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Giannis34GOD2
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Are you out of your mind? Do you think they are playing for free? I don’t need source since it’s non sense to talk with you by the way…
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Are you out of your mind? Do you think they are playing for free? I don’t need source since it’s non sense to talk with you by the way…
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gilasfan2
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Tab's biggest contribution is his interview with Eric Menk.
Wherein he made us fans believe that we can be a rank 15 in the world.
And thinking that our team is small is rubbish. There are many tall players in our country where in we can form a team of 12 of. True
And also the way he made us believe....as long as we can win 1 possession at a time...we have a chance to win
Wherein he made us fans believe that we can be a rank 15 in the world.
And thinking that our team is small is rubbish. There are many tall players in our country where in we can form a team of 12 of. True
And also the way he made us believe....as long as we can win 1 possession at a time...we have a chance to win
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The Firm2
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FIBA rules is very different than NBA rules… 2nd, a prime Kobe, Lebron, KD, Melo, etc… just only won 5 vs Lithuania in 2012 Olympics and 8 vs Spain in 2008 Olympics… a full force Serbia or Wemby led France is on the level of those Lithuania and Spain squad of the past… and by the way Serbia won silver medal in 2016 Olympics w/ Jokic by the way… need some research first before you post… aside from KD, old lebron and defensive liability steph (in fiba setting), other USA players are not impactful as those 3… morant, Zion, harden, Westbrook, lilliard, etc… are flops in fiba… they will be exposed there…
Given the same amount of preparation (those NTs you mentioned have been together for years), a full-strength US team will demolish any team, even those powerhouses you mentioned. Yes, they have had close games with Spain etc. but they still won due to sheer talent. Just imagine if they also have the same amount of (and gave the same importance to) prep.
The 2023 WC US team is not nearly close to being the A Team and they're still destroying teams left and right (granted they lost to a sweet-shooting Lithuania team but they are still the absolute favorites to win it all).
Talent and system are the two main ingredients for success. The US has loads of the former and they just need a little bit of the latter--goes to show that they are still the number one basketball power and the gap from them to no. 2 is not that close I think.
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reamily2
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Tab's biggest legacy to Philippine basketball was triggering the Asian OFW leagues movement, the impact in improving our level of FIBA competitiveness is evident with our best eligible players (Dwight , Kai, AJ, Abando, Kiefer ) all belong to that pathway.
ironically it's this same change in landscape (Asian league exodus) that kicked out Tab.
Which begs the question what really is the objective of the SBP stakeholders, is it really basketball progress or commercial self interest?
SO in teh end its his connections not really the coaching able to send Filipino players in higher level (and paying) leagues, he was also able to get some foreign based players their eligibility right?
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Giannis34GOD2
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Given the same amount of preparation (those NTs you mentioned have been together for years), a full-strength US team will demolish any team, even those powerhouses you mentioned. Yes, they have had close games with Spain etc. but they still won due to sheer talent. Just imagine if they also have the same amount of (and gave the same importance to) prep.
The 2023 WC US team is not nearly close to being the A Team and they're still destroying teams left and right (granted they lost to a sweet-shooting Lithuania team but they are still the absolute favorites to win it all).
Talent and system are the two main ingredients for success. The US has loads of the former and they just need a little bit of the latter--goes to show that they are still the number one basketball power and the gap from them to no. 2 is not that close I think.
The question is can they sacrifice their careers in NBA just to have a long term program in USA basketball?
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Giannis34GOD2
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Tab's biggest contribution is his interview with Eric Menk.
Wherein he made us fans believe that we can be a rank 15 in the world.
And thinking that our team is small is rubbish. There are many tall players in our country where in we can form a team of 12 of. True
And also the way he made us believe....as long as we can win 1 possession at a time...we have a chance to win
All we need is full time coach, dedicated players who want to play any fiba sanctioned games and a GM who will focus on national team and not prioritize other matters outside Gilas… if non of those mentioned not happen then it’s impossible to achieve that dreams…
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zuma1692
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you know guys, if we want to simplify things for Gilas to be successful year in year out, it is only one word - EXPOSURE.. un lang guys.. we need all our players, whether high school, college and PBA, to play as much FIBA-sanction, FIBA-type competition as possible.. and what does this mean? having long off seasons.. well our schools have long off seasons albeit not in sync with FIBA calendar.. but the PBA plays all year round which makes it impossible for Gilas to play as much FIBA games as possible.. of course under the direction of an experienced FIBA basketball oficionado as program director..
no need to form a team EXCULSIVELY from the young age.. there is no national team in the world who has this formula.. it just seems the case for some national teams because their youth program is strong and in sync with the seniors that talent from a young age will be carried over to the seniors team THUS continuity..
secondly we really have a different style of play.. the reason for me why Japan and Korea can form national teams easily and prepare them well is because first they already have a system of play.. most of the players there have been playing within a system of play very specific to Japan or Korea.. so most of the players have adapted this even until their professional careers.. so when the time comes to gather for national team camp, it is easy to have chemistry no matter who the players are, because the system of play (speed, motion and shooting) are already there..
unlike in Pilipinas, iba iba talaga tayo maglaro.. not just we play similarly to the USA (since we are heavily influenced) but we really have no system of play and iba iba talaga, barangay bara bara type.. so when we convene as a national team for training camp, dios mio, we can't just have a 1 month training camp.. dapat 3 months at the very least because basically we are always starting from scratch.. we unlearn, we learn, then we make it work cohesively... kaya mahirap talaga preparation for Gilas.. we need a lot of time because that is the truth..
no need to form a team EXCULSIVELY from the young age.. there is no national team in the world who has this formula.. it just seems the case for some national teams because their youth program is strong and in sync with the seniors that talent from a young age will be carried over to the seniors team THUS continuity..
secondly we really have a different style of play.. the reason for me why Japan and Korea can form national teams easily and prepare them well is because first they already have a system of play.. most of the players there have been playing within a system of play very specific to Japan or Korea.. so most of the players have adapted this even until their professional careers.. so when the time comes to gather for national team camp, it is easy to have chemistry no matter who the players are, because the system of play (speed, motion and shooting) are already there..
unlike in Pilipinas, iba iba talaga tayo maglaro.. not just we play similarly to the USA (since we are heavily influenced) but we really have no system of play and iba iba talaga, barangay bara bara type.. so when we convene as a national team for training camp, dios mio, we can't just have a 1 month training camp.. dapat 3 months at the very least because basically we are always starting from scratch.. we unlearn, we learn, then we make it work cohesively... kaya mahirap talaga preparation for Gilas.. we need a lot of time because that is the truth..
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DAdmiral2
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It's not realistic to get much reps in official FiBA competition representing your national team, at best preperation for FIBA tournament is 1 month in a year .
almost all elite world class level players have a mother team (whether it be school or a club). It is in respective mother teams whether High school age or pro age (mid 20s) where one gets exposure and develops. The reality though is world class level exposure at different age levels for a full time mother team (minimum 6 months a year ) is NOT available in the Philippines . One realy has to go overseas to get that exposure.
all top ranked FIBA perforing teams have majority of tbeir playees who have experience in these major leagues (college age and above), we do NOT need to reinvent the wheel, this is the blue print almost every successful national team has gone through.
almost all elite world class level players have a mother team (whether it be school or a club). It is in respective mother teams whether High school age or pro age (mid 20s) where one gets exposure and develops. The reality though is world class level exposure at different age levels for a full time mother team (minimum 6 months a year ) is NOT available in the Philippines . One realy has to go overseas to get that exposure.
all top ranked FIBA perforing teams have majority of tbeir playees who have experience in these major leagues (college age and above), we do NOT need to reinvent the wheel, this is the blue print almost every successful national team has gone through.
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greenarcher2
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Schroder 1/15 from the field LOL
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zuma1692
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ang sama laro ni schroeder.. but germany still leading..
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hmbopbaduwap2
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What a game for Zagars, Germany survives Latvia despite Schroder's bad game
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Marsh Mello2
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What a heartbreaking moment for Bertans. He knew he kinda rushed that shot. Germany survives and advances. Salute to the Latvians though for fighting back and staying in the game
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JAMSKIE2
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It's not realistic to get much reps in official FiBA competition representing your national team, at best preperation for FIBA tournament is 1 month in a year .
almost all elite world class level players have a mother team (whether it be school or a club). It is in respective mother teams whether High school age or pro age (mid 20s) where one gets exposure and develops. The reality though is world class level exposure at different age levels for a full time mother team (minimum 6 months a year ) is NOT available in the Philippines . One realy has to go overseas to get that exposure.
all top ranked FIBA perforing teams have majority of tbeir playees who have experience in these major leagues (college age and above), we do NOT need to reinvent the wheel, this is the blue print almost every successful national team has gone through.
Correct.
That is what almost all (if not all) national teams are doing - do training camp & play pocket tournaments, invitational tourneys & tune up games anywhere during the June, July, August, September period when all (except PBA ) pro basketball leagues in the world are on their off season theby making their respective national players available for national team training.
So for instance, if a national team trains for one monrh within the june to september period & does that every year, in a 4-year cycle, that national team has an equivalent training period of 4 months. This exluding the few days training (usually 10 days) a national team gets to prepare for every window qualifier.
Problem is, we can't do this thing with Gilas on a yearly basis becoz our PBA Gilas prospects aren't available during the June to September period since the PBA season is ongoing by this period. Yung available lang sa atin eh yung mga B-league & KBL Gilas players. That is why its crucial that PBA synchronizes its calendar with the FIBA calendar.
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JOI2dWorld2
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Given the same amount of preparation (those NTs you mentioned have been together for years), a full-strength US team will demolish any team, even those powerhouses you mentioned. Yes, they have had close games with Spain etc. but they still won due to sheer talent. Just imagine if they also have the same amount of (and gave the same importance to) prep.
The 2023 WC US team is not nearly close to being the A Team and they're still destroying teams left and right (granted they lost to a sweet-shooting Lithuania team but they are still the absolute favorites to win it all).
Talent and system are the two main ingredients for success. The US has loads of the former and they just need a little bit of the latter--goes to show that they are still the number one basketball power and the gap from them to no. 2 is not that close I think.
he will not understand that guy changed stance every time a team wins, last time he was saying that Serbia will be in trouble against DR as they don't have some that can stop KAT, after Serbia spanked DR and after Serbia won against Lithuania he changed his tune, his doing it to sound smart but he can't put his money where his mouth as one poster is challenging him for a bet, just take everything he says with a grain of salt what you can get from someone pretending to be a greek and denies it every time someone calls him by his old user name
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JOI2dWorld2
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Canada can. Just my opinion.
this USA team they can, but i think a full strength USA team will still be hard to beat, though we really don't know what it looks like to be a full A team as the talent pool is too deep, with the point guards alone they can choose from Curry, Lillard, Irving, Morant , Fox, Haliburton, Young, Brunson if they want to have a defensive guard they can even add Smart , and i am not even mentioning the other positions, its only in the center position where team USA's talent pool look shallow
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DAdmiral2
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Got this trivia from a German , in 1998 after a dismal Football World cup , the German Football federation decided to change the way they do things, my German friend said the change wasn't in how the National team formation or preperation , but it was how they developed players , and the focus of their youth academies , fast forward by 2014 , they won the Football World cup.
While Football, we ( SBP) can learn something from the Germans. According to my friend, there was little they can do to improve in preparation and formation of the NT, which in hindsight is true , cause we will always be limited with environmental constraints
It's really developed of a players where we can make an impact.
I found this article that supports what my friend said
https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/is-germany-s-world-cup-triumph-triumph-of-management
At the core is " player development '
While Football, we ( SBP) can learn something from the Germans. According to my friend, there was little they can do to improve in preparation and formation of the NT, which in hindsight is true , cause we will always be limited with environmental constraints
It's really developed of a players where we can make an impact.
I found this article that supports what my friend said
https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/is-germany-s-world-cup-triumph-triumph-of-management
At the core is " player development '
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greenarcher2
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Canada has a really good coach. A European who coaches in the NBA.
Olynyk playing for Canada since 2008 or 16yrs old.
Olynyk playing for Canada since 2008 or 16yrs old.
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Dotch2
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Canada vs Slovenia - -tied 50 at HT.
Battle of the same sized - mid sized position-less squads. Both squads have 6'4 - 6'9 switchable / versatile players on the floor. These 2 teams should provide the blue print to PHL basketball, on how to play 5-out with ball dominant players (Luka and SGA), without being so tall.
Battle of the same sized - mid sized position-less squads. Both squads have 6'4 - 6'9 switchable / versatile players on the floor. These 2 teams should provide the blue print to PHL basketball, on how to play 5-out with ball dominant players (Luka and SGA), without being so tall.
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greenarcher2
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Canada vs Slovenia - -tied 50 at HT.
Battle of the same sized - mid sized position-less squads. Both squads have 6'4 - 6'9 switchable / versatile players on the floor. These 2 teams should provide the blue print to PHL basketball, on how to play 5-out with ball dominant players (Luka and SGA), without being so tall.
But we don't have a PG as good as Luka or SGA.
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