Fiba elgibility- Birth Certificate

[noway2]

Very confusing with new rules. I understand the cheating in Fiba Asia but I have a question.

IF a player is born in a country lets say "japan". And he has a birth certificate and at a young age moved and returned recently to that country 20 years later but never applied for a passport. Since he was born there he doesn't apply to naturlaization rules correct? He does have a birth certificate proving age and his American passport states he was born in "Japan". IS he qualified under new fiba rules to represent that country in fiba sanctioned tournaments. Im sorry I know these rules are all over these message boards but I am new and wanted to clarify!!!!!
Thanks

 

[b3lowzro2]

Japan is a Jus Sanguinis state, you can be a citizen if your lineage is Japanese and if you are born in Japan.

When either parent is a Japanese national at the time of birth
When the father dies before the birth and is a Japanese national at the time of death
When the person is born on Japanese soil and both parents are unknown or stateless

We have a player named Matt Ganuelas Rosser, he's born here in the Philippines and grew up in the states, his dad is American while his mom is Filipino. He's eligible to represent the Philippines in FIBA competition since he is born here; on the other hand, Jordan Clarkson, while being Filipino-American, he is not eligible to play for the Philippines despite his mom being Filipino since he wasn't born in the Philippines or never received a Filipino passport before the age of 16.

Another example would be Joe Alexander, an American citizen hailing from Taiwan and grew up in Communist China. He's not eligible to play in Taiwan since he didn't receive any ROC passport prior to the age of 16 despite being born there.

 

[Cojayar2]

Japan is a Jus Sanguinis state, you can be a citizen if your lineage is Japanese and if you are born in Japan.



We have a player named Matt Ganuelas Rosser, he's born here in the Philippines and grew up in the states, his dad is American while his mom is Filipino. He's eligible to represent the Philippines in FIBA competition since he is born here; on the other hand, Jordan Clarkson, while being Filipino-American, he is not eligible to play for the Philippines despite his mom being Filipino since he wasn't born in the Philippines or never received a Filipino passport before the age of 16.

Another example would be Joe Alexander, an American citizen hailing from Taiwan and grew up in Communist China. He's not eligible to play in Taiwan since he didn't receive any ROC passport prior to the age of 16 despite being born there.

You are not completely right. Every national team can have up to one player who got the nationality after his 16th birthday. So one exception to the rule for each team. That means that this Jordan Clarkson can play for Philippines as long as he is the only one in the team that got nationality after being 16 years old.

This is why Spain can not have both Ibaka and Mirotic at the same time in the same competition. This is why there are many European teams with one "US American" player on their roster and only one player.

But hey, check it directly in the FIBA documents, there are other aspects to consider like if you have played on a senior NT you can not play for another one.

http://www.fiba.com/downloads/v3_expe/agen/docs/3-ELIGIBILITY-NATIONAL-STATUS-of- PLAYERS.pdf

 

[judasmartel2]

But the problem with Clarkson's case is that the Philippines' problem has always been size. If we do acquire the services of Clarkson, who is a natural guard and not a natural center, then we will have to let go of Blatche/Douthit/McGee/whoever and find a natural Philippine-born big man who can dominate Asia and play toe-to-toe against the best in the world.

Well, good luck with that.

Fajardo and Slaughter are right up there, but just not good enough.

BTW, anyone heard about Qatar planning to get 8 Bosnians and 3 Africans and then naturalizing them before their respective 16th birthdays? Not sure if it's true, but if it is, damn. So Qatar can be a powerhouse in Asian basketball in the future just because they can buy that many foreign players?

This is not sour-graping or anything. I DO honestly hope this isn't true.

 

[sinobball2]

I'm not sure who the OP has in mind but South Korea's #8 player Moon was born in Korea as a half-Korean but he's considered naturalized.

 

[Khalid802]

But the problem with Clarkson's case is that the Philippines' problem has always been size. If we do acquire the services of Clarkson, who is a natural guard and not a natural center, then we will have to let go of Blatche/Douthit/McGee/whoever and find a natural Philippine-born big man who can dominate Asia and play toe-to-toe against the best in the world.

Well, good luck with that.

Fajardo and Slaughter are right up there, but just not good enough.

BTW, anyone heard about Qatar planning to get 8 Bosnians and 3 Africans and then naturalizing them before their respective 16th birthdays? Not sure if it's true, but if it is, damn. So Qatar can be a powerhouse in Asian basketball in the future just because they can buy that many foreign players?

This is not sour-graping or anything. I DO honestly hope this isn't true.

Regarding Qatar you can read more about this on this thread:


http://www.interbasket.net/forums/showthread.php?26278-2014-U16-European-Championship/page4