I have an honest to goodness question and hopefully get an honest to goodness answer.. let's just say we retain the result and performance Gilas had against Dominican Republic and Italy, which we weren't really blown out and were competitive. But the difference is we won against Angola.. we still didn't go to the second round.. Is it still the same angst against chot reyes?
I mean, I think that was the expected result, hope to win Dominicana, WIN Angola, more likely lose to Italy..
just curious.. because it seems we were hoping to win all games, which makes us the top team in group A, unbeaten.. that is unprecedented in Asian basketball..
I highly doubt as well na rin naman na with his showing and the recent fiasco na pahirapan makuha, that SBP would still move heaven and earth plus PAY him just to secure his services.
He will probably get the same treatment that Romeo had. BLACKLISTED.
So hopefully, SBP is appealing Kouame’s case to be a local player
if that happens our frontcourt is secured.
For NP, I want a tall do it all forward like Rondae Jefferson
these 3 comes to mind
Chris Mccolough
Terrence Jones
Quincy Miller
Previous names floating included Thomas Bryant, Noah Vonleh, and DJ Wilson.
Nakakadiri panoorin si JC meaning how is this guy a 20 ppg NBA scorer? Lousy handles, poor court vision, madali ibody check, walang twitch yung galaw, puro kanan lang. Bat mas dominante at effortless pa tignan si Edwards of Sudan and an nba reject in Rondae? It’s like ordering in Shopee, you thought you’re getting a shiny new toy, only to be disappointed because you’re getting a dirty defective one. Scammed.
I think, if we won against Angola, we wouldnt attribute that to the doing of Chot. Gilas seems to be playing unorganized basketball....they are keeping it close due to the sheer talent of the players and in particular, Jordan Clarkson.......even if you are coaching Gilas with thw same players, it think you would get more or less the same result.....baka better pa.
another honest opinion/question, with everyone hating on CCR, saying he did everything wrong.. wala syang kwenta.. if that is the case, then i think the game with DR, Angola and Italy were supposed to be a blow out.. we almost won against DR, lost only in the end against Angola (in fact led by 11) and was very competitive against a number 10 ranked, unbeaten in preparation games with Italy..
so minus the hatred against CCR, is everything wrong really? we didn't do anything right? is there a possibility to discuss that as well that (well Japan won against Finland) but we are the only Asian team to have competitive games against our groupmates? sounds silver lining/moral victory right? but aren't we supposed to discuss this as well so that we can carry this over moving forward?
puro negativity eh!!!! nakakaawa mga players affected din yan mga yan... they are the ones who worked their butts off against opponents more skilled and even stronger than us..
Spacing and lack of help on this team sucks. One of the worst shooting teams in the tournament gives defenses more leeway to focus on one guy, his handles look fine but he’s running into double triple teams, in the Angola game the whole defense would collapse on him and force him into tough spots. No one else on this team has been a serious threat or stepped up. Big difference compared to nba with better spacing and better teammates
honestly Clarkson has been a miracle worker keeping these games close. Without him these would be blowouts.
another honest opinion/question, with everyone hating on CCR, saying he did everything wrong.. wala syang kwenta.. if that is the case, then i think the game with DR, Angola and Italy were supposed to be a blow out.. we almost won against DR, lost only in the end against Angola (in fact led by 11) and was very competitive against a number 10 ranked, unbeaten in preparation games with Italy..
so minus the hatred against CCR, is everything wrong really? we didn't do anything right? is there a possibility to discuss that as well that (well Japan won against Finland) but we are the only Asian team to have competitive games against our groupmates? sounds silver lining/moral victory right? but aren't we supposed to discuss this as well so that we can carry this over moving forward?
puro negativity eh!!!! nakakaawa mga players affected din yan mga yan... they are the ones who worked their butts off against opponents more skilled and even stronger than us..
I'm not gonna pin this on Chot, really. I'm gonna pin this on the SBP leadership for our lack of an actual program. We were having one until Tab was removed 18 months before the WC, and Chot had to make do with the time left. Helped that the PBA supported him this time.
Chot's just the lightning rod for this SBP management. Credit to the staff and to the players, but the management has to go.
Same here bro. The main culprit here is/are the people behind coach Tab's ouster as Gilas head coach. Unfortunately not too many Pinoy basketball fans realize that.
Honestly, I hate Al Panlilio much more than I hate Chot.
LMAO at someone dissing Clarkson. We would've lost by at least 20 points each game if not for him. The next best offensive option after him is RR freaking Pogoy in this team. Scottie and Malonzo were exposed in this tournament. Both are not world-class level.
another honest opinion/question, with everyone hating on CCR, saying he did everything wrong.. wala syang kwenta.. if that is the case, then i think the game with DR, Angola and Italy were supposed to be a blow out.. we almost won against DR, lost only in the end against Angola (in fact led by 11) and was very competitive against a number 10 ranked, unbeaten in preparation games with Italy..
so minus the hatred against CCR, is everything wrong really? we didn't do anything right? is there a possibility to discuss that as well that (well Japan won against Finland) but we are the only Asian team to have competitive games against our groupmates? sounds silver lining/moral victory right? but aren't we supposed to discuss this as well so that we can carry this over moving forward?
puro negativity eh!!!! nakakaawa mga players affected din yan mga yan... they are the ones who worked their butts off against opponents more skilled and even stronger than us..
another honest opinion/question, with everyone hating on CCR, saying he did everything wrong.. wala syang kwenta.. if that is the case, then i think the game with DR, Angola and Italy were supposed to be a blow out.. we almost won against DR, lost only in the end against Angola (in fact led by 11) and was very competitive against a number 10 ranked, unbeaten in preparation games with Italy..
so minus the hatred against CCR, is everything wrong really? we didn't do anything right? is there a possibility to discuss that as well that (well Japan won against Finland) but we are the only Asian team to have competitive games against our groupmates? sounds silver lining/moral victory right? but aren't we supposed to discuss this as well so that we can carry this over moving forward?
puro negativity eh!!!! nakakaawa mga players affected din yan mga yan... they are the ones who worked their butts off against opponents more skilled and even stronger than us..
Pangasinan ka o Ilokano? (OT)
I will still blame Chot he is the head coach after all. But I guess he is the last to blame in this so far clusterf$k. Here is my blame list I guess.
1. Al Panililio+Vargas - They were the ones who forced out Tab. Prep was doing well, even without PBA players, until they dropped Tab and swapped him with Chot
was it really one sided? i heard and read that tab also made unreasonable demands like choosing his tournaments, giving dickel more powers, encouraging the mainstays to avoid the pba, etc. was tab forced out or were panlilio and vargas forced to call tab's bluff?
Man choosing his tournaments. Didn't Chot do the same? That was Al P's excuse in his letter but was mum when Chot was skipping several games because of TNT. I'm not sure about Dickel. But I'm sure Dwight going to the B league was a good move. In fact this is a prime example that Tab may verbally say things as head coach of Ateneo e.g. recruiting Kai, but he won't stand in the way of the player's decision even if it means a loss to his team. I would even say this is a personal hurt by Al P. because his alma mater lost out on Dwight. Who did he encourage to avoid the PBA? You mean Thirdy and Navarro? Again, that's a commercial choice by the players. Money is better there. Would you say Kai is bad because he is not playing for the PBA? All I'm hearing are excuses. The guy gave good results despite 0 support from PBA players. All those reasons don't fly with what he actually did with the program while he was director. All the guy did was shatter expectations given the players he had. The Asiad with has-beens and JC Intal. The close game against France and NZ. Beating Korea 2x and almost beating Serbia with all amateurs. And what did Chot ever do after WC 2014? Benching Douthit, causing us to lose against Iran. Asking our players to shoot at our own goal. Not doing a thing to stop the Aussie brawl. The guy has embarassed us a lot of times while Tab has only done our team good. Al P. just wanted his friend Chot to replace a guy that was only doing good.
so in summary tab is an angel while al panlilio, ricky vargas and chot reyes are the devils incarnate?
really the sbp brass are that bad and they ganged up on poor tab?
so in summary tab is an angel while al panlilio, ricky vargas and chot reyes are the devils incarnate?
really the sbp brass are that bad and they ganged up on poor tab?
Well I heard some rumors that RIcky Viagras and Al Panlilio did not like the way Tab Baldwin encouraged his players to look for oppurtunities abroad. Again these players (Ramos, the Ravenas, Belangel, Navarro etc.) made the decision themselves to sign up and play in foreign leagues but the PBA and the SBP did not like that at all. Another rumor going around was that Tab directly communicated with MVP even though SBP was handed to Panlilio and Vargas and this did not sit well with these 2. I recall some ateneo alumni posters here detailed the story when Tab asked for some time off to grieve his brother who passed away and that he cant coach for a fiba window (an understandable reason) and he called up MVP about it and he was given the time off by the boss. And then MVP informed Vargas and Panlilio about it, the two felt slighted because Tab did not contact them about it and upon hearing the news Vargas called up Baldwin and berated the coach questioning him about his loyalty and accusing him of undermining the PBA by setting up players to go abroad. And one thing led to another that the SBP fired him for that and released baseless rumors etc.
As I recall alot of the alumni were mad at Panlilio for their treatment of Tab and them trying to ruin him with rumors. But one thing is a certain Tab Baldwin is a way better coach than Chot Reyes.