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FIBA ASIA Cup Qualifiers

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ja.he said:
what are your predictions for tomorrow's games? here's mine:

australia - korea by 20
thailand - indonesia by 10
new zealand - taipei by 30
hong kong - philippines by 40
guam - japan by 15
china - mongolia by 35
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​AUS-KOR +16
THA-INA +4
NZL-TPE +30
HKG-PHL -40
GUM-JPN -10
CHN-MGL +10

Plus means for the home team, minus means for the road team.
 
Mine:

AUS-KOR +20
THA-INA +5
NZL-TPE +30
HKG-PHL -30
GUM-JPN -10
CHN-MGL +20
 
Only 2 games tomorrow will be competitive… Indonesia vs Thailand then Guam vs Japan… the rest will be blowouts… but the main game that worth watching will be Indonesia-Thailand match because this is crucial for both teams, especially for Thailand, if they can’t get a win in their home turf vs Indonesia then they will be likely out since I don’t see them beating Indonesia in Jakarta…Thais have better players but Indons already break the barrier for mid tier Asian teams… having experience playing against tougher competition, beating KSA, Kazakhstan, Syria made them have confidence going up against Thais plus they have better system, even Coach Toroman left, his system already planted and it’s growing already… they still running Toroman’s playbook… this is what Indonesia have the advantage over Thailand.. Although both improved since last decade… having breaking the barrier makes Indonesia slightly advantage over Thais… That’s why Thais has to beat Indonesia in Bangkok for getting atleast some upper hand in their rematch in November in Jakarta
 
Meanwhile Japan still getting a win vs Guam but I’m curious Guam how they will play against tougher competition… How will much improve Jericho Cruz bring his championship poise in Guam team… Maybe if he have a good game here vs Japan, For sure Japan B league offers will likely to call for him soon… this is the best ever line up Guam can offer.. the only other game that Guam parade their full strength squad was against New Zealand back in 2020, although they lose by 21 pts… but this is much better because Cruz and even Galloway improve since then….
 
ja.he said:
what are your predictions for tomorrow's games? here's mine:

australia - korea by 20
thailand - indonesia by 10
new zealand - taipei by 30
hong kong - philippines by 40
guam - japan by 15
china - mongolia by 35

australia over korea

australia, obviously, is taller and more physical. in terms skills, the boomers got it. in terms, boomers has it as well.

indonesia over thailand

in terms quality of local talents, thailand and indonesia are almost equal. however, thailand does not have a personnel to match lester prosper.
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new zealand over taipei

this obvious - new zealand is way better than taipei.

philippines over hong kong

like the new zealand-taipei, the philippines is way way stronger than hong kong.

japan over guam

guam has the size and can play physical. the team is also not short of skilled and talented players. however, japan is equal in size, a bit better than guam in terms of skills and, most of all, has a very good system. guam has yet to play a quality ASIAN team. the closest was against Taipei and this team is not even in the top 10 in asia. tomorrow, guam will be up against a top asian team in japan.

china over mongolia

obviously, china is way superior over mongolia.
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I will like to add..

Indonesia have advantage vs Thailand due to good quality system, they continue what Toroman system planted… that is why they already breaking mid tier Asian team barrier for ASEAN teams in basketball, while Thailand didn’t yet, they not yet won against higher rank teams such as Syria, Kazakhstan and KSA, those teams already beat by Indonesia… meanwhile Guam already played New Zealand back in 2020… they have a competitive game there before NZL pull over their strength in the 4th… Guam already played top tier team in NZL as you said that they haven’t yet…

https://youtu.be/SaaBllS1v6g?si=p6oz3eU9C03FK6ru
 
Giannis34GOD said:
Meanwhile Japan still getting a win vs Guam but I’m curious Guam how they will play against tougher competition… How will much improve Jericho Cruz bring his championship poise in Guam team… Maybe if he have a good game here vs Japan, For sure Japan B league offers will likely to call for him soon… this is the best ever line up Guam can offer.. the only other game that Guam parade their full strength squad was against New Zealand back in 2020, although they lose by 21 pts… but this is much better because Cruz and even Galloway improve since then….
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Are Guam citizens covered by the Asian heritage imports in B league? Jericho does not play for the Philippines in Fiba so he cannot use his PH citizenship for B league.
 
Giannis34GOD said:
Oftana will be in the starting unit.. he is the main SF of CTC last Asian Games... Ramos will play SG.... CJ Perez will be off the bench... He's also the 6th man last Asian games run of CTC.... Remember Oftana is the 1st pick of CTC when he was picked as HC of Gilas...
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Let's see if coach Tim will give Dwight Ramos ample playing time at the 2-guard spot.

I'm expecting coach Tim to put Dwight mostly at the 3 spot & Dwight will only play some 2-guard on token minutes.

But we'll see.
 
Rds said:
Are Guam citizens covered by the Asian heritage imports in B league? Jericho does not play for the Philippines in Fiba so he cannot use his PH citizenship for B league.
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But as we know Jericho Cruz is also eligible for Gilas as a local too… so he’s qualified… as long as you are local player by FIBA then he’s still qualified as Asian import there…We know Cruz is playing for Guam, but he has Filipino passport and true blooded Pinoy…
 
It’s crazy that Japan still haven’t beat China since 1936… will Japan end it? Or China will continue their mastery over Japan…
 
Rds said:
Are Guam citizens covered by the Asian heritage imports in B league? Jericho does not play for the Philippines in Fiba so he cannot use his PH citizenship for B league.
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Giannis34GOD said:
But as we know Jericho Cruz is also eligible for Gilas as a local too… so he’s qualified… as long as you are local player by FIBA then he’s still qualified as Asian import there…We know Cruz is playing for Guam, but he has Filipino passport and true blooded Pinoy…
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The B.League requirement is that you have to have actually played for the NT as a local. I don't think Japan has an Asian Quota req for countries other than China, Philippines, or SoKor.​
 
​AUS - KOR by 25
INA -THA by 10
NZL-TPE by 40
PHI - HKG by 40
JPN - GUM by 25
CHN - MGL by 30​
 
Giannis34GOD said:
I will like to add..

Indonesia have advantage vs Thailand due to good quality system, they continue what Toroman system planted… that is why they already breaking mid tier Asian team barrier for ASEAN teams in basketball, while Thailand didn’t yet, they not yet won against higher rank teams such as Syria, Kazakhstan and KSA, those teams already beat by Indonesia… meanwhile Guam already played New Zealand back in 2020… they have a competitive game there before NZL pull over their strength in the 4th… Guam already played top tier team in NZL as you said that they haven’t yet…

https://youtu.be/SaaBllS1v6g?si=p6oz3eU9C03FK6ru
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I said an Asian team, not a team from Oceania. I did not put the word "Asian" in all caps for nothing.
 
ja.he said:
I said an Asian team, not a team from Oceania. I did not put the word "Asian" in all caps for nothing.
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But NZL is part of Asian basketball, right? Because technically they playing in Asia even thou originally from Oceania… And NZL is slightly better than Yuta/Rui less Japan, So basically Guam already know playing teams who are better than them… Guam might be competitive in first 3 quarters before they will run out of gas in the 4th… Let’s see… They have the height advantage, the question is they can take that advantage over Japan?
 
IPC said:
The B.League requirement is that you have to have actually played for the NT as a local. I don't think Japan has an Asian Quota req for countries other than China, Philippines, or SoKor.​
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Jericho Cruz is originally here in the Philippines… he could be playing for Gilas as local if we don’t have other options after him.. technically he can play in B league as Asian import… the league has no rules that disallowing Players who played for other countries outside those countries you mentioned, especially if he’s technically eligible in his original country as a local player… And Cruz is still a Filipino, playing in the PBA as local player and a passport holder too… the only time that he will be disallowed if he change his nationality already…
 
Giannis34GOD said:
But NZL is part of Asian basketball, right? Because technically they playing in Asia even thou originally from Oceania… And NZL is slightly better than Yuta/Rui less Japan, So basically Guam already know playing teams who are better than them… Guam might be competitive in first 3 quarters before they will run out of gas in the 4th… Let’s see… They have the height advantage, the question is they can take that advantage over Japan?
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But I am not talking about a team from Oceania, but from Asia. How is it hard for you to comprehend that?

Sometimes, the urge of someone to engage in a debate will make him more $+*p!d.
 
Giannis34GOD said:
Jericho Cruz is originally here in the Philippines… he could be playing for Gilas as local if we don’t have other options after him.. technically he can play in B league as Asian import… the league has no rules that disallowing Players who played for other countries outside those countries you mentioned, especially if he’s technically eligible in his original country as a local player… And Cruz is still a Filipino, playing in the PBA as local player and a passport holder too… the only time that he will be disallowed if he change his nationality already…
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but B-league is looking on fiba eligibility so cruz is ineligible to play for B-league..
 
Silent Killer said:
but B-league is looking on fiba eligibility so cruz is ineligible to play for B-league..
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Cruz is originally Filipino FIBA local eligible, he’s eligible to play for Philippines as local in FIBA sanctioned tournaments… he was born in Pasig… he just only playing for Guam technically because no other options and besides he’s more Filipino than being a Guamanian…
 
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