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JAMSKIE2
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Common sense will tell you that Kai spending about one month of training with Gilas is better than Kai spending just 10 days of training with Gilas. No need to ask coach Tab or anyone from SBP about that.
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Common sense will tell you that Kai spending about one month of training with Gilas is better than Kai spending just 10 days of training with Gilas. No need to ask coach Tab or anyone from SBP about that.
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thatweirdguy2
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No one will know if it is sufficient time or not unless someone from SBP or Tab would say such things. Ano bang alam ng normal na tao? Everything would also be normal irregardless, if only they didnt make pronouncements through the media. SBP's move is creating rift between Kai and them. They should learn to wait and the times is too risky for anyone. They should have the decency to not utter useless things through the media.
Is it similar to Kai saying he's still 100% committed? Who's creating the rift? Is there even a rift?
You do know we our team always performs bad when we don't have enough prep time. People are always clamoring for more prep time and now they can have it with our cadet setup. But you'd rather just have Kai practice with them for a week or so then blame the team when he doesn't get many minutes or plays bad. Don't forget that he hasn't played in a real game for more than 1 year. That's just asking for trouble
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digitalsuperman2
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i think kai is about to leave US based on his IG story?
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Labradoodle2
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The socmed handlers of Kai should really back down a little bit on posting ang hyping things in social media. I just creates a lot of speculation and confusion among people as well as immense pressure for the kid
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JAMSKIE2
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i think kai is about to leave US based on his IG story?
Oh, all I can say is sana Kai is now about to leave US for the Philippines.
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digitalsuperman2
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Oh, all I can say is sana Kai is now about to leave US for the Philippines.
man i hope so.
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digitalsuperman2
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Brad, Lester Prosper have been training with team Indonesia since last year pa. Hence, Prosper rejoining the team with only 2 weeks prior to the 3rd window won't be much of a problem since he's already well assimilated with coach Rajko Toroman's system & has already bond well with his teammates. The same could not be said about Kai who hasn't really trained with Gilas for a considerable amount of time.
Kai joining the team about 10 days prior to the 3rd window won't trigger much whining in the Phi basketball community if Kai had already spent about a month of training with Gilas before.
Simple as that bro.
this. prosper has played for toroman for 2 years already. he knows the system even with his eyes closed. they even had a training camp during the indonesian lockdown at bandung for months just to grasp the system. kai has not played competitively for like years already and is not familiar with tab's system or at least what tab is trying to implement.
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PeeZones2
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Common sense will tell you that Kai spending about one month of training with Gilas is better than Kai spending just 10 days of training with Gilas. No need to ask coach Tab or anyone from SBP about that.
Kai's training with Remy Martin is miles ahead than Kai training with Gilas. The personal gain for Kai cannot be replicated by any training offered by anyone from gilas. Remy is a well respected and accomplished NBA player trainer.
In terms of gilas as a team, it is better for the team but as for Kai as a player nothing compares training with martin.
Kai's world doesnt just revolve with gilas. He has bigger things to deal with than any phil player. Pba players arent even available most of the time even if their just with the PBA.
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PeeZones2
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Is it similar to Kai saying he's still 100% committed? Who's creating the rift? Is there even a rift?
You do know we our team always performs bad when we don't have enough prep time. People are always clamoring for more prep time and now they can have it with our cadet setup. But you'd rather just have Kai practice with them for a week or so then blame the team when he doesn't get many minutes or plays bad. Don't forget that he hasn't played in a real game for more than 1 year. That's just asking for trouble
So EWP and Kai taking all the heat since February till now a good thing? Kai has officially ended his training but was very unsure about playing. His insta post doesnt indicate that he will be back. Too much for the 30days demand for Tab.
Kai's world doesnt just revolve with Gilas. That will be the reality moving forward. Why cant all of gilas just deal with Kai on the background and stop doing unnecessary press releases? Does that even help? It just put Kai and his team in a bad light.
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thatweirdguy2
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So EWP and Kai taking all the heat since February till now a good thing? Kai has officially ended his training but was very unsure about playing. His insta post doesnt indicate that he will be back. Too much for the 30days demand for Tab.
Kai's world doesnt just revolve with Gilas. That will be the reality moving forward. Why cant all of gilas just deal with Kai on the background and stop doing unnecessary press releases? Does that even help? It just put Kai and his team in a bad light.
Well who else is supposed to take the heat? Were they forced to come home last February? If the rumors are true they even made some coin for doing nothing. I thought you never liked Ignite and Brian Shaw anyway? At some point he and his handlers has to take responsibility for his choices. 30 days is fine IMO. Anything less and his performance and playing time might suffer. You'd want him to be at his best at these games even if it's just against Indonesia. He could just beg off if he doesn't feel like giving his 100% or has other plans IMO
Agree and GILAS shouldn't just revolve around Kai. That's why they should have a backup just in case Kai isn't available. Those conditions aren't unreasonable. If anything they already made some exceptions for him nga. But obviously less than weeks of practice won't be enough.
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Silent Killer2
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Well who else is supposed to take the heat? Were they forced to come home last February? If the rumors are true they even made some coin for doing nothing. I thought you never liked Ignite and Brian Shaw anyway? At some point he and his handlers has to take responsibility for his choices. 30 days is fine IMO. Anything less and his performance and playing time might suffer. You'd want him to be at his best at these games even if it's just against Indonesia. He could just beg off if he doesn't feel like giving his 100% or has other plans IMO
Agree and GILAS shouldn't just revolve around Kai. That's why they should have a backup just in case Kai isn't available. Those conditions aren't unreasonable. If anything they already made some exceptions for him nga. But obviously less than weeks of practice won't be enough.
sbp were caught off guard with ewp’s move last february..
funny it’s okay to pull out kai in the middle of preparation for ignite that cause kai’s spot with the team, but it’s not okay to pull out kai with no tournaments to play and content of just playing..
apply what you learn by playing competitive games not scrimmages where theirs Zero defense..
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JAMSKIE2
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Bottomline is, Kai needs actual games to display what he has learned from training
Bottomline is, Kai needs actual games to display what he has learned from training
There's no argument the kind of training that Kai has been getting since going to the US is essential for his development as a player. And Kai has been training under the most brilliant trainers & coaches a young basketball cager can avail at this stage of his career, but as other posters here have pointed out, Kai hasn't played an actual tournament game for quite some time now. Perhaps more than a year na. All he has been doing for the last one year or so were training & some scrimmages & pick-up or tune-up games with pros & college players in the US. Maboboro ang player pag puro training & practices lang ang gagawin nya.
Bottomline is, Kai needs actual tournament games. Hindi puro training lang. You can be trained by the finest NBA coaches & trainers out there but without actual tournament games, the effectiveness of that training won't be fully utilized. You need actual tournament games to apply what you've learned & absorbed in training.
Bottomline is, Kai needs actual games to display what he has learned from training
Kai's training with Remy Martin is miles ahead than Kai training with Gilas. The personal gain for Kai cannot be replicated by any training offered by anyone from gilas. Remy is a well respected and accomplished NBA player trainer.
In terms of gilas as a team, it is better for the team but as for Kai as a player nothing compares training with martin.
Kai's world doesnt just revolve with gilas. He has bigger things to deal with than any phil player. Pba players arent even available most of the time even if their just with the PBA.
There's no argument the kind of training that Kai has been getting since going to the US is essential for his development as a player. And Kai has been training under the most brilliant trainers & coaches a young basketball cager can avail at this stage of his career, but as other posters here have pointed out, Kai hasn't played an actual tournament game for quite some time now. Perhaps more than a year na. All he has been doing for the last one year or so were training & some scrimmages & pick-up or tune-up games with pros & college players in the US. Maboboro ang player pag puro training & practices lang ang gagawin nya.
Bottomline is, Kai needs actual tournament games. Hindi puro training lang. You can be trained by the finest NBA coaches & trainers out there but without actual tournament games, the effectiveness of that training won't be fully utilized. You need actual tournament games to apply what you've learned & absorbed in training.
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digitalsuperman2
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There's no argument the kind of training that Kai has been getting since going to the US is essential for his development as a player. And Kai has been training under the most brilliant trainers & coaches a young basketball cager can avail at this stage of his career, but as other posters here have pointed out, Kai hasn't played an actual tournament game for quite some time now. Perhaps more than a year na. All he has been doing for the last one year or so were training & some scrimmages & pick-up or tune-up games with pros & college players in the US. Maboboro ang player pag puro training & practices lang ang gagawin nya.
Bottomline is, Kai needs actual tournament games. Hindi puro training lang. You can be trained by the finest NBA coaches & trainers out there but without actual tournament games, the effectiveness of that training won't be fully utilized. You need actual tournament games to apply what you've learned & absorbed in training.
as what was said. balance, as it should be. kai can only have individual trainings for so long but with no competitive games to use it with then its no use to be honest. we have to know his individual training's purpose is to prepare him for competitive games. but without competitive games then its all for nothing. he has been away for so long in competitive games. i dont think he will make it to the gilas games. good thing koaume naturalization came in time at least we have a big man who is available all the time. i actually want kai to make it to the gilas lineup. i really wanna know who is better, kouame who trained locally with tab, or kai who trained in the US. as of now my money is on kouame, since he already know tab's system. if ever kai makes it to the gilas lineup, im pretty sure coaching staff will favor kouame in the lineup due to familiarity and surely kai fanboys will be up in arms with that.
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PeeZones2
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I dont think there is pressure on Kai's camp to play bball. He has a full year ahead to play and he is guaranteed to play for 30plus games with NBL.
This is the time for Tab and SBP to blabber their mouths.lol I want them to say that they will accept Kai even if he is late. No parent would allow their son to travel thousand of miles in a very risky time just to not be guaranteed a slot in the final 12. So much for Tab demanding for a month and not guaranteeing Kai's slot if he would be late. Kai is current gilas best player. He didnt deliberately miss gilas practice. It is just that he has other IMPORTANT COMMITMENTS.
This is the time for Tab and SBP to blabber their mouths.lol I want them to say that they will accept Kai even if he is late. No parent would allow their son to travel thousand of miles in a very risky time just to not be guaranteed a slot in the final 12. So much for Tab demanding for a month and not guaranteeing Kai's slot if he would be late. Kai is current gilas best player. He didnt deliberately miss gilas practice. It is just that he has other IMPORTANT COMMITMENTS.
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PeeZones2
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I always want Kai to play for Gilas as long as it is not affecting his NBA dream. I just hate how SBP personnels are after their personal interest over the greater good of Kai's career. I hope he will play this window and for SBP to exclusively deal with Kai discreetly. He could make it in time but with lesser practice.
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Silent Killer2
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This is what i'm talking about.. Iba dito they want Kai to follow Tab's order to train for a month daw or else no Gilas stint.. Dapat Tab and SBP didn't said that, I said before that Tab and SBP should also adjust for him.. I think this is one of the reason why Kai's handlers are still not bringing Kai here because they thinking baka di din bibigyan ng spot si Kai because of that condition.. Selfish din si Tab at SBP.. they only care for their agenda, not for players' career itself.. For sure some posters again will attack me for this, But this is the truth.. SBP should also care other players' commitment outside Gilas.. Now Gilas will be in danger of no having Kai in all of three main Gilas' tournaments.. Dapat tulungan sila on bringing the best options for Kai.. Eh anu naman kung darating sya late? Eh he has more important commitment outside Gilas that he needs to attend and for his career sake.. As i said also that Gilas must need Kai than Kai needs Gilas.. Remember Joel Embiid, Pascal Siakam, Ben Simmons, Enes Kanter, etc... still able be a successful in their respective careers w/o most of their national team stints because they do care first of their career and nothing else.. Kai can do the same.. Kai can be able to be successful even w/o Gilas stint... Mas mahalaga parin ba slot nila Mike Nietto over Kai because the former is always there since day one? Pag ganyan sila Tab at SBP for sure they will be more hard time secure his services once Kai makes into NBA in near time...
People won't post the way they post IF EWP DIDN'T SAY KAI WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ACQ, OQT and Asia Cup.. if they say kai is not available then we won't talk about this..
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thatweirdguy2
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Lahat pwede magbago desisyon.. It will depends on how SBP and EWP will handle the negotiations fair for both camps.. I think SBP should also tell what's going on in this situation.. I got feel EWP didn't like what Tab's statement about the condition of 1 month commitment on Gilas.. I understand Tab that he wants Gilas to be competitive.. But they should also understand that Kai and his camp has other commitments.. If Kai can join the team two weeks or less than that so be it.. It's up to SBP and Tab if they will accept Kai or not... Di pa naman World Cup or Olympics that we should prepare for that long to jell with the team.. That is only ACQ that has only 1 win away to reach the Asia Cup.. As for OQT eh do we have the chance? Kai can afford to skip Gilas anytime that is only minor qualifier games.. I heard talagang pupunta si Kai sa Australia this month.. Check at AJ Edu Group FB account.. One or two higher ups that is also members of that group are connected to SBP and Kai, tells that Kai will go to Australia.. So it means i'm about 95% sure Kai can't make it in ACQ while he can be also unavailable in OQT.. If you are also member there then you see that names already who are those people who tell Kai will be Australia bound first...
Nobody is forcing him to go. If he really has an important commitment or doesn't want to play or whatever he can just beg off and join whenever he wants to. The team doesn't revolve around him they been practicing for how many months now without him. Those conditions were set by Tab a lonh time ago and for sure they know the IATFs protocols. Those are in place for good reasons naman. If he can't respect them or play 100% it's better not to come at all. He could hurt his stock. Kai isn't at Ben Simmon's , Siakam's or even Douthit's level yet. You can't just throw a 19 year old kid who hasn't played a real game for more than a year against grown men even if its against Indonesia. Baka ma 3x3 tayo because we don't respect our opponents..
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ja.he2
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Some people are just flipflopping their statements just to d*ckr*d* with their idol. In the other thread, they are mad because the 3x3 Gilas was manhandled due to the intervention of PBA that resulted in cramming/lack of prep of the whole team. In this thread, it is Tab and SBP now that is going to adjust to Kai in order to accommodate the latter. You d*ckr*d*rs all acting like Kai is Blatche-type of player.
Also, Tab is not doing it for his personal agenda. He is doing it for the betterment of our COUNTRY's NATIONAL team and basketball PROGRAM. You are just blind not to see that. He and SBP revived the GIilas 1.0 so that we will not get humiliated in international competitions.
Also, Tab is not doing it for his personal agenda. He is doing it for the betterment of our COUNTRY's NATIONAL team and basketball PROGRAM. You are just blind not to see that. He and SBP revived the GIilas 1.0 so that we will not get humiliated in international competitions.
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thatweirdguy2
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In other news , Kai's "punching bag" Makur Maker just entered the draft without an agent. I wonder if he'll be picked
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PeeZones2
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Werent flipflopping, you dont have to be salty all these times.lol You should read this to refresh your memory.
https://www.rappler.com/sports/tab-baldwin-staying-philippines-best-choice-kai-sotto
MANILA, Philippines – Tab Baldwin has not changed his stand on where Kai Sotto should play next.
The 7-foot-2 wunderkind has received multiple offers from European teams but the Ateneo Blue Eagles mentor believes staying here in the Philippines remains as the optimal choice that will benefit Sotto's future.
"I've been on the record already saying Kai's best decision would be to stay here. I haven't changed that," Baldwin said on Friday, March 15.
"I still believe that's the case and I think people just don't understand what it means to go into the European theater and how difficult that is especially for a kid."
The 16-year-old prodigy has previously revealed he is close to making a decision on his future, whether that be heading overseas or remaining in the UAAP where he still has two years of eligibility for the Ateneo Blue Eaglets.
Among the reported teams who have tendered their offers to Sotto are EuroLeague's Real Madrid, FC Barcelona and Baskonia and Bundesliga's Alda Berlin.
Sotto recently said Liga ACB's Movistar Estudiantes has also joined the sweepstakes, making it a total of 5 European teams vying for the young Filipino big man's services.
While basketball fans, pundits and players are encouraging the big move to Europe, Baldwin is adamant it is here in the Philippines where Sotto will make significant progress in his development.
"If he's a pro getting over there to play, I think it's fantastic. But he's a kid who needs to be developed and that needs to be the emphasis. It shouldn't be about what team he's going to play for," Baldwin said.
"The next significant teams that he plays for should be in the NBA. And the best way for him to get there is to get himself into development program and not into where he has to give his skills and ability to a team."
"It should be in a situation where there are coaches devoting themselves in his development and his future. And I think we can do that here and I don't think that can be done overseas." – Rappler.com
https://www.rappler.com/sports/tab-baldwin-staying-philippines-best-choice-kai-sotto
MANILA, Philippines – Tab Baldwin has not changed his stand on where Kai Sotto should play next.
The 7-foot-2 wunderkind has received multiple offers from European teams but the Ateneo Blue Eagles mentor believes staying here in the Philippines remains as the optimal choice that will benefit Sotto's future.
"I've been on the record already saying Kai's best decision would be to stay here. I haven't changed that," Baldwin said on Friday, March 15.
"I still believe that's the case and I think people just don't understand what it means to go into the European theater and how difficult that is especially for a kid."
The 16-year-old prodigy has previously revealed he is close to making a decision on his future, whether that be heading overseas or remaining in the UAAP where he still has two years of eligibility for the Ateneo Blue Eaglets.
Among the reported teams who have tendered their offers to Sotto are EuroLeague's Real Madrid, FC Barcelona and Baskonia and Bundesliga's Alda Berlin.
Sotto recently said Liga ACB's Movistar Estudiantes has also joined the sweepstakes, making it a total of 5 European teams vying for the young Filipino big man's services.
While basketball fans, pundits and players are encouraging the big move to Europe, Baldwin is adamant it is here in the Philippines where Sotto will make significant progress in his development.
"If he's a pro getting over there to play, I think it's fantastic. But he's a kid who needs to be developed and that needs to be the emphasis. It shouldn't be about what team he's going to play for," Baldwin said.
"The next significant teams that he plays for should be in the NBA. And the best way for him to get there is to get himself into development program and not into where he has to give his skills and ability to a team."
"It should be in a situation where there are coaches devoting themselves in his development and his future. And I think we can do that here and I don't think that can be done overseas." – Rappler.com