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Fiba World Cup 2023 Philippines

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Rds said:
I think it was Chots own fault. He was enamored with playing Pogoy as a spotup SG. So he had the bright idea of making JC as PG to open spotup shooters like Pogoy when JC is actually better as a scorer not a facilitator. Abando, unlike Pogoy, is more of a defensive player that doesnt really need to score to stay in the game. JC could slide to SG and Dwight to PG and Abando as SF.

Also, the Chinese perimeter players are not as good defensively as the other teams. Maybe Chot didnt trust Dwight to create against the other teams leaving it to JC.

Regardless, Chot should have picked a PG who was not a defensive mismatch. This could have made JCs job easier and our offense more unpredictable. Unfortunately Scottie was a waste of a slot here. Well CJ too. But SBP and SMC are to blame here. They did not pick a bigger PG. Scottie is an awkward slasher st this level. Also, they did not train CJ to be a PG. What a waste of athletic talent.
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first 4 games i think they were way too stiff and fixated on running plays when they should've played loose. that's when they're at their best. it was like they're running all these sets just to show they belong when they haven't really mastered how to execute those plays. but honestly, no one on that Chinese team could guard JC
 
Rds said:
I think it was Chots own fault. He was enamored with playing Pogoy as a spotup SG. So he had the bright idea of making JC as PG to open spotup shooters like Pogoy when JC is actually better as a scorer not a facilitator. Abando, unlike Pogoy, is more of a defensive player that doesnt really need to score to stay in the game. JC could slide to SG and Dwight to PG and Abando as SF.

Also, the Chinese perimeter players are not as good defensively as the other teams. Maybe Chot didnt trust Dwight to create against the other teams leaving it to JC.

Regardless, Chot should have picked a PG who was not a defensive mismatch. This could have made JCs job easier and our offense more unpredictable. Unfortunately Scottie was a waste of a slot here. Well CJ too. But SBP and SMC are to blame here. They did not pick a bigger PG. Scottie is an awkward slasher st this level. Also, they did not train CJ to be a PG. What a waste of athletic talent.
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Bolick is the player missing. Creator and reliable 3pt shooter.
 
Major props to Clarkson, Dwight, Edu, Junemar, and Abando.

The rest, ehhhh. And I'm so surprised with the BGSM boys. But nonetheless, have to build off this for the upcoming stints and learn from the + and -.

BTW, those post-game Chot quotes sound horrible. Is it just me, or does he sound like a gaslighting ex, wtf?

Please indeed be gone from this team forever, please? Just stick to the PBA.
 

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impracticaljokers2000 said:
Absolutely toxic fans.
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And it was fans' fault to want things to be better? Go to the pages of the other teams losing games and there is no difference between them and the Gilas fans.

He blundered alot and was given leeway. Well, it's fans' fault because he blundered alot, isn't it?
 
OstinYorHim said:
Major props to Clarkson, Dwight, Edu, Junemar, and Abando.

The rest, ehhhh. And I'm so surprised with the BGSM boys. But nonetheless, have to build off this for the upcoming stints and learn from the + and -.

BTW, those post-game Chot quotes sound horrible. Is it just me, or does he sound like a gaslighting ex, wtf?

Please indeed be gone from this team forever, please? Just stick to the PBA.
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He has no shortage of believers that keeps his ego afloat no matter how many times he gets booed. See above for proof. LOL
 
ja.he said:
And it was fans' fault to want things to be better? Go to the pages of the other teams losing games and there is no difference between them and the Gilas fans.
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The Chinese and Koreans if you can find their comments and translate are way way more ruthless than Pinoy basketball fans. I feel particularly bad for Zhou.
 
sheesh he has already resigned and people are still bashing him no end trying to justify their power tripping pretentious selves

i won't be surprised if we've seen the last of clarkson too after he saw how classless and toxic pinoys are
 
wow so just because others are bashing and hating so should we? what twisted morals, these people were probably absent at school the day this was taught.
 
not to discount Japan but can they beat the teams that we faced, they will be favorited against Angola and China for sure but im curious to see how they will fare against Italy , Dom and SSD they did what they need to do but most of the teams they faced were the worst of their respective regions
 
if you guys calling filipino fans toxic for things like these, wait till you see football fans , filipino fans will look like an angel compare to them , and it may be a cliche but coaching is a thankless job and for sure when he accepted the job he is aware about what might happened in case he fail, i know he is confident enough hence the statement 'judge me after the world cup" so i think it's fair for the fans to judge him now as it came from him not from the fans
 
JOI2dWorld said:
not to discount Japan but can they beat the teams that we faced, they will be favorited against Angola and China for sure but im curious to see how they will fare against Italy , Dom and SSD they did what they need to do but most of the teams they faced were the worst of their respective regions
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Germany and Australia the worst in their respective regions? Finland is a strong team, Venezuela is a strong team that I actually expected them to lose to. They had just as hard if not harder route. Only team they should have beat was Cape Verde.
 
Kaireem said:
wow so just because others are bashing and hating so should we? what twisted morals, these people were probably absent at school the day this was taught.
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"Hating" is sometimes just another word for criticism to defend the feelings of thin skinned people. It's natural to want criticize and want to get rid of qualities that makes you uncompetitive and fade into irrelevance in the world, it's just survival of the fittest. Not every kid needs a trophy, if there's trophy for everyone then what is the point of competition? Just go home and jerk off till the sun stops shining
 
Gilas in the tuneup games struggled against the European teams and I believe the only Euro team they beat was a youth team
 
Look who's talking?

Who really has the twisted morals here? The one who keeps on gaslighting people or the one who just wants to voice-out their sentiments?
 
TheRodster21 said:
Germany and Australia the worst in their respective regions? Finland is a strong team, Venezuela is a strong team that I actually expected them to lose to. They had just as hard if not harder route. Only team they should have beat was Cape Verde.
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im talking about the teams they beat that is why the phrase most of the teams they beat 3/5 , FInland is the worst european country in the tournament though might be a toss up with the disappointing France , Venezuela is the worst latin american country in the tournament while its a toss up between cape verde and cote d' ivoire for Africa , their lost to Germany and Australia is not surprising as they are top teams . while Finland is a mid tier european team by european standards, Venezuela is far from the team that they had before that even Cape Verde was able to beat them, is Finland better than Italy ? is Venezuela better than Dominican Republic ? and last is Cape Verde better than SSD?
 
Let Japan celebrate this. 2 consecutive Olympic appearances though the one is because they were hosts but nonetheless let them celebrate. They did the right things. Kudos to them!

BUT I think that will be shortlived. Because from what I have seen, Japan never changed the way they play. They just made it the best version. Speed, precision and shooting. They will live and die with that. Once that is figured out in the Asian region back to the drawing boards yan.

We in the meantime is even far from our best version. Heck we don’t even know out version. Once we crack it o god who knows where we will be.

And remember South Korea still looms which I think overall is a better team than Japan. Too bad they backed out of tournaments due to covid and political issues. Imagine that South Korea is still there.

so let Japan celebrate for now….
 
Choke's answers to the press where he deflects blame to the fans instead of acknowledging their shortcomings specially on the SBP's side is why he is undeserving of any slack. He is the de facto spokesman of the SBP given that Panlilio is never interviewed by journalists. The average fan do not even know who he is. He is in charge of damage control and his perceived arrogance fuels the hatred of the fans even further.

His actions run contrary to his statements. For someone who did "not want" this stint, he had the time to tailor a signature suit for this event.

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zuma169 said:
Let Japan celebrate this. 2 consecutive Olympic appearances though the one is because they were hosts but nonetheless let them celebrate. They did the right things. Kudos to them!

BUT I think that will be shortlived. Because from what I have seen, Japan never changed the way they play. They just made it the best version. Speed, precision and shooting. They will live and die with that. Once that is figured out in the Asian region back to the drawing boards yan.

We in the meantime is even far from our best version. Heck we don’t even know out version. Once we crack it o god who knows where we will be.

And remember South Korea still looms which I think overall is a better team than Japan. Too bad they backed out of tournaments due to covid and political issues. Imagine that South Korea is still there.

so let Japan celebrate for now….
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with Hachimura Japan will be a different animal as they will have the best asian player, plus they are still not trying to naturalize another nba player , with Hachimura and Watanabe they will always have the edge as no asian country that has 2 rotational NBA players and Hachimura with his experience with LA will just make him a much better player than the last time he wore tha akatsuki jersey
 
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