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Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

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7”5 Chinese National Team Center and CBA All-Star Liu Chuanxing is getting interest from multiple NBL Teams in Australia as an Asian Import, according to reliable sources. He is a free agent as his contract with the Qingdao Eagles has already expired.

https://sportando.basketball/en/chi...iu-chuanxing-getting-interest-from-nbl-teams/

We could check his contract if ever he would signup with a NBL team.

That 7'5 guy was in the China rubber match after the FIBA Asia Cup. The only reason the Chinese tied in regulation is because Kouame and Kai weren't playing in the 4th. Kai was eating him alive in the 2nd qtr apparently.
 
That 7'5 guy was in the China rubber match after the FIBA Asia Cup. The only reason the Chinese tied in regulation is because Kouame and Kai weren't playing in the 4th. Kai was eating him alive in the 2nd qtr apparently.

Yep from the few highlights in that tune up game, Kai really performed extremely well against him. Dude could hardly keep up. I saw him perform the same move that he did against Boban against that guy. Looks like that fake and drive will be a staple of Kai's game for years to come.

 
I wonder how he compares to Zach Edey who Ka could've also faced had our u19 taken part in the u19. Size wise he's a bit bigger and experience wise being already 24 and having already played professional ball tho of course, Edey is an NBA prospect

Honestly a simple eye test will tell you that Edey is better than him. Even if he was part of the final 12 of the OQT in Victoria, he was a DNP against Canada and only played 2 mins against Greece. I know that he is a CBA all star but simply watching him play will give you an idea. Now, if it was Kai against Edey in a potential U19 game, I think Kai would have matched up really well against Edey. Kai would have definitely shined if they played each other especially when you consider the stats that Jun Seok Yeo of Korea produced.

 
You're contradicting yourself , you said you were adamant that the contract amount was to be paid by 36ers alone , now your saying you don't care who pays, Philippine benefactor or NBL front office .
You also say you don't care what Kai is classified as , then previously u said it should be normal situation . WELL Asian development players getting paid as highest paid is Not normally at all .Ok lang naman if he is, , the thing is there is no reason to use an Asian classification if u will use the super max , this will be unprecedented. Plus it defeats the purpose then of limiting each team to 4 max players assigned to marquee players , kung ganoon then every team can just claim that their best and highest paid players as development player lang.
So you see classification matters ,
You are also bitter that NBL listens to mock drafts., well if classification does not matter to you, then why the bitterness that Kai was not classified as a next star player ?
Plus of course it matters to the 36sers , as his salary will be paid by the league

You say we should assume what is normal, well Asian players are normally paid by their Asian sponsors to make this work.. that is the norm for Asian NBL imports, yes not normal for PBA or NBA

I never ever contradict my self.lol That is laughable and your just twisting my statements.


Conclusion it was really Adelaide or NBL who paid for Kai.

Your insistence that a benefactor paid for Kai's salary is really out of this world. MVP doesn't need to promote his businesses in Australia.

If then he was the benefactor, there should have been a press release or statement regarding Smart and their teams colaboration or any other metro-pacific related business. I searched that they were in to water management business in Sydney.

If SBP and MVP are of sound mind, letting Kai play in the NBL and prepare for the NBA is too detrimental to their plans for Gilas. How on earth will he fund an undertaking that they cant barely use their player?lol That argument is too misplaced and purely BS. How can SBP not get a hold of Kai if they were the ones paying for his salary? See your making yourself sound foolish.

You were the only poster here who rubs always that Kai was not rising star prospect but in the end Kai earn way more than current rising stars.haha I am confident he is earning way more than the majority or all of the current batch of rising prospect.

You are also putting the salary scheme of the whole NBL in a bad light. Your insinuating that there are under dealings happening and thus promoting unfair advantage to some teams. You citing Chinese benefactor paying salary of player was not evident in the article you sent. It is most likely just your own fabricated stories and claims.
 
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Just let him be man, he will never concede. It doesn't take a lot of critical thinking to be logical especially when he assumed that Kai's contract is worth 2 mill for 3 years just because of an article rather than looking things objectively especially from this link https://www.josecolorado.com/blog/Australia-nbl-basketball-salaries. Aussies in the NBL forums has already stated that the article does not match the headline. It should be multi year deal rather than multi million. He is the same guy who said that Kai right now is better than a Euro League starter. Just don't even argue against his "superior" basketball knowledge.

Reptilia already said the Marquee player's max salary increased to 700k from 500 last year. NBL also recently signed a broadcasting deal with ESPN hence the increase in salaries. Analyze cant take that KAI WAS PAID 700k for 3yrs meaning max salary. Sumabat ka pa hanggang feeling tama ka lang naman. Do you think news.com.au would jeopardize their business posting nonsense about a Pinoy cager? It is a paid subscription site. It has been days and they haven't corrected it. Check mu yang link para di ka kuda ng walang alam. Multi-million meaning several millions meaning at least 2M then divide it by 3yrs, Kai is earning around 670-700k max player salary. Ganyan lang yan kasimply keysa sa benefactor2x.lol

https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/rising-star-72-filipino-basketballer-kai-sotto-has-signed-a-multimillion-dollar-deal-with-adelaide-36ers/video/468c1a7d65794b635f29970f7f4bce02
 
That 7'5 guy was in the China rubber match after the FIBA Asia Cup. The only reason the Chinese tied in regulation is because Kouame and Kai weren't playing in the 4th. Kai was eating him alive in the 2nd qtr apparently.

Yes, Kai wont have any problem with that Chinese player. The only thing that I am interested would be the amount of his possible contract. Analyze has been insisting that benefactors pad the player's contract to make it bigger. I really dont buy that. Any side dealings would be done in private because that would tarnish the integrity of the league.

Also, the salary determines the VALUE of a player or prospect. This is not just an aspect that we disregard. Superstars were paid a lot because of their talents and marketability. You cant just have marketability and expect to be paid immensely. It should be both.
 
TOP 5 BIGGEST NBL CONTRACTS


1. Bryce Cotton $650k/yr (2 mill/3yr) Perth Wildcats (2020)

2. Andrew Bogut $500k/year ($1 mill/2 yr) Sydney Kings (2018)

3. LaMelo Ball $500k/yr Illawarra Hawks (2019)

4. Roderick "RJ" Hampton $500k/yr New Zealand Breakers (2019)

5. Jerome Randle $400k/yr Sydney Kings (2017)

Lamelo/Hampton receive the biggest for prospects. Kai has been this upcoming season much touted prospect. NBL has been giving Kai a lot of attention and media mileage as compare to the other ones.

Meet the Adelaide 36ers’ newest recruit - Filipino basketball star Kai Sotto. At 19, he's 7 foot 3 inches tall and the next big thing in Aussie basketball. Check this caption if he wasnt important why would they label him as the next big thing. It doesn't just connote height.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=AAWEB_WRE170_a_FBK&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.adelaidenow.com.au%2Fnews%2Fsouth-australia%2F72-and-still-growing-meet-the-adelaide-36ers-newest-recruit-filipino-basketball-star-kai-sotto%2Fnews-story%2F58f1189e3d09f560884297c898bd1630&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium
 
Reptilia already said the Marquee player's max salary increased to 700k from 500 last year. NBL also recently signed a broadcasting deal with ESPN hence the increase in salaries. Analyze cant take that KAI WAS PAID 700k for 3yrs meaning max salary. Sumabat ka pa hanggang feeling tama ka lang naman. Do you think news.com.au would jeopardize their business posting nonsense about a Pinoy cager? It is a paid subscription site. It has been days and they haven't corrected it. Check mu yang link para di ka kuda ng walang alam. Multi-million meaning several millions meaning at least 2M then divide it by 3yrs, Kai is earning around 670-700k max player salary. Ganyan lang yan kasimply keysa sa benefactor2x.lol

https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/rising-star-72-filipino-basketballer-kai-sotto-has-signed-a-multimillion-dollar-deal-with-adelaide-36ers/video/468c1a7d65794b635f29970f7f4bce02

Dude honestly I am a huge supporter to kai but unlike you I take things objectively. Now looking at the blog post palang (https://www.josecolorado.com/blog/Australia-nbl-basketball-salaries) , obviously SRP contract is different from an import. Also what's wrong if Kai's contract is not worth millions? In the end it won't matter in the grand scheme of things, NBA is his goal after all. Aussies has already stated that typo lang ang headline, besides it is okay for a news site to be wrong especially from a sports article lang. This ain't a medical/political article. I haven't heard of any news media being tarnished because of a mistake from the headline of a SPORTS article. They already stated from the forums na typo, article said multi year deal while headline said multi-million. It defeats the purpose to have a SRP contract if it is worth more than a Next star contract or a Max Salary in the NBL.

BTW before you say na nag "degrade" ako ni kai again or "hater"

Ceiling: 15th pick
Floor: 40th Pick - 50th Pick

If Kai is very successful on his NBL stint this year then he can go as high as 15th, if he was only decent I can still see him drafted in the 2nd Round. Realistically I would say that Kai will be ready in 2 years for the 2023 NBA Draft but if he is decent enough this year then I can see him drafted in 2022.

Oh I see, looks like it is now or never. Kai must have a decent season this year to be drafted. If ever he fails to get drafted, having the same route as Landale is still okay. Either way Kai's goal would be to play in the NBA but it would be nice if he will be drafted. My prediction still stands, if he is impressive he can get picked as high as 15th but if he only had decent numbers I can still see him drafted in the 40th - 50th range.

Obviously I am quite high on kai, pero please dude don't be delusional. I truly believe that Kai is earning a lot of money from the side but the contract itself is not worth that much especially SRP contract.
 
Have you seen a press release of a contract from PBA, NBL or NBA that would include side dealings?lol All press releases were all about SALARY and incentives that is dependent to performance goals. Anything other than that is already a violation of league rules. Just pause and think.

I posted that because I want someone to clarify things. I am already expecting that NBL would increase the players salary across the board. You should read more. I am the first who posted that link about salaries. NBA had an immense increase in salary cap after their new broadcasting deals. NBL is also experiencing the same. Also, it is somehow in a way seems that NBL will be paying for Kai's salary and not his team. He is not part of Adelaide's salary cap.

NBL nets ‘AUS$45m’ record rights deal with ESPN and Foxtel
https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/nbl-tv-rights-espn-foxtel-kayo-news-corp-2021#:~:text=Australia's%20National%20Basketball%20League%20(NBL,to%20reports%20in%20the%20country%20.

Jeremy Loeliger has said the new deal will ensure the league can deliver financial distributions to its ten clubs for the first time, ending years of losses. This is the reason for salary increases.
 
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Just pause and think.
You should say this to yourself man. You are suggesting that Kai is somehow the Highest paid player in the NBL. You are also somehow suggesting that a Special restricted player is all of the sudden worth more than a NEXT STAR/MAX SALARY. Grabe. When I say from the side it is nothing illegal obviously. I am just saying that kai is making a lot of money from sponsorships, commercials, personal merchandise or whatsoever. The contract is irrelevant itself honestly because I am sure na he is making a lot of money. It is this simple, Australians have already said na typo, article does not match the headline. If kai really had a 2 million 3 year deal then It should be a fucking thread in the NBL forums because it means that Kai is the HIGHEST PAID PLAYER in NBL history. Much better nalang if you would send an email to daily mail to clarify things. It is pointless to ask people from the thread to clarify things. Basta from the information, logic, testimonies of australians and etc, the argument is shifting in the favor na Kai's contract is not worth that much.
 
You should say this to yourself man. You are suggesting that Kai is somehow the Highest paid player in the NBL. You are also somehow suggesting that a Special restricted player is all of the sudden worth more than a NEXT STAR/MAX SALARY. Grabe. When I say from the side it is nothing illegal obviously. I am just saying that kai is making a lot of money from sponsorships, commercials, personal merchandise or whatsoever. The contract is irrelevant itself honestly because I am sure na he is making a lot of money. It is this simple, Australians have already said na typo, article does not match the headline. If kai really had a 2 million 3 year deal then It should be a fucking thread in the NBL forums because it means that Kai is the HIGHEST PAID PLAYER in NBL history. Much better nalang if you would send an email to daily mail to clarify things. It is pointless to ask people from the thread to clarify things. Basta from the information, logic, testimonies of australians and etc, the argument is shifting in the favor na Kai's contract is not worth that much.

Lamelo and rj got over 1 mill each.

The cap is now $1.64mill and some marquees earn $700k

One forumer here already said the there is a change in salary cap and marquee player salary. Most likely Kai is getting max for asian or rising star whatever designation. You and analyze cant take it.lol You should be correcting News.com.au for that gross negligence of saying multi-million dollar contract.

All Marquee player would earn 700k and the highest for Asian and rising star would also be 700k. Melo and Hampton earn Max salary during their NBL stint. It is not impossible for Kai to also earn Max as a very intriguing and marketable prospect.
 
One forumer here already said the there is a change in salary cap and marquee player salary. Most likely Kai is getting max for asian or rising star whatever designation. You and analyze cant take it.lol You should be correcting News.com.au for that gross negligence of saying multi-million dollar contract.

All Marquee player would earn 700k and the highest for Asian and rising star would also be 700k.

Dude I swear, you are pointless to talk to. So cap is 1.64 million? So what? SRP contract is not part of the salary cap and at this point palang ha. No SRP contract is worth more than Next Star/ Marquee contract. Don't say na I can't take it if kai is making 2 million. Simple lang an SRP contract is not worth more than a Marquee/Next star. And how many times have i told you na typo. Australians who read the article said na MULTI YEAR DEAL not MULTI MILLION. Like I said you keep on pushing the narrative that Kai is the HIGHEST PAID PLAYER IN THE HISTORY OF THE NBL. He is not even projected to be a starter, and the coach himself said na kai has a development plan, his role is not a superstar in Adelaide. He is not earning that kind of superstar money that you are suggesting.
 
Dude I swear, you are pointless to talk to. So cap is 1.64 million? So what? SRP contract is not part of the salary cap and at this point palang ha. No SRP contract is worth more than Next Star/ Marquee contract. Don't say na I can't take it if kai is making 2 million. Simple lang an SRP contract is not worth more than a Marquee/Next star. And how many times have i told you na typo. Australians who read the article said na MULTI YEAR DEAL not MULTI MILLION. Like I said you keep on pushing the narrative that Kai is the HIGHEST PAID PLAYER IN THE HISTORY OF THE NBL. He is not even projected to be a starter, and the coach himself said na kai has a development plan, his role is not a superstar in Adelaide. He is not earning that kind of superstar money that you are suggesting.

How can that be a typo when it was stated MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR?lol MULTI-YEAR DEAL sobrang layu may dollar pa.

700,000.00 Australian Dollars = 514,346.34 US Dollars This is the same with Jalen's ignite deal at 500k and that was for 6 months. Kai's NBL season is longer. This is my last rep but I don't think that was anywhere near the benefactor or typo arguments.
I am not claiming that Kai will be highest over everyone because I am expecting that others would also receive the same or more with the infusion of more salary budget. Hampton was not a starter and didn't play outstanding minutes but received max player during his stint.
 
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This is pointless and moot , News this big of an Asian import getting the max., would be all over the internet and official NBL website if confirmed . I would be the 1st to jump with Joy if surprisingly incredibly true

EWP which is eager and its job to promote Kai, would be the 1st to release this press release of great news if confirmed.
Now if you're saying it is private secret information, then that's a huge problem for the NBL, as it's essentially cheating and not reporting by hiding things
 
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If true which is great , it opens up significant can of worms. Cause that essentially means teams can give up to 6 players the max. 4 marquee , next star and Asian . Which then defeats the whole purpose of 4 limit rule and the classification system.
This is similar to paying a late 2nd round NBA draft classified selected player like a top 3 pick. There are reasons for certain rules
Bottom line is if Kai is that good and worth that then the team can simply select him in his right classification that is appropriate. Just get him as an open import..
What is being suggested here , will not be acceptable to the other teams , it's essentially cheating and a workaround
 
Unconfirmed reports have Kai's g- leaque deal at $ 200k and things didn't pan out, Green's G - league deal is similar to Lamelo's NBL deal , $ 500k or so reported, the 2 programs are essentially competing against each other G- league select vs NBL next star,. so they go by market competing rate .

So it's truly suprising if true that Kai got $ 200k and was essentially a failure in G- league , would require a NBL team to pay him more than that. it's unece3ssary really , it's not like he has many other options offering higher.
 
BTW signing prospects to a multi year contract is the business model, (Comon in Europe), it puts the team in an opportunity for an NBA buyout. For the player it serves as insurance, if no NBA team picks player up, it's win win really
 
BTW new .Corp Australia who published the vaque press release not confirmed by NBL or other New agency. Is like Google News or yahoo news, it relies on subscription and clicks to get revenue. Things posted there should be taken with a grain of salt.
Word of advise just go to nbl website, they will be the 1st to release confirmed news especially if it promotes the league, Kai's signing is definitely good news for NBL
 
How can that be a typo when it was stated MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR?lol MULTI-YEAR DEAL sobrang layu may dollar pa.

700,000.00 Australian Dollars = 514,346.34 US Dollars This is the same with Jalen's ignite deal at 500k and that was for 6 months. Kai's NBL season is longer. This is my last rep but I don't think that was anywhere near the benefactor or typo arguments.
I am not claiming that Kai will be highest over everyone because I am expecting that others would also receive the same or more with the infusion of more salary budget. Hampton was not a starter and didn't play outstanding minutes but received max player during his stint.

I don't wanna argue anymore. If you think na his contract is worth that much then sige, Bahala kana boss. Doesn't matter talaga. If Kai is worth that much right now then simply he should have just been drafted this year instead of 2022. Because 2 mill 3 years, would indicate that Kai's level is higher than LAMELO/HAMPTON or his level is simply comparable to other Marquee players like Landale.

https://nbl.com.au/news/adelaide-36ers-secure-kai-sotto

The fact that the official NBL article states na they want to develop kai means na his contract is not as valuable as you would suggest. Also if it is really multi million, the official article should have just stated it as well.

https://www.josecolorado.com/blog/Australia-nbl-basketball-salaries

This post sad, which probably took a lot of time/research to make would have been enough for everyone to reach a sensible conclusion but somehow because of another article, it easily swayed your judgement into delusion.

https://www.hoops.com.au/forum/49095-liu-chuanxing-nbl-interest/

Not a kai thread but his "multi million article" was discussed.
 
Dude I swear, you are pointless to talk to. So cap is 1.64 million? So what? SRP contract is not part of the salary cap and at this point palang ha. No SRP contract is worth more than Next Star/ Marquee contract. Don't say na I can't take it if kai is making 2 million. Simple lang an SRP contract is not worth more than a Marquee/Next star. And how many times have i told you na typo. Australians who read the article said na MULTI YEAR DEAL not MULTI MILLION. Like I said you keep on pushing the narrative that Kai is the HIGHEST PAID PLAYER IN THE HISTORY OF THE NBL. He is not even projected to be a starter, and the coach himself said na kai has a development plan, his role is not a superstar in Adelaide. He is not earning that kind of superstar money that you are suggesting.

How can that be a typo when it was stated MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR?lol MULTI-YEAR DEAL sobrang layu may dollar pa.

700,000.00 Australian Dollars = 514,346.34 US Dollars This is the same with Jalen's ignite deal at 500k and that was for 6 months. Kai's NBL season is longer. This is my last rep but I don't think that was anywhere near the benefactor or typo arguments.
I am not claiming that Kai will be highest over everyone because I am expecting that others would also receive the same or more with the infusion of more salary budget. Hampton was not a starter and didn't play outstanding minutes but received max player during his stint.

https://nbl.com.au/news/adelaide-36ers-secure-kai-sotto

The Adelaide 36ers have announced that rising young Filipino talent Kai Sotto has signed a multi-year deal with the club. The emerging talent will join the team from the 2021/2022 season.

Standing at 7'2 (218cm) and just 18 years old, Sotto has had significant global interest. He has signed with the Adelaide 36ers for two seasons, with an option for a third, following several months of discussions between the 36ers, Sotto and his agent Joel Bell.

Sotto has signed under the NBL’s Special Restricted Player rule provision allowing the club - and the league - to continue to build on strong relationships within the FIBA Asian region.

Already an emerging figure within the Philippine national team program, Sotto’s decision to head to Adelaide is based on his desire to develop his game over coming seasons with the 36ers and the NBL the place he believes that will be best done.

Following a period training with the NBA G-League Ignite Team, Sotto most recently has been based in Florida, working out with players with past NBA experience as well as strength and conditioning coaches in readiness for the 2021/22 NBL season.

Chairman Grant Kelley said, "We are delighted to welcome Kai, both to the Club and the City of Adelaide. Attracting a player of Kai's potential from Asia, and more recently the United States, to Adelaide will only enhance the Club's reputation for identifying and developing elite basketball talent."

Adelaide 36ers General Manager of Basketball Jeff Van Groningen continued, “Kai realises that he has work ahead of him as all rookies do when coming in to this tough league, but his combination of height and developing skill-set give him every chance to raise his game. With hard work, his ceiling for growth is very high."

NBL Commissioner Jeremy Loeliger said: “We are delighted to welcome Kai to the NBL to play with the Adelaide 36ers. The NBL is one of the best leagues in the world and a great league to develop players like Kai Sotto who want to take their game to the next level by playing alongside seasoned professional players in a super competitive league.”

Sotto will arrive in Adelaide later this year for preseason training as the Adelaide 36ers prepare for the 2021/22 season.
 
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