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Fiba World Cup 2023 Philippines

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the age of past and current gilas players by 2023:

Taulava 50 yrs
Norwood 38 yrs
Lassiter 36 yrs
Aguilar 36 yrs
Abueva 35 yrs
Fajardo 34 yrs
Slaughter 34 yrs
Almazan 34 yrs
Wright 32 yrs
Romeo 31 yrs
Rosario 31 yrs
Pogoy 31 yrs
K Ravena 30 yrs

and the hopeful:

Clarkson 31 yrs
 
If I were to name a top 12 on the listed 23-man pool, I'll have this:

C
7'1 Kai Sotto
6'7 Isaac Go

PF
6'10 AJ Edu
6'7 Carl Tamayo
6'7 Troy Rike

SF
6'6 Paras
6'4 Dwight Ramos

SG
6'2 Thirdy Ravena
6'1 CJ Perez
6'1 Robert Bolick

PG
6'1 JGDL
5'11 Remy Martin
 
live_evil said:
Chot still in love with midget basketball. Tsk tsk
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If ur best player, best clutch performer, and best scorer from 2013 to present are all below 6'0, why would u not?

Toroman's small ball was worse and baldwin's deferred to his 2-pg lineup both in 2015 fiba asia and 2016 qualifiers. If coaches who are regarded as superior to chot in methods and strategies see some positive in it, why would chot fall out of love from smallball?
 
neo said:
Perez and bolick seems taller than thirdy so thirdy might just be 6'0 to 6' 1 only. And tratter is below 6'5.
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I'm pretty sure Thirdy is around 6'2.

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neo said:
If ur best player, best clutch performer, and best scorer from 2013 to present are all below 6'0, why would u not?

Toroman's small ball was worse and baldwin's deferred to his 2-pg lineup both in 2015 fiba asia and 2016 qualifiers. If coaches who are regarded as superior to chot in methods and strategies see some positive in it, why would chot fall out of love from smallball?
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no one can possibly be shocked more by chot's past midget nt selections than i. chot's past midgets simply did not have international-grade athleticism and shooting to justify being considered elite players. and chot included midgets in all positions!!! chot must have mellowed somewhere along the way, as he now recognizes bansots can only create bansot-sized results.

and yes, toro-man's smallball is bullshitty. euro running with no euro outside shooting versatility and shot-selection quality makes no sense at all.

this 23 for 23 has a lot more upsides and not too "midgety". their early identification means these young guys know they must step up their games this early or they would just become embarrassments. they also need to warfight with pba teams this early so that they know the rites of passage to manhood in pinoy ball. leaving them to practice too long in uaap high school and college ball will NOT help at all. the quality of uaap and ncaa games is very low.

if he gets a good 6-7 from this set , maybe 4-5 win/championship-ferocious vets from the pba for stability, and one more nba-grade naturalized center to neutralize great aussie/korean/euro centers, 2023 will be a very good year. and chot can retire in a blaze of glory.
 
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Smc will always be giant obstacle in forming a better and long term national team. kabila ang naka discover sila ang umani.
 
heinztein said:
Lol at the padded heights. Let me correct some of those info

Remy Martin- 5'11
Paul Desiderio- 6'0
Bolick- 6'1
CJ Perez- 6'1
Arvin Tolentino- 6'4
Thirdy Ravena- 6'2
JJ Alejandro- 6'0
Javee Mocon- 6'3
Isaac Go- 6'7
Abu Tratter- 6'5
Aj Edu- 6'10
Kai Sotto- 7'1
Kenmark Carino- 6'8

No idea about the other players
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Those are their heights in 2023. 😊LOL.
 
PaulLee3 said:
yes

http://sports.tv5.com.ph/basketball...rookie-draft-class-power-rankings-part-1-of-3

2. Kiefer Ravena (official height: 5’10 2/5” wingspan: 6’3” PG/SG – Ateneo de Manila University

Read more: http://sports.tv5.com.ph/basketball...lass-power-rankings-part-1-of-3#ixzz53Pke8Sqf
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As this is taken lying down it is padded by around 0.2 to 0.3 inches. But the wingspan is more important at 6'3". Thats decent for Asian level PG. From the picture Thirdy looks 2 to 3 inches taller and with much longer arms. Thirdy needs to transition to SG to be more effective internationally. But his athleticism and physicality seems to be pro level. Ala Jeron Teng.
 
Perez is around 6'2 or 6'1 but his wingspan seems to be average at best. He is much more skilled than Abueva but doesnthave the length.
 
charmed said:
no one can possibly be shocked more by chot's past midget nt selections than i. chot's past midgets simply did not have international-grade athleticism and shooting to justify being considered elite players. and chot included midgets in all positions!!! chot must have mellowed somewhere along the way, as he now recognizes bansots can only create bansot-sized results.

and yes, toro-man's smallball is bullshitty. euro running with no euro outside shooting versatility and shot-selection quality makes no sense at all.

this 23 for 23 has a lot more upsides and not too "midgety". their early identification means these young guys know they must step up their games this early or they would just become embarrassments. they also need to warfight with pba teams this early so that they know the rites of passage to manhood in pinoy ball. leaving them to practice too long in uaap high school and college ball will NOT help at all. the quality of uaap and ncaa games is very low.

if he gets a good 6-7 from this set , maybe 4-5 win/championship-ferocious vets from the pba for stability, and one more nba-grade naturalized center to neutralize great aussie/korean/euro centers, 2023 will be a very good year. and chot can retire in a blaze of glory.
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It has always been my personal opinion that its franz pumaren with dlsu who really made small ball a ttend and to great success.other college teams followed and many cagers stuck to it even in d pros as pba coaches also adapted it.heck, even tab does so in admu. Tab adapted.

Small ball in our national team will die a natural death less becos of chot or any smallball coach changing his brand but more on our player with size playing great ball so that depending on undersized but talented guards and wings is unnecessary.

Same with age. If d 2023 pool players do not shape up as envisioned, expect chot to add at least 2 30ish players, max of 4.
 
IshmaelM said:
Perez is around 6'2 or 6'1 but his wingspan seems to be average at best. He is much more skilled than Abueva but doesnthave the length.
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But he is more of a leaper than abueva and can really play pg and not just good in ballhandling.
 
neo said:
If ur best player, best clutch performer, and best scorer from 2013 to present are all below 6'0, why would u not?

Toroman's small ball was worse and baldwin's deferred to his 2-pg lineup both in 2015 fiba asia and 2016 qualifiers. If coaches who are regarded as superior to chot in methods and strategies see some positive in it, why would chot fall out of love from smallball?
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Toroman beat iran during its peak with Gilas 1, and he also beat a Fadi El-khatib-led Lebanon. And Fadi destroyed Chot's Gilas last Fiba asia. With Toroman, you also know that even with his small line up, his tactics are impecable. Toroman knew how to use the post. Toroman had to get midgets because he had no choice. Chot has a wider pool of players and still chose midgets.
 
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