Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

[IPC2]

Kai not a serious draft prospect for the 2022 NBA draft and won't tear up the NBL.

The PBA is still major trash.

Yep, you were hella trolling when you once said the PBA is a prestigious league and is stronger than the third division in Europe. The PBA needs an overhaul, big time. Not just the system, but the culture there as well. Not really that conducive for development.

 

[Silent Killer2]

I think it is unlikely he will get minutes against Melbourne tomorrow. I think CJ will keep Bairstow in the starting line up and Humphries continues to come of the bench. Even if Kai does get some playing time he will have to go up against the physically imposing Hukporti and I think Kai will really struggle in that match up.

I think Kai will have a better chance to get minutes on Monday night against the Illawarra Hawks. If Andrew Ogilvy gets a few spot minutes, I think CJ will see that as the perfect time to give Kai some playing time. Note AJ Ogilvy is a shell of his former self and is really playing a 4th String big role for the Hawks this season, a far cry from his All NBL days. I think Kai will be able to do decent in that matchup.

If Kai is tasked to guard Harry Froling, I think he would do ok as well. If somehow has to defend Duop Reath or Sam Froling he will get smoked.

Jo lual acuil is playing great for melbourne. the starting center.. active on both ends of the floor..

 

[Silent Killer2]

https://www.adelaide36ers.com/news/injury-update-or-game-7-v-melbourne-united

The Adelaide 36ers will play against Melbourne United Saturday night at the Adelaide Entertainment Centre.


Isaac Humphries (right knee) will sit out, with Isaac Gattorna in as injury replacement player.


Tad Dufelmeier returns to the roster.



Surely with Humphries out Kai will now get some playing time. Melbourne does not play small ball often and will always have one of JLA or Hukporti on the court at all times. They have solid depth at the Power forward spot with Jack White, Mason Peatling and veteran David Barlow.

If Kai is still a DNP tomorrow even with Humphries out then I don't know what else to say.

either kai or manny malou will get the humphries PT slot.. as we know humphries only played 5 minutes during the perth game.. so the 5 minutes is up for grabs between malou and kai

 

[ja.he]

I was thinking of Abueva a little. However, Abueva would need big-time discipline to stay in SoKor. Plus, he's 33. Sucks, because he's our best FIBA-eligible wing. Him and Gabe are aging already. Oh, yeah, I forgot about Calvin Oftana. If he gets good enough in the PBA after a year or two, he might be considered.

As for bigs, yeah, they have to contend with imports, whether on the pick-and-roll or in the low post. Greg and June Mar will get pick-and-rolled or pick-and-popped to death. Same with Ian Sangalang. Japeth has just signed a 3-year extension with Ginebra. Raymond Almazan and JP Erram, sure they're mobile, but are they good enough, and is TNT willing to give up Erram?

Ofcourse not, as a matter of fact, TNT is fortifying their frontline by signing 6'7 Mark Acuno via free agency.

6'7 Erram
6'7 Acuno
6'6 Williams
6'5 Rosario
6'5 Marcelo
6'5 Fuller

This is a solid frontline - not tall but very versatile.

 

[Rodbi]

What PBA players can be possible KBL candidates? Who are good enough? I think some of our best FIBA-eligible guards are good enough for the KBL. Terrence Romeo, CJ Perez, Matthew Wright, and Robert Bolick are the first names that pop up. Kaso, guards lang.

I can't think of anyone good enough or available enough on the PBA wings and bigs front. I think the Gilas boys will be the ones going to Korea from those positions.

There's not too many exchange program-worthy (and with no long-term ties to their mother clubs) PBA bigs right now, as those bigs have yet to get to the PBA. If only PBA accepts homegrowns younger than 20 with considerable upsides, and if only there's a player-loaning system in place, I think this program would be openly accepted by PBA clubs for the sake of hastening their players' development.

 

[thatweirdguy]

Matt is correct in pointing out the flaws of Kai that he is not physical enough. Same old red flags.

I didn’t know there was a “unfollow adelaide” movement. How ridiculous these rowdy pinoy fans are? Very embarrassing.

Very embarrassing. The majority are probably on the free FB anyway. As if their likes and follow will matter. This is not the Miss U or whatever cheap vlogg channel.

 

[ja.he]

Well some on IBN who are strangely absent at the moment actually believe the PBA is a prestigious league and stronger than third division in Europe. The worst pinoy Kai Sotto youtube vlogger EXPRESS INFO actually claimed that "the NBL is not far superior to the PBA" based on the fact that Gilas beat Adelaide 36ers in a tune up game before the 2019 World Cup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SewWA32Xvs4

Even NZ NBL teams like Wellington Saints, Hawke's Bay Hawks and Southland Sharks are still better than the majority of the PBA.

 

[DAdmiral]

Even NZ NBL teams like Wellington Saints, Hawke's Bay Hawks and Southland Sharks are still better than the majority of the PBA.

Well the Gilas Nz tour I organized verified this. The Gilas national team with Marcus lost 3 games to hugot made up NZ NBL teams .
While the Philippines can put together decent FIBA teams and has a vibrant domestic competition , let's be honest the level of top level Filipino players is really not high. . Very few to almost none are rotation level high major diV 1 players.

This However is Philippine thread and understandable people will be offended if you demean their own.
People know me from way back. And mis interpret my honest observation as hate.
The thing.is when they join the same competition Pinoysbin Div 1 and now Kai in NBL. Their level gets exposed. It's not really of a high level. And it's not like there are not heaps of Kiwis and Australian playing well in Div 1 and in the NBL. The plain truth becomes too obvious

 

[NOiNU]

Does Melbourne ever play big, even for spurts? I think Kai could see some minutes now that Isaac Humphries sits this one out. Must be interesting to see how Kai would fare against a top center like Acuil, who relies more on mobility and athleticism rather than brute strength and heft. If Kai can show he can bother or keep up with players Aculi’s built and skill set, he’d surely make a case for more minutes.

Kai gotta earn it, even if it means giving it his everything even in intra squad scrimmages.

 

[IPC2]

There's not too many exchange program-worthy (and with no long-term ties to their mother clubs) PBA bigs right now, as those bigs have yet to get to the PBA. If only PBA accepts homegrowns younger than 20 with considerable upsides, and if only there's a player-loaning system in place, I think this program would be openly accepted by PBA clubs for the sake of hastening their players' development.

Maybe the PBA could find a way to get the KBL teams to accept draft-eligible players for development purposes. Or if a team drafts a high-potential FIBA-eligible player, send him abroad.

If only there were a way for amateur players to go abroad without being draft-eligible.

 

[ja.he]

 

[The_Big_Cat2]

Robert Bolick? Matthew Wright?

 

[ja.he]

Robert Bolick? Matthew Wright?

If a team there acquires Bolick, they can attract more fans. No offense to Brickman, Tiongson and Heading but they can't attract really the Pinoy fans. Signing Bolick might be a huge leap if ever.

 

[DAdmiral]

United alternate Acruil and Ariel at center
And use mobile 4s .Barlow and Peatling
https://basketball.realgm.com/international/league/5/Australian-NBL/team/648/Melbourne/depth-charts

I think Kai can reasonably get 5 minutes at center

 

[thatweirdguy]

Does Melbourne ever play big, even for spurts? I think Kai could see some minutes now that Isaac Humphries sits this one out. Must be interesting to see how Kai would fare against a top center like Acuil, who relies more on mobility and athleticism rather than brute strength and heft. If Kai can show he can bother or keep up with players Aculi’s built and skill set, he’d surely make a case for more minutes.

Kai gotta earn it, even if it means giving it his everything even in intra squad scrimmages.

Is Kai actually ready for heavy minutes? He was sidelined for some games after playing nearly 20 minutes in the presason.. CJ even said that he needs the extra days to prepare his body after nearly 2 years of almost exclusively training..

 

[NOiNU]

Is Kai actually ready for heavy minutes? He was sidelined for some games after playing nearly 20 minutes in the presason.. CJ even said that he needs the extra days to prepare his body after nearly 2 years of almost exclusively training..

Well, define heavy. 20 mins and up? Even if his body can, I don’t think he gets that kind of burn, though. But moot point aside, I still think Kai has a good chance to gets some decent 12-15 minutes on some games by the tail end of the regular season. These bigs are no spring chicken and Humpries himself doesn’t look right in games. Of course, we prefer that Kai cracks the rotation by virtue of strong performances. But hey, opportunity comes in all shapes and sizes.

 

[digitalsuperman2]

oh man. if bolick goes to japan its gonna be a good pickup by that japan team. he is really good.

 

[asero]

what is happening? is there still hope of making the NBA?

 

[Jupitersa]

Well, define heavy. 20 mins and up? Even if his body can, I don’t think he gets that kind of burn, though. But moot point aside, I still think Kai has a good chance to gets some decent 12-15 minutes on some games by the tail end of the regular season. These bigs are no spring chicken and Humpries himself doesn’t look right in games. Of course, we prefer that Kai cracks the rotation by virtue of strong performances. But hey, opportunity comes in all shapes and sizes.

He definitely should have played with Gilas in the King's cup to get more experience how to handle physicality instead his handlers chose to baby him in fear of an injury or probably something el$e. Kai basically stuck to individual training yet again for several months before the opening of NBL season. And now look what happened, he got injured anyway. It's pretty laughable how some 'posters' fanatically defend these individual training and scrimmages over real 5 on 5 competition and how Coach Tab is a villain for making Kai prioritize Gilas over those nonsense.

 

[thatweirdguy]

Well, define heavy. 20 mins and up? Even if his body can, I don’t think he gets that kind of burn, though. But moot point aside, I still think Kai has a good chance to gets some decent 12-15 minutes on some games by the tail end of the regular season. These bigs are no spring chicken and Humpries himself doesn’t look right in games. Of course, we prefer that Kai cracks the rotation by virtue of strong performances. But hey, opportunity comes in all shapes and sizes.

Yeah 20 minutes and up which now looks close to zero happening unless they got hit by injuries or covid.. 12 to 15 minutes is enough for me though. You're right though I'd still not rather force feed him minutes if he's body is not ready for it (did you see his swollen knee pic from playing half speed in the preseason). I'd rather have a benched Kai than an injured Kai.