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mathematicianrcg2
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in short, Kai will be an nba player
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in short, Kai will be an nba player
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yogaflame2
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in short, Kai will be an nba player
True. So when it happens, let us just be proud and happy for Kai Sotto as he will carry the flag of Pilipinas finally in the NBA. Let us support him, hope and pray for his success.
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sroth38392
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The bottom line is im sure he will be drafted or get a contract as as a free agent but he might not be star and just be a bench player., or the very least a good sixth ma. He might not have the same status of Victor Wembanyama and Holgrem who will have more playing time and have better credentials and stats. Let us be realistic, but still lets be grateful, if Kai get drafted or gets a nba contract.
My safe bet: Gets drafted but spends more time in his team's G-League affiliate.
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DAdmiral2
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Please elaborate. Kai got signed in the NBL because of merit and not because he has some benefactors making arrangements on his behalf, right?
Yes of course he was signed as Asia development player on pure basketball merit
But he can get more $$ beyond what Adelaide pays him, how?
what is common especially for Chinese imports., is a benefactor (e.g. Chinese owner) pays the Asian imports benefits, and the player is just loaned to the ANBL team , the ANBL team then pays withiin the classification the benefactor ( in a sense the player is sub contracted out) , the benefit of this is the player gets development expsoure , the ANBL team get the player without blowing the bank, and within classification. the Super popular player like a Chinese or Kai get's paid for his "likeness" by the benefactor.
Note while Asian classification imports salaries are not counted against the salary cap, the financially constrained team , needs to get a backker benefactor to shoulder the salary (normally this comes from overseas in bigger basketball markets like China, Japan , and now the Philippines
so that's the work around. which happens., I fully expect Kai due to his popularity to have a similar arrangement
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cocoyg2
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My safe bet: Gets drafted but spends more time in his team's G-League affiliate.
Hopefully he stays focused and wait for a chance to be called up. That will require a lot of mental toughness on Kai. Most pinoys will just go home and become the big fish in the pond. He should get inspiration from Japan's Watanabe.
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yogaflame2
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My safe bet: Gets drafted but spends more time in his team's G-League affiliate.
Or two more years in NBL.
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Dotch2
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Yes of course he was signed as Asia development player on pure basketball merit
But he can get more $$ beyond what Adelaide pays him, how?
what is common especially for Chinese imports., is a benefactor (e.g. Chinese owner) pays the Asian imports benefits, and the player is just loaned to the ANBL team , the ANBL team then pays withiin the classification the benefactor ( in a sense the player is sub contracted out) , the benefit of this is the player gets development expsoure , the ANBL team get the player without blowing the bank, and within classification. the Super popular player like a Chinese or Kai get's paid for his "likeness" by the benefactor.
Note while Asian classification imports salaries are not counted against the salary cap, the financially constrained team , needs to get a backker benefactor to shoulder the salary (normally this comes from overseas in bigger basketball markets like China, Japan , and now the Philippines
so that's the work around. which happens., I fully expect Kai due to his popularity to have a similar arrangement
Wondering who's Kai's sponsor. EWP? MVP? CTG? Your guess is as good as mine.
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Stevy2
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Wondering who's Kai's sponsor. EWP? MVP? CTG? Your guess is as good as mine.
All of the above which is good for Kai. He is earning a lot from the side for sure. Sponsorship, Commercials, Merchandise and etc.
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PeeZones2
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what is common especially for Chinese imports., is a benefactor (e.g. Chinese owner) pays the Asian imports benefits, and the player is just loaned to the ANBL team , the ANBL team then pays withiin the classification the benefactor ( in a sense the player is sub contracted out) , the benefit of this is the player gets development expsoure , the ANBL team get the player without blowing the bank, and within classification. the Super popular player like a Chinese or Kai get's paid for his "likeness" by the benefactor.
Note while Asian classification imports salaries are not counted against the salary cap, the financially constrained team , needs to get a backker benefactor to shoulder the salary (normally this comes from overseas in bigger basketball markets like China, Japan , and now the Philippines
so that's the work around. which happens., I fully expect Kai due to his popularity to have a similar arrangement
i've had popular players under this type of arrangement,. it happens.
Really Analyze? You just spew nonsense and add further confusion. I only ask that you clarify how Kai end up getting that massive contract. Your again threaten by Kai's success. As it stand, Kai is paid more than any asian or NZ prospect ever.lol
You should cite an example of a chinese player who was paid such ridiculous amount. I tried to search and I found very few players and they were paid measly as compare to Kai. Here is a post from sinobball of IBN about asian players in NBL. https://www.interbasket.net/forums/showthread.php?58574-Asian-players-in-NBL
You were insisting before that Kai would only get around 70-125k in his NBL stint. I insisted that he would get at least similar or bigger than his IGNITE CONTRACT.
300,000.00 US Dollars(possible Ignite contract) = 408,182.94 Australian Dollars this would be the least amount that Kai will get each year. His pay is way bigger than 80-90% percent of the NBL players.
Kai being sponsored by rich benefactor is too absurd. We could narrow it to possible benefactors either MVP, CTG or an NBA team.
If it was MVP, why was Gilas begging for Kai to play in the jordan and asia cup? It doesnt sound like they were the one paying.
CTG wont pay such amounts and doesn't gain benefit from it. Kai only visited CTG head once and it was just a cordial show of respect. It wasn't for an endorsement or anything.
NBA team = no team would pay a player when they are not guaranteed to land the prospect.
Conclusion it was really Adelaide or NBL who paid for Kai.
Kai being a marketing tool is a double edged sword. If Kai would be benched and wont flourish, you get a hoard of toxic fans flooding your social media pages. Kai was hired and paid a lot BECAUSE HE IS A VERY GOOD PROSPECT.
Adelaide's Coach Conner Henry is NBA Dleague's coach of the year for 2014. They wont pay someone with such a massive amount and wont find good use for such player. I dont think the entire Adelaide and NBL were too foolish to overcompensate Kai.
Kai has been hailed as the next big thing in Aussie bball. He is being groomed to be like Melo or near that stature as evident by the attention given to him by NBL.
I am just confused with the term Multi-million. Supposedly, it should be several millions meaning at least 2M. If then it is less than 2m, the least salary for Kai would be 400-500k and that is all-star level pay for an NBL player.
If indeed it was 2M, the only logical explanation would be that NBL salary cap had immensely increase after signing a new deal with ESPN. This is very intriguing because Kai is receiving an amount that is way beyond any asian, NZ player, or most Aussie player. Lamelo receive 500k for 1 year and he was a lottery pick.
https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/nbl-tv-rights-espn-foxtel-kayo-news-corp-2021 3 year deal
Analyze also insisted that NBL contracts were transparent and doesn't have under dealings. That multimillion contract was most likely just Kai's salary.
The maximum length of NBL player contracts is three years.[64] The 2020/21 NBL salary cap has been set at $US 1,227,930, with one marquee 'local' player (including players with Asian or Oceania passports) and traditional imports exempt from the salary cap. Next Stars may also be exempt.[65]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_League_(Australia)
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yogaflame2
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I may concede to Wembanyama but Holmgren? Nah. That kid will most likely be a bust.
Wemba will be a super version of Giannis. And he has a healthy blood line of Track and field star father and basketball player mother which means hight possibility that he will not be injury prone. As for Holgrem, well he is Americas favorite, so they will really hype him and groom him to become great.
Hopefully , Kai will become at least serviceable big man in NBA , at least a good reliever and 6th man and defender.
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ARMIR2
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I may concede to Wembanyama but Holmgren? Nah. That kid will most likely be a bust.
The kid,works really hard,hustles alot,very athletic 7'1,starting to develop a mid range shot,and he's going to an NCAA Div1 school that's a good developer of modern big man,I only see upside with the young man.I hope he stays the whole 4 years and get a diploma,or at least a minimum of 3 years,the only issue is his weight,he would put on some weight before he goes to draft for sure,with the schools program.
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Rds2
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Wemba will be a super version of Giannis. And he has a healthy blood line of Track and field star father and basketball player mother which means hight possibility that he will not be injury prone. As for Holgrem, well he is Americas favorite, so they will really hype him and groom him to become great.
Hopefully , Kai will become at least serviceable big man in NBA , at least a good reliever and 6th man and defender.
I think Wembayana is more KD than Giannis in that he has a good perimeter game.
Holmgren to me is too light to play a front court position and too slow for the back court. The closest comparison to body type might be Andre Kirilenko. But still slower. Btw how did Durant do in college. IRC college ball is more physical than the NBA and favors rugged players with shooting like Fredette or Grayson than athletic and quick ones
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DAdmiral2
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yes really..
BTW can you post the content news of this so called $ million dollar (not pesos) contract from Adelaide, (not from external / endorsements) etc ?
BTW can you post the content news of this so called $ million dollar (not pesos) contract from Adelaide, (not from external / endorsements) etc ?
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PeeZones2
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I think Wembayana is more KD than Giannis in that he has a good perimeter game.
Holmgren to me is too light to play a front court position and too slow for the back court. The closest comparison to body type might be Andre Kirilenko. But still slower. Btw how did Durant do in college. IRC college ball is more physical than the NBA and favors rugged players with shooting like Fredette or Grayson than athletic and quick ones
Durant led the Big 12 in scoring and rebounding as a freshman, averaging 25.1 points and 11.4 rebounds entering the Big 12 tournament, while ranking second in the conference in blocks, seventh in field-goal percentage and sixth in free-throw percentage. He was a beast and a one and done.
Victor acts like Bolbol and KD but he wont be near the handles of KD. He is someway assertive and doesnt shy from contact and he will most likely end like Bol as a stretch 4. I think he really plays like Bol and it would really depend on how his game will translate in the NBA. Both prefers to shoot 3s and do turn around jumpers in the post. Same playstyle KD like but too tall and both with shaky handles.
Andrei was thin when he came but he doesnt look weak and fragile. Ak47 was also way faster and more explosive than Chet. Chet falls like a twig and was really similar to Kai when he was 15. The most shocking about Chet was that i didnt expect him to be slow like most bigs. He is skilled for sure but being slow and so weak as a big world really be problematic. I also cant see him as an SF so he would really end up as a stretch 4.
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PeeZones2
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yes really..
Cite a chinese NBL player who earns a lot with a benefactor? Your theory is too far-fetch and too complicated to even materialize.lol It is easier to just say they paid Kai that amount and try to understand the reason for such massive contract despite not being a next big star player.
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PeeZones2
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The kid,works really hard,hustles alot,very athletic 7'1,starting to develop a mid range shot,and he's going to an NCAA Div1 school that's a good developer of modern big man,I only see upside with the young man.I hope he stays the whole 4 years and get a diploma,or at least a minimum of 3 years,the only issue is his weight,he would put on some weight before he goes to draft for sure,with the schools program.
If Chet would stay long in the NCAA, he would end up as mid to late first rounder and his position would really depend on how that body would develop.
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DAdmiral2
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Cite a chinese NBL player who earns a lot with a benefactor? Your theory is too far-fetch and too complicated to even materialize.lol It is easier to just say they paid kay that amount and try to understand the reason for such massive contract despite not being a next big star player.
Ok, i've dealt directly with the NBL teams, for "Asian players" , part of what it takes to make it works is beyond the limits of normal NBL salaries (note the team salary cap is just $ 1.5 M) is "income " from revenue as a result to the players popularity in an external market., ( e.g. Baba and Japan, , Inidan Bhriguvanshi (36ers)/ Singh and Chinese Terry Li (Breakers)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/baske...se-basketballer-terry-li-for-development-spot
Li's compensation was not limited to Breakers but was sponsored by his Chinese benefactor.
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PeeZones2
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yes really..
BTW can you post the content news of this so called $ million dollar (not pesos) contract from Adelaide, (not from external / endorsements) etc ?
We dont have a detailed writeup of the contract. Only a video of it from a legit Adelaide news. I think that site is well known to those in NZ and Australia. It is a paid subscription site similar to US news sites.
https://www.news.com.au/more-information
[video]https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/rising-star-72-filipino-basketballer-kai-sotto-has-signed-a-multimillion-dollar-deal-with-adelaide-36ers/video/468c1a7d65794b635f29970f7f4bce02[/video]
https://web.facebook.com/news.com.au?_rdc=1&_rdr
Caption of the video was Rising Star: 7'2 , Filipino basketballer Kai Sotto has signed a multi-million dollar deal with Adelaide 36ers
Rising Star: 7'2 , Filipino basketballer Kai Sotto has signed a multi-million dollar deal with Adelaide 36ers
Kai Sotto has signed a multi-year deal to play for the Adelaide 36ers in the Australian National Basketball League. The 18 year-old, who is 7'2 (218cm) will join the team from the 2021-22 season.
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PeeZones2
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Ok, i've dealt directly with the NBL teams, for "Asian players" , part what to make it works beyond the limits of normal NBL salaries (note the team salary cap is just $ 1.5 M) is "income " from revenue as a result to the players popularity in an external market., ( e.g. Baba and Japan, , Inidan Bhriguvanshi (36ers)/ Singh and Chinese Terry Li (Breakers)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/baske...se-basketballer-terry-li-for-development-spot
Li's compensation was not limited to Breakers but was sponsored by his Chinese benefactor.
I dont think SBP pays for that contract because they cant just demand on the availability of Kai and they somehow would negotiate to EWP and 36ers for them to release him.
Also, how much was the contract for that Li?
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DAdmiral2
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We dont have a detailed writeup of the contract. Only a video of it from a legit Adelaide news. I think that site is well known to those in NZ and Australia. It is a paid subscription site similar to US news sites.
https://www.news.com.au/more-information
[video]https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/rising-star-72-filipino-basketballer-kai-sotto-has-signed-a-multimillion-dollar-deal-with-adelaide-36ers/video/468c1a7d65794b635f29970f7f4bce02[/video]
https://web.facebook.com/news.com.au?_rdc=1&_rdr
Caption of the video was Rising Star: 7'2 , Filipino basketballer Kai Sotto has signed a multi-million dollar deal with Adelaide 36ers
Rising Star: 7'2 , Filipino basketballer Kai Sotto has signed a multi-million dollar deal with Adelaide 36ers
Kai Sotto has signed a multi-year deal to play for the Adelaide 36ers in the Australian National Basketball League. The 18 year-old, who is 7'2 (218cm) will join the team from the 2021-22 season.
Nothing really in that press release contradicts the value of the contract being multi million dollars , side arrangements as a result of the signing can potentially be multi million $