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Fiba World Cup 2023 Philippines

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A Spain PnR with Kai and either Balti or Tamayo would be a sight to see. Kahit ganun lang, just to involve them. Drop-offs, rim runs for Kai, and off the screen plays for the two young PFs to get clean shots off. Nenad might take care of that aspect.

Even a simple staggered screen where one pops and the other rolls would've gotten Ange better looks inside. Do you guys think bolick's [lack of] height limited his passing visibility in game against NZL? Wasnt used to seeing bolick not being able to create off high ball screens.
 
Big PFs and SFs. You cant field in what you don't wven have.

What I'm saying is stop putting players in bigger positions. It puts a strain on the only big guy in the team, Kouame. If guys like Chiu and Go can handle some minutes against teams in the Abdullah cup, why are they not in the pool? Why was Navarro decent with Tab but not with Chot? Because Chots system has noy been working for a long time. The last time it worked was only against Taiwan. If his core really is theTab Gilas team, why doesnt he use their plays? That system has been competitive against high level teams. It doesnt require advanced skills from your SF. Theoretically the more mobile guys like Oftana can play it. But of course the main guy would be Balti, previously a center. Thr PG position can even be played by an SG. All with the goal of being able to trot out a bigger defensive team. What do you expect defensively from a team with 6'4 Dwit as PF? Of course it will be strained. It doesnt have the length to cover the paint and recover the perimeter.
 
Yeah, we lost to Jordan twice w/o Kai, with him, Al Dwairi will bleeding his points inside.. I'm sure Al Dwairi is still better than Kai, but atleast the latter will lessen his production when he will be in the court... And we know Korea is slightly better than Jordan even both will go full force...

Of course, Kai would have helped. But winning Abdullah cup doesnt matter. Its seeing how our guys develop. Dave in particular was a revelation. While Dwight was stiff and was already stopped by the teams there, Dave was able to make plays for others. He was able to fish some fouls against Al Dwahiri. We want to see our potential 2023 guys make strides in their game now by being part of these competitions.
 
Yes, Chot has that stubbornness. He tend to insist on something like having a platoon of undersized guards. I hope that won't be the case. Heard he used DDO with TNT but has added some tweaks like the Spain PNR. But Tab is also stubborn in his own ways. Like sticking with players who aren't just vertically challenged but are also athletically challenged. Result? We got demolished by an athletic Dominican Republic after that fantastic near upset over Serbia

Note that our biggest guard, Dwit was not with us. Thirdy struggled up to Abdullah cup. Dave only showed glimpses of being able to handle more minutes in the Abdullah cup. Tab uses, SJ, RJ and Matt because they are the best PGs he has. But he has been training Dwit, Dave and Rey to be PGs. That was a bad matchup for them. But again it was for training. Who knows, Daves better showing in the Abdullah cup was because of that.
 
Another team that we would not see in next year's World Cup is Russia... FIBA announced the suspension of Russia due to latest international conflict that we all already know.. Another quality team will be missing again after South Korea... Maybe next here is Belarus... What is your opinion about this latest development?

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/fiba/1...-RSYf2S43NQlW2bTi91kYlhUJv4Qmay4joGWpCkfAw7R4

I was really hoping to hook up with some hot Russian girls during the tournament. Ditto for Qatar 2022.
 
Another team that we would not see in next year's World Cup is Russia... FIBA announced the suspension of Russia due to latest international conflict that we all already know.. Another quality team will be missing again after South Korea... Maybe next here is Belarus... What is your opinion about this latest development?

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/fiba/1...-RSYf2S43NQlW2bTi91kYlhUJv4Qmay4joGWpCkfAw7R4

so let's expect to see Russia drop from their current 14th ranking due to the war. would no longer talk about if the decision is fair or not for the athletes, its a separate debate all together.
 
Hey you could still get some hot Russian girls but not for free if you know what I mean lol

Depends if I get my OT pay on time lol.

Heard Thailand has a fair number of Russian/Ukrainian chicks for a decent price.
 
don't worry we still have the Balkan girls :) :)

Hey you could still get some hot Russian girls but not for free if you know what I mean lol

Depends if I get my OT pay on time lol.

Heard Thailand has a fair number of Russian/Ukrainian chicks for a decent price.

Yeah, I really want to try fucking a 5'11+ woman. Tallest I slept with was 5'8.

Can our government offer an asylum for Ukrainian women and children? Maybe, we can take them as our refugees and naturalized some of them. Hehehe
 
Just check and rewatched some 2014 and 2019 WC. Ofc, Dray was our Best Player.

But for locals it is:

2014: Alapag

2019: Perez, Bolick

That's why I like to reward Both Perez and Bolick to be in Gilas 2023 Lineup. I think they deserve anothe r stint.
I know they are pba players, and ibn generally hates pba. But Perez and Bolick along with Oftana are pba players who Imo are needed for WC. (Anyway with Coach Chot, I know they will be chosen)

That 30 players lineup will be mixed naman of pba, b league, t1 league, NBL NZ, NBL Aus, US NCAA, Collegiate.
I am really eager and excited to know who are in the 30 man pool.

Privacy pa daw kasi, because players and their respective teams may decline. Lol

In short, they do not want people/fans to know who are the players invited, but declined by the team or the player utself.
 
What I'm saying is stop putting players in bigger positions. It puts a strain on the only big guy in the team, Kouame. If guys like Chiu and Go can handle some minutes against teams in the Abdullah cup, why are they not in the pool? Why was Navarro decent with Tab but not with Chot? Because Chots system has noy been working for a long time. The last time it worked was only against Taiwan. If his core really is theTab Gilas team, why doesnt he use their plays? That system has been competitive against high level teams. It doesnt require advanced skills from your SF. Theoretically the more mobile guys like Oftana can play it. But of course the main guy would be Balti, previously a center. Thr PG position can even be played by an SG. All with the goal of being able to trot out a bigger defensive team. What do you expect defensively from a team with 6'4 Dwit as PF? Of course it will be strained. It doesnt have the length to cover the paint and recover the perimeter.

Yeah, we are already producing materials for big SFs (6'4"-6'6") and PFs (6'7"-6'8"). In fact, we have Tamayo and Baltazar as combo forwards, and possibly Oftana and Navarro for this iteration of Gilas. The challenge is tweaking the system to maximize these guys. Chot has to learn to involve the 4 and the 5, and have tall 3s, even if they can't handle the ball.

Now Tamayo and Balti could be as involved as RDO was back in the day, as they have a good 3-point shot and have some skill in the perimeter and the post. I might see some more future taller bigmen in a similar role to RDO, although not necessarily as combo forwards like Tamayo and Balti.

I'm kinda concerned about Chot's choice for the 3-spot, though. Will he adjust his style to fit bigger SFs like Oftana, Navarro, and Lebron, or will he instead opt to put Dwight, Thirdy, and the likes of Pogoy or Perez at that position?
 
Yeah, we are already producing materials for big SFs (6'4"-6'6") and PFs (6'7"-6'8"). In fact, we have Tamayo and Baltazar as combo forwards, and possibly Oftana and Navarro for this iteration of Gilas. The challenge is tweaking the system to maximize these guys. Chot has to learn to involve the 4 and the 5, and have tall 3s, even if they can't handle the ball.

Now Tamayo and Balti could be as involved as RDO was back in the day, as they have a good 3-point shot and have some skill in the perimeter and the post. I might see some more future taller bigmen in a similar role to RDO, although not necessarily as combo forwards like Tamayo and Balti.

I'm kinda concerned about Chot's choice for the 3-spot, though. Will he adjust his style to fit bigger SFs like Oftana, Navarro, and Lebron, or will he instead opt to put Dwight, Thirdy, and the likes of Pogoy or Perez at that position?

To be honest, I dont think Navarro will make the Final 12 in 2023 WC
 
To be honest, I dont think Navarro will make the Final 12 in 2023 WC

Sucks if he doesn't, because I think we need depth at SF. We can't have Oftana, or even Dwight, as our only full-time player at SF. If Navarro's out, then I think we need another good-sized SF to replace him for 2023.
 
Sucks if he doesn't, because I think we need depth at SF. We can't have Oftana, or even Dwight, as our only full-time player at SF. If Navarro's out, then I think we need another good-sized SF to replace him for 2023.

Maybe just a matter of small sample size.

But I don't think he fits and thrives under Coach Chot's system.

Oftana will be my ideal SF. Then Dwight as SG/SF, same with maybe Thirdy. I think Perez will be used as SG/SF too instead of PG/SG. So I am really not sure if he will be in Final 12. Anyway, probably he will be in the pool naman.

So galingan nyo na lang sa practice. Though it will be very hard for him to compete against the names I mentioned. And I even left off Adams and Parks due to unique reasons.
 
Maybe just a matter of small sample size.

But I don't think he fits and thrives under Coach Chot's system.

Oftana will be my ideal SF. Then Dwight as SG/SF, same with maybe Thirdy. I think Perez will be used as SG/SF too instead of PG/SG. So I am really not sure if he will be in Final 12. Anyway, probably he will be in the pool naman.

So galingan nyo na lang sa practice. Though it will be very hard for him to compete against the names I mentioned. And I even left off Adams and Parks due to unique reasons.

IMO, Navarro isn't world level prospect. Comparing him to Norwood, both aren't good outside shooters but the latter is much better in every other aspects, even this post-prime version of norwood

Nevertheless, for the near future, we will need players at SF, like I repeatedly say. We are going to sacrifice length, size, especially on defense, if we roll with a lineup which has Thirdy, Perez, or even Pogoy at SF.

We'll need in my opinion, two or three of Oftana, Lebron, probably Kobe, and even naturalize a player (possibly CMac) to fill that hole at SF. Maybe Caelum if the kid's ready.

That aside, I agree that Navarro is not a world-level player talentwise, but I'd argue that he'd be a good placeholder for that position, until more talented wings like Lebron and probably Caelum are ready. Just serviceable, not elite.

I may be stubborn, but that's my take on him, and our SF.
 
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Ok, i agree, as a placeholder but what are his roles really? How was he utilized by Tab in comparison to with Chot? From what i see, he's basically there for his on ball defense and not really expected to score. Of course, occasionally, there'll be games where he'll knock some open 3s but, that's just a bonus. If it didn't come in that game against NZ, it doesn't by any means mean he wasn't utilized properly or doesn't fit. Anyway, i think we should be more concerned about how potential key players fit, the likes of Bollick or by some sudden stroke of luck, juan. Thirdy, seems to be a perfect fit. He wasn't on my list before. Dwight, he seems fit as well. Kai, aj and the others remain to be seen. As for Kouame, if we're talking naturalized spot, i see him in the same way as Navarro but, if as a local, well, Chot really needs find ways to utilize him properly

If we don't use the NP spot on Kouame who will start at center? Kai cannot do it. AJ is still recovering from injury. June Mar and Japeth are not starter level centers in Fiba. Kouame is still our best center. He did well against Serbia IRC. He is a bit weak on low post bigs but again his PNR defense more than makes up for it. I would argue it's Chot's small ball that makes him vulnerable. Tab uses taller but quick players to pack the paint. Chot wants to play Dwit as PF. No matter how you we malign Go or Chiu they did decently backing up Kouame. How about Erram? Foul trouble. Tab alway tries to manage Kouames minutes. You harp on his defense on Al Dwaihiri. But he scored double figures there IRC. And we won a game there and could've won 2 if Kouame was played. Your making Kouame out as trash because he is no Douthit. But with Kai, Balti, Karl and some bigs and SFS from PBA, do we need a dominant defender?

With Tab's system gone are the days when we relegated offense and defense to our NP, like a PBA import. Kouame just needs to be a decent defender and have some offense and our guys will help him out. But again, Chot's system calls for Dwit to play PF. So it's hopeless.
 
If we don't use the NP spot on Kouame who will start at center? Kai cannot do it. AJ is still recovering from injury. June Mar and Japeth are not starter level centers in Fiba. Kouame is still our best center. He did well against Serbia IRC. He is a bit weak on low post bigs but again his PNR defense more than makes up for it. I would argue it's Chot's small ball that makes him vulnerable. Tab uses taller but quick players to pack the paint. Chot wants to play Dwit as PF. No matter how you we malign Go or Chiu they did decently backing up Kouame. How about Erram? Foul trouble. Tab alway tries to manage Kouames minutes. You harp on his defense on Al Dwaihiri. But he scored double figures there IRC. And we won a game there and could've won 2 if Kouame was played. Your making Kouame out as trash because he is no Douthit. But with Kai, Balti, Karl and some bigs and SFS from PBA, do we need a dominant defender?

With Tab's system gone are the days when we relegated offense and defense to our NP, like a PBA import. Kouame just needs to be a decent defender and have some offense and our guys will help him out. But again, Chot's system calls for Dwit to play PF. So it's hopeless.

Ange vs Serbia.. he did well defensively

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Mukhang nagpaparamdam din Cmac as NP. But I don't think whe have time to naturalize him. (Hopefully he will be though for future NP pool)

Ange, JC, CMac, Brownlee, and that Ncaa Import(Sorry forgit his name) were all being touted as NP. Rn, it is only Ange and JP who can play as NP for us.

Idk, After all It is Coach Chot's decision. But based on history, Coach Chot selcted the more talented NP (Blatche Over Douthit). Let's see if he will do the same now (JC over Ange)

As for Cmac, if he is already NP, he may be the more balanced between Fit and Talent as NP. But he is not. Same case with Brownlee
 
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