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Fiba World Cup 2023 Philippines

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With Edu's health a big question mark I would say Balti is the next best defensive big. He played decent against the two Leb teams in Dubai.

If you follow Edu's season today, He's doing fine, No health problems whatsoever.... He's a back up big man who gives his team atleast 5 pts, 5 rebs, 3 blks per game... That's good for a role player big that Gilas needs... No coach in the Philippines will gamble to not include him on 2023.. Unless he will injured again (Hope it's not)....
 
Serbia lose to Greece while Belgium beat UK/England (Great Britain) in their Group I games... Serbia still in danger although their last game is against UK at their home... No way Serbia will lose that game... For sake of ticket sales, MVP and WC organizers more needed Serbia to be there than Non basketball country like Belgium... Hope Serbia will take care of business against UK on Monday....
 
talent wise I don't think we're inferior to elite World level teams. this core can go far if kept intact. we can keep games close and competitive but we need someone like JC to make sure we dont crumble in the end. End-game execution killed us multiple times already. JC will always be an upgrade to JB, and at the World Level when you need a bucket during close games vs the likes of Serbia, France, Argentina.. you give the ball to someone who can score vs World-level defenders on a nightly basis.

Despite JB's familiarity with his teammates and chemistry displayed last night, Justin Brownlee's toughest competition lately is only the PBA.

JC just needs a month or 2 to build more chemistry with the core and to get accustomed to FIBA play as he still has the tendency to show boat and play hero ball. Also needs to work on his defensive awareness. He has always been a plug & play for Gilas, so he's relatively still inexperienced compared to his peers (Luka, Jokic, Giannis, Schroder) in FIBA. Let's see how a rigorous training camp can unleash the true potential of a JC-led Gilas team.

Come.on bro let's be realistic. Granting on your assertion that Philippines is not inferior to World Elite, why is it that there are ZERO , again I repeat Zero Pinoy players playing in the NBA ir Euro Leagueo (outside of Clarkson and Green who were both not Philippine trained anayways)...Malakas pals mga Pinoy and yet scouts are turning blind on them?
 
So you want Brownlee (PBA GOAT import) over Clarkson (NBA 6th man of the year)? Cmon!!! Are you smoking cocaine?

Robert na Robert! Welcome back Robert! Miss you bro and our discussions about Mikey Williams, Castro, Parks and TNT topics

Good to see you back!
 
The idea of building a core together for a generation, is minumim 2 to 4 years ( not a 2 month thing). This is indeed the most common blue print , even the 2014 Version of Gilas was a 2012 to 2014 thing .

Which brings me to this Version, who actually has played to most together and looking at 2027 WC would is likely to be there and gained a significant time together .

Let me call out the obvious
Kai
Dwight
Heading (actually)
Thirdy/Malonzo
Of course the NP ( and my take it's best to get a combo forward)

Maybe Carl, Mason , really don't know

But that really the essence , not a put together 2 month thing .

C'mon not Thirdy lol

Counting guys that are eligible and 28 years
old and younger excluding ineligibles that may or may not get exemption
Not sure on Edu though, until I see him in Gilas uniform

Kai
Amos
Tamayo
Balti
Malonzo
Ramos
Heading
Winston
 
Come.on bro let's be realistic. Granting on your assertion that Philippines is not inferior to World Elite, why is it that there are ZERO , again I repeat Zero Pinoy players playing in the NBA ir Euro Leagueo (outside of Clarkson and Green who were both not Philippine trained anayways)...Malakas pals mga Pinoy and yet scouts are turning blind on them?

While there are reasons for not going div1, litterarally there is NO eligible Pinoy who is a rotation player for a mid to high major Div 1 school. (Not even Dwight), and let's not fool ourselves there is no conspiracy for Euro league div1 (turkey, ACB etc) to Simply refuse offering Pinoys contracts over $1 M .
And if we haven't yet realize that there must be a reason why Asia littitally has not won a single gsme vs European teams in 8 official FIbA tournaments involving over 50 games for over 13 years (since 2010) c'mon this is denial already

The thing is qe have to take baby steps 1st , this will take time.to change , it's kind of absurd to expect to change wirh 2 months buildup and suddenly claim we arear par wih regular Euro and div1playes , this is disrespecting the accomplishments they've rightfully earned. .
 
From Twitter

Charles Tiu

Might be an unpopular opinion but at least in this level and at this point, Brownlee may be a better fit for Gilas than Clarkson. Yes we played a much weaker Lebanon team than the last, but JB fits the system, knows his teammates and doesn't always need the ball to be effective.

Ryan Alba
*whispers quietly* JB seems like a more dynamic naturalized player for Gilas compared to JC.

Ryan Alba
More than familiarity with PH basketball, it's his playing style that makes Justin Brownlee fit with this squad.

What makes him truly great isn't the scoring, it's always been his ability to play within a team context and create for himself and others.

Dude's portable.


Chris Tan

I will stick to what I initially said, I would keep BROWNLEE over CLARKSON. JUSTIN plays with his 100% effort the whole game and he already has the Filipino pride in him.
 
Simply based on roster composition, getting a NP combo forward fits better . Clarkson actually eats up opportunities shots for Parks and Dwight ( Gilas strength)
 
From Twitter

Charles Tiu

Might be an unpopular opinion but at least in this level and at this point, Brownlee may be a better fit for Gilas than Clarkson. Yes we played a much weaker Lebanon team than the last, but JB fits the system, knows his teammates and doesn't always need the ball to be effective.

Ryan Alba
*whispers quietly* JB seems like a more dynamic naturalized player for Gilas compared to JC.

Ryan Alba
More than familiarity with PH basketball, it's his playing style that makes Justin Brownlee fit with this squad.

What makes him truly great isn't the scoring, it's always been his ability to play within a team context and create for himself and others.

Dude's portable.


Chris Tan

I will stick to what I initially said, I would keep BROWNLEE over CLARKSON. JUSTIN plays with his 100% effort the whole game and he already has the Filipino pride in him.


We all get it but we also wish JB was only 28
 
Next time we naturalize a player, we should not only naturalize for size but how he will gel with the rest of the team.

Blatche and Clarkson, for all their talent and caliber, will take away lots of opportunities from other players.
 
Next time we naturalize a player, we should not only naturalize for size but how he will gel with the rest of the team.

Blatche and Clarkson, for all their talent and caliber, will take away lots of opportunities from other players.

They (SBP) need to consider the age as well.
The younger the NP (21 or 22yo) the better
 
From Twitter

Charles Tiu

Might be an unpopular opinion but at least in this level and at this point, Brownlee may be a better fit for Gilas than Clarkson. Yes we played a much weaker Lebanon team than the last, but JB fits the system, knows his teammates and doesn't always need the ball to be effective.

Ryan Alba
*whispers quietly* JB seems like a more dynamic naturalized player for Gilas compared to JC.

Ryan Alba
More than familiarity with PH basketball, it's his playing style that makes Justin Brownlee fit with this squad.

What makes him truly great isn't the scoring, it's always been his ability to play within a team context and create for himself and others.

Dude's portable.


Chris Tan

I will stick to what I initially said, I would keep BROWNLEE over CLARKSON. JUSTIN plays with his 100% effort the whole game and he already has the Filipino pride in him.

It's just one game and against a depleted team. I'll hold off my judgement until we've seen more from him.

Agree with analyzed. We need a combo forward/big man more than a defenseless black hole. If it were me though I'll get an ex NBAer equivalent of Kouame since that's will solve a lot of our problems.
 
They (SBP) need to consider the age as well.
The younger the NP (21 or 22yo) the better

Yeah, that's why the decision to naturalize Kouame is a good decision. He will be a good investment.

He is only 25. He was naturalized at age 23. He debuted for Gilas seniors at age 23.

A pro experience will improve him further.
 
Drama between the MVP and SMC groups is probably the only reason why Brownlee wasnt naturalized sooner. Maybe even a side effect of players leaving for abroad is the two camps coming together and Brownlee finally getting citizenship.
 
Robert na Robert! Welcome back Robert! Miss you bro and our discussions about Mikey Williams, Castro, Parks and TNT topics

Good to see you back!

I don't know who is he but i'm not too familiar with local professional league.... I'm sorry dude... But in case of Clarkson - Brownlee debate, The reason why Clarkson still should be the NP because he will get much needed training after his NBA season, I heard it will be 2 months... So that's enough for a guy that has incredible talent... If Clarkson can't commit for us in 2 months then i would say Brownlee should take that spot.... But another thing here is Philippines will play also in Asian Games 3 weeks after the FIBA WC... If Brownlee will play in the WC then he will be gassed up in Asian Games... So it means 100% Clarkson in FIBA WC while Brownlee in Asian Games....
 
Simply based on roster composition, getting a NP combo forward fits better . Clarkson actually eats up opportunities shots for Parks and Dwight ( Gilas strength)

But JC and Dwight have good combination when they played together... It was JC, Kai and Dwight who shined in 4th window... The issue with Parks is that he's not consistent on defense... No question on offense but Parks should play full effort on defense when he is on the court...
 
From Twitter

Charles Tiu

Might be an unpopular opinion but at least in this level and at this point, Brownlee may be a better fit for Gilas than Clarkson. Yes we played a much weaker Lebanon team than the last, but JB fits the system, knows his teammates and doesn't always need the ball to be effective.

Ryan Alba
*whispers quietly* JB seems like a more dynamic naturalized player for Gilas compared to JC.

Ryan Alba
More than familiarity with PH basketball, it's his playing style that makes Justin Brownlee fit with this squad.

What makes him truly great isn't the scoring, it's always been his ability to play within a team context and create for himself and others.

Dude's portable.


Chris Tan

I will stick to what I initially said, I would keep BROWNLEE over CLARKSON. JUSTIN plays with his 100% effort the whole game and he already has the Filipino pride in him.

Those persons didn't knew that FIBA WC and Asian Games are only weeks apart? Did they want players will be gassed up again, same what happened in 2014? And FIBA WC is a high level competition... So the good scenario should be JC for FIBA WC and JB for Asian Games... that is a win win scenario for all....
 
It's just one game and against a depleted team. I'll hold off my judgement until we've seen more from him.

Agree with analyzed. We need a combo forward/big man more than a defenseless black hole. If it were me though I'll get an ex NBAer equivalent of Kouame since that's will solve a lot of our problems.

Yeah, agree on this, Lebanon send low tier level players (except Saoud, El Darwich and Hayk).. They should not hype that win.. And maybe Jordan will rest Tucker and Al Dwairi too, since they are already qualified... And World Cup is a different animal than any Asian competitions... I would say they should think wisely with their decision... remember "Repentance comes later"..
 
I don't know who is he but i'm not too familiar with local professional league.... I'm sorry dude... But in case of Clarkson - Brownlee debate, The reason why Clarkson still should be the NP because he will get much needed training after his NBA season, I heard it will be 2 months... So that's enough for a guy that has incredible talent... If Clarkson can't commit for us in 2 months then i would say Brownlee should take that spot.... But another thing here is Philippines will play also in Asian Games 3 weeks after the FIBA WC... If Brownlee will play in the WC then he will be gassed up in Asian Games... So it means 100% Clarkson in FIBA WC while Brownlee in Asian Games....

It’s okay robert.. Good thing you’re controlling your temper and behaviour here in forum.. Everything good.. :)
 
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