were statements from legit sources and not my own opinion and always with reference.

Your too arrogant to claim that EWP doesnt know what their doing. Nakakatawa ka. Try harder.
 
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I'm not familiar with the PBA rules. Have there ever been any 19 year old or 20 year olds that have dominated in the league? Aren't normal rookies like 24 or 25?

Apparently CJ Perez was a 25 year old rookie around the time of the last FIBA world cup. I couldn't believe it when the commentator said that. Hard for players to develop as pros when they are rookies at 25, when european prospects play first division pro at 16-17 years of age.

Actually none because prior to this rule, the youngest player we can have are the likes of Danny Seigle (22), Mark Caguioa (22), James Yap (22), Jason Castro (22), Kerby Raymundo (19), and Terrence Romeo (21).

Despite being 19, at 7'3, Kai can easily dominate the PBA. He has good BBIQ, mobility and skills for PBA standards.

This is due to a lot of factors, actually.

1. Players overstay sometimes in college. Can't blame them, as this is their best chance to get money, given the allegedly huge stipends and bonuses paid to the athletes.

2. Not many PBA teams would be willing to take raw 19-year-olds. Most prefer finished products instead of developing players.

I think these are two main reasons why we see a lot of 24-29 year old rookies.
 
Actually, the gap between Hukporti and Kai is pretty huge against our kababayan. Hukporti played less minutes than Kai but he contributed more against his minutes played.

More importantly his team got the win. The game was already over when Kai got inserted in the 4th and got his 4 points..
 
You're trying to change the point , you claimed EWP said Kai needs to declare (early) to be eligible to be selected by NBA teams, ( a total contradiction to explicit CBA rules), again show me for the nth time when EWP claimed this. if they did they're actually breaking the rules... this is common knowledge, early declaration are only for those who have yet reached their eligibility default class. (2022 for Kai). , why is this common well accepted protocol rule so hard for you to understand? It's basic stuff.
 
I'm not familiar with the PBA rules. Have there ever been any 19 year old or 20 year olds that have dominated in the league? Aren't normal rookies like 24 or 25?

Apparently CJ Perez was a 25 year old rookie around the time of the last FIBA world cup. I couldn't believe it when the commentator said that. Hard for players to develop as pros when they are rookies at 25, when european prospects play first division pro at 16-17 years of age.

last player who played in the PBA at age 19 was Kerby Raymundo, but they had to suspend Kerby and forfeit Red Bull's games since he didn't graduate high school in 1996 (minimum age requirement something i think, or even the lack of college units were cited)
 
You're trying to change the point , you claimed EWP said Kai needs to declare (early) to be eligible to be selected by NBA teams, ( a total contradiction to explicit CBA rules), again show me for the nth time when EWP claimed this. if they did they're actually breaking the rules... this is common knowledge, early declaration are only for those who have yet reached their eligibility default class. (2022 for Kai). , why is this common well accepted protocol rule so hard for you to understand? It's basic stuff.

Di ka ba nagbabasa sabi ko sinabi ni Van Gronigen yan tagal mu naman paintindihin. Pinost konyung article dito problema mu na kung di ka nagbasa or yung understanding mu palyado same sa mga dooms day predictions mu. Yung trail ng mali mu all IBN great level. Alangan naman magsinungaling yung GM ng ADL. Iba ka din kung ikaw pa magclaim.na mas tama ka sa kanila.haha

Ikaw na maghanap sa article wala akong panahon kakaargue sayu puro naman yan sablay yang opinions mu.lol
 
Van Gronigen is NoT part of EWP , you said EWP claimed it ! don't change the topic

People who can get it wrong are people who do not have the full context of information, Van doesn't necessary know Kai's US status, additionally nominate can mean focus on 2023 draft , which is not declare
The bottom line is this, you're contradicting the explicit clear rules of the CBA, and you using vague statements from 3rd party ( Van) 0f 36ers to justify that the rules require declaration for players who are already eligible. That's pure stupidity

that's like saying the constitution of the Philippines does not allow death penalty because a 3rd party foreigner representing a pinoy client vaguely referenced it in an interview. , ridiculous

enough of your BS. totally exposed
 
Van Gronigen is NoT part of EWP , you said EWP claimed it ! don't change the topic

People who can get it wrong are people who do not have the full context of information, Van doesn't necessary know Kai's US status, additionally nominate can mean focus on 2023 draft , which is not declare
The bottom line is this, you're contradicting the explicit clear rules of the CBA, and you using vague statements from 3rd party ( Van) 0f 36ers to justify that the rules require declaration for players who are already eligible. That's pure stupidity

that's like saying the constitution of the Philippines does not allow death penalty because a 3rd party foreigner representing a pinoy client vaguely referenced it in an interview. , ridiculous

enough of your BS. totally exposed

How can he not know?lol He sent two draft picks to the NBA! nakakahiya and pagmamarunong mo!lol Will see by May if who is right.haha Your claiming that you are more reliable than them okay.lol ADL is very interested and would benefit from Kai's drafting to the NBA. Ika nga ni Van Gronigen it would depend on Kai's development maybe after 6months or more but he will be in the NBA eventually.lol

But I will tell you Kai will apply this year.lol He is showcasing early than expected two decent games highlighting his defense and athletic ability.haha Those other aspects would be shown eventually. Iiyak tung si analyze.lol
 
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Tell of the tape peak form RUDY as compare to kai.

RUDY GOBERT
Position: Center · Shoots: Right
Height: 7-1 · Weight: 245
Wingpsan: 7-8.5 · Standing Reach: 9-7
Hand Length: 9.75 · Hand Width: 10
Born: June 26, 1992
Hometown: Saint-Quentin, France
Prior to NBA: Cholet Basket
Drafted: 2013—Round 1, Pick 27 (DEN)
NBA Debut: October 30, 2013

Kai Sotto
Position: Center · Shoots: Right and left
Height: 7-3 · Weight: 235
Wingpsan: 7-5/6 · Standing Reach: 9-5/6
Hand Length: n/a · Hand Width: n/a
Born: May 2002

ALWAYS WITH REFERENCE.

https://www.nba.com/jazz/roster/rudy-gobert

Almost same built, same height, same athleticism and mobility. Even almost similar to the way they ran the floor. Stamina Gobert better, fake discipline Gobert average while Kai is great rarely fooled by fakes.

Projection were for UPSIDE. I don't prefer Porzingis comparison maybe with height, athleticism and mobility but Kai is nearer to Gobert in totality. On defense Kai could target or equal Gobert. He has all the tools for it. Volleyball player nga ng ADL.lol Kung di niyu makita problema niyu na yun. Stick with Hadaddi comparison or better yet stick with Givony's comp which was Harry Froling.lol
 
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Ayan manuod kayu para makita niyu kailan nakadikit yung ADL main reason nung pinasok si Kai.lol They were able to defend better when Kai was around. They cant play MELB with just purely playing offense because MELB is way better in that department.

3:16 sabay ngsprint si AH and Kai akala ko ba mabilis yung Hukporti.lol Mas madali lang mapagod si Kai totoo yan. Yung scores ni Kai clearly pure own effort against double team/triple team.lol Mas involve lang sa offense yung Hukporti kasi may chemistry na sa kakampi. Eventually as they play along Kai will receive passes from the others. Magkakaamuyan din yan ngayun confuse pa sila sa tendencies yung mitch ALWAYS mababa ang pasa kay Kai sa roll.
 
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