FIBA ASIA Cup Qualifiers

[Giannis34GOD2]

Same in Group C.. Japan and China will be easy top 2 teams here… but I will pick China to win vs Japan, because Japan will be missing marquee players due to availability such as watanabe, Tominaga and Hachimura… China sweeps them twice In both asia cup and World Cup qualifiers… they have a size advantage vs Japan and they know how to beat them… while Guam and Mongolia are equally match… Guam only won 1 pt vs Mongolia last pre qualifiers last February and for sure Mongolia will upgrade their line up next time… I see them both split their 2 game series and quotient will be only determining for both of them who will be the 3rd placer…

China 6-0
Japan 4-2
Guam 1-5
Mongolia 1-5

 

[hmbopbaduwap2]

If I remember it right, 2013 FIBA Asia Championship, in Manila.

CT was lead by that player with an emo haircut. It happened when PHL and Taiwan was having a diplomatic row regarding territorial fishing grounds. and our fishermen were being detained in Taiwan, So the game had emotional and nationalistic pride overtones.

It was an incident between the Philippine Coast guard and a Taiwanese fishing vessel which resulted in the killing of 1 Taiwanese crew, the SBP that time decided not to send Gilas, who was the defending champion that time in the Jones Cup for security reasons. Eventually, 8 members of the PCG were convicted by homicide a couple years after the incident

https://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/17/world/asia/philippines-taiwan-dispute/index.html

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

Group D is also easy pick as Jordan and KSA are easy top 2 picks in their group… But for sure full strength Jordan will beat full strength Saudis even KSA already beat Jordan in WC qualifiers 2 years ago, plus having RHJ as their naturalized player will give them huge upgrade in terms of quality NP for them… Saudis will banking on chemistry and Al Suiwalem is already better and better every year entering his prime years as basketball player… meanwhile I don’t have major information about Iraq and Palestine.. although Palestine will not have sani sakakini already and seems they are much weaker entering post sakakini era… But Palestine beat Iraq last year in their pre qualifier game 91-81.. so it seems this will be their inspiration if they match up again… sentimental pick for me is Palestine but I think Iraq will split their series vs Palestine…


Jordan 6-0
KSA 4-2
Iraq 1-5
Palestine 1-5

 

[DAdmiral2]

Actually if Gilas sends its B league players and PBA vs New Zealand in Feb , and NZ sends like a D team previously (players not in NBL) may chance panalo Gilas

 

[paolylo2]

I knew it. There will be qualifying games in November to maximize the FIBA international break. Chances are there will be a clusterfuck with the PBA Commissioners Cup and both colleage leagues on-going.

Don't be surprised if the SBP sends a suicide squad much like how the BAP kept sending the PCCr varsity team before the entire federation imploded. Chances are, they will pool a bunch of volunteers two weeks before the two games. It was much different last time with the pandemic keeping a pool that had Dwight Ramos, Justine Baltazar, both Ravenas, Kobe Paras, and even a few PBA players like Abu Tratter. Realistically, you can form two national teams with just the bench and reserve players of all SMC teams. If all else fails, the SBP will have to get MPBL players.

I honestly don't know much about HK basketball compared to the other pot 3 & 4 East teams, so I really can't tell if an MPBL selection plus a Kouame or Brownlee can beat a HK team with a good naturalized player. Duncan Reid has been there since before 2014 and ought to be classified as a local... but I don't see them beating an ill-prepared Gilas team compared to NZ (even their team D with Taane Samuel made Koume look really bad) and Taipei (always competitive regardless of which league their players come from).

The SBP even with the pro-San Miguel management should consider quitting if they won't even qualify for the FIBA Asia Cup. It's the easiest group for our team to advance compared to the other two groups and there shouldn't be a reason to finish lower than HK.

 

[IPC2]

The same core as our 2023 WC with some tweaks should do. They should name a permanent HC but I won't mind if Jong becomes our interim.

Dwight
AJ
Kai
Brownlee / Ange
Abando

Scottie
Malonzo
Junemar
BRP
Tamayo
Heading
Bolick

Reserve:
Oftana
Navarro
Japeth
Lassiter
RJ Abarrientos
Amos
Quiambao
Arvin Tolentino
Geo Chiu
Tuffin
Dave Ildefonso

No Ravena brothers and Pogoy please!

Dwight - 25 (1998)
AJ - 23 (2000)
Kai - 21 (2002)
Brownlee - 35 (1988)
Ange - 25 going 26 (1997)
Abando - 25 (1998)

Scottie - 30 (1993)
Malonzo - 27 (1996)
June Mar - 33 going 34 (1989)
Parks - 30 (1993)
Tamayo - 22 (2001)
Heading - 27 (1996)
Bolick - 28 (1995)

Oftana - 27 (1996)
Navarro - 26 (1997)
Japeth - 36 (1987)
Marcio - 36 (1987)
Abarrientos - 24 (1999)
Mason - 19 (2004)
Quiambao - 22 (2001)
Arvin - 27 going 28 (1995)
Chiu - 22 (2001)
Tuffin - 26 (1997)
Dave - 23 (2000)

If we add Abueva and Terrence:

Abueva - 35 (1988)
Terrence - 31 (1992)

If we're gonna add those born from 1994 and earlier, we better make sure we add the right ones, and make sure that they're irreplaceable. Otherwise, we're wasting an opportunity to develop a new core for 2027.

 

[C2Hamm2]

I knew it. There will be qualifying games in November to maximize the FIBA international break. Chances are there will be a clusterfuck with the PBA Commissioners Cup and both colleage leagues on-going.

Don't be surprised if the SBP sends a suicide squad much like how the BAP kept sending the PCCr varsity team before the entire federation imploded. Chances are, they will pool a bunch of volunteers two weeks before the two games. It was much different last time with the pandemic keeping a pool that had Dwight Ramos, Justine Baltazar, both Ravenas, Kobe Paras, and even a few PBA players like Abu Tratter. Realistically, you can form two national teams with just the bench and reserve players of all SMC teams. If all else fails, the SBP will have to get MPBL players.

I honestly don't know much about HK basketball compared to the other pot 3 & 4 East teams, so I really can't tell if an MPBL selection plus a Kouame or Brownlee can beat a HK team with a good naturalized player. Duncan Reid has been there since before 2014 and ought to be classified as a local... but I don't see them beating an ill-prepared Gilas team compared to NZ (even their team D with Taane Samuel made Koume look really bad) and Taipei (always competitive regardless of which league their players come from).

The SBP even with the pro-San Miguel management should consider quitting if they won't even qualify for the FIBA Asia Cup. It's the easiest group for our team to advance compared to the other two groups and there shouldn't be a reason to finish lower than HK.

Now that there is a team for the asian games, lets us hold our tongues, for now and pass judgement after the tournament.

However, all queries and concerns should be raised, NOW, exactly on what you just said. What is the plan for the qualifiers? Can we make a pool now? if ctc is just for asian games can we have a pool of coaches or a temp coaches just to oversee drills of potential pool players.

 

[JAMSKIE2]

CT is very beatable as long we send our best with proper preparations. When was the last time they beat us at full strength? If we lose to CT twice, then that's strike no. 1 for the SMC-SBP leadership.

I'll give them 3 strikes till I boycott Gilas games until these wankers fuck off.

NZ? We need to beat these fuckers.

I watched a few games of the Chinese Taipei national team A in the recent Jones Cup, & I think CT is no pushover. The Taiwanese were impressive in the Jones Cup. The team actually is on rebuilding but it got some promising players like 6-foot-2 wingman Mohammed Al Bachir a. k. a. "Abbasi" & 6-foot-3 combo guard Benson Lin. These players are still young & are promising. Then there's the Hinton brothers who are 6-4/6-5 wingman playing in the US. Its naturalized William Artino seem to get along with the team.

Though I'm confident that a Gilas team anchored on Dwight Ramos, AJ Edu, Kai, Brownlee, Junmar, Malonzo, Parks, CJ Perez, Iskati, would be favored against CT, Gilas can't take the Taiwanese lightly.

 

[r1ck2]

It would be interesting who Al Chua will appoint as the head coach of the national team after the Asian games. With the recent screw up regarding the Asian games pool list I doubt they will entrust Choke to map out the FIBA windows, Im betting Chua will directly take charge of the program moving forward.

The SMC has power over the PBA and Marcial is just Chua's lapdog so I dont think they will have difficulty in putting together a team but as usual prep time will still be their main issue.

 

[JAMSKIE2]

Now that there is a team for the asian games, lets us hold our tongues, for now and pass judgement after the tournament.

However, all queries and concerns should be raised, NOW, exactly on what you just said. What is the plan for the qualifiers? Can we make a pool now? if ctc is just for asian games can we have a pool of coaches or a temp coaches just to oversee drills of potential pool players.

With the SMC people now involved with Gilas, I think there would be better plans & some foresight. Becoz if we just leave the planning & anticipation to Al Panlilio & his SBP cohorts, wala talagang mangyayari sa Gilas.

Parang pinaglihi yata ng kanyang nanay si Panlilio sa kapalpakan.

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

I knew it. There will be qualifying games in November to maximize the FIBA international break. Chances are there will be a clusterfuck with the PBA Commissioners Cup and both colleage leagues on-going.

Don't be surprised if the SBP sends a suicide squad much like how the BAP kept sending the PCCr varsity team before the entire federation imploded. Chances are, they will pool a bunch of volunteers two weeks before the two games. It was much different last time with the pandemic keeping a pool that had Dwight Ramos, Justine Baltazar, both Ravenas, Kobe Paras, and even a few PBA players like Abu Tratter. Realistically, you can form two national teams with just the bench and reserve players of all SMC teams. If all else fails, the SBP will have to get MPBL players.

I honestly don't know much about HK basketball compared to the other pot 3 & 4 East teams, so I really can't tell if an MPBL selection plus a Kouame or Brownlee can beat a HK team with a good naturalized player. Duncan Reid has been there since before 2014 and ought to be classified as a local... but I don't see them beating an ill-prepared Gilas team compared to NZ (even their team D with Taane Samuel made Koume look really bad) and Taipei (always competitive regardless of which league their players come from).

The SBP even with the pro-San Miguel management should consider quitting if they won't even qualify for the FIBA Asia Cup. It's the easiest group for our team to advance compared to the other two groups and there shouldn't be a reason to finish lower than HK.

Overseas players are always available… Ramos, Kouame, Edu, Tamayo, Kai, Abando, Belangel are always there… their leagues are in break when fiba window approaching… so no need to worry about what team will be send… and lastly you are not updated… the qualifying window will be held on February 2024, Not this coming November later this year due to Euroleague - FIBA agreement

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

Group E will be Iran’s group… yes, they lose before against Kazakhstan but it will not always happen anytime, and Kazakhstan’s basketball program is on mess, and India is not left behind from them, expect India will go all out this qualifiers… meanwhile Qatar will start their preparations for their WC hosting starting this coming February… maybe they are odd man out here, but for sure they will be ready and prove that they are worthy of WC spot in 2027… they might be the last placer here, but I think we should expect that they will also host 2025 fiba asia cup, just to eased the pressure early on…


Iran 6-0
Kazakhstan 3-3
India 3-3
Qatar 0-6 (but will qualify due to hosting)

 

[sroth38392]

Overseas players are always available… Ramos, Kouame, Edu, Tamayo, Kai, Abando, Belangel are always there… their leagues are in break when fiba window approaching… so no need to worry about what team will be send… and lastly you are not updated… the qualifying window will be held on February 2024, Not this coming November later this year due to Euroleague - FIBA agreement

As far as I can tell, it’s only the SEAG and Asiad where the Overseas Hoopers aren’t available. Not that it matters as the SBP has a fuckton of Fil-ineligibles to choose from in the PBA.

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

Group F will be a two team race between Lebanon and Bahrain.. Lebanon will have an edge vs Bahrain but the latter can upset Lebanon in one of occasions that they will have a good day, remember, Bahrain just beat Lebanon in their tune up game last month… so familiarity between these two is already prove time to time… meanwhile, Syria have some sort of advantage vs UAE for battle to the 3rd seed team in their group, but doubts about Syria’s capability after a disappointing Pre OQT stint last month that saw Syria just only won a game being a host team that they supposed to be the favorites… I still see Syria will win over UAE…

Lebanon 6-0
Bahrain 4-2
Syria 2-4
UAE 0-6

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

As far as I can tell, it’s only the SEAG and Asiad where the Overseas Hoopers aren’t available. Not that it matters as the SBP has a fuckton of Fil-ineligibles to choose from in the PBA.

Next Asian games will be 2026, and I hope that tournament will be held in off season, so that overseas players are available… anyway asian games 2026 will be held in Japan.. that means B league might reserve their schedule after B league season… the event will be capable to adjust the schedule because they are the host.. so it means our B league players might be available too in Asian games in 2026… the only problem will be Next seagames because the event will be schedule in December 2025… so don’t expect overseas players available that time…

 

[ARMIR2]

Next Asian games will be 2026, and I hope that tournament will be held in off season, so that overseas players are available… anyway asian games 2026 will be held in Japan.. that means B league might reserve their schedule after B league season… the event will be capable to adjust the schedule because they are the host.. so it means our B league players might be available too in Asian games in 2026… the only problem will be Next seagames because the event will be schedule in December 2025… so don’t expect overseas players available that time…

Oh that would be nice if the all the overseas guys play.

 

[C2Hamm2]

Overseas players are always available… Ramos, Kouame, Edu, Tamayo, Kai, Abando, Belangel are always there… their leagues are in break when fiba window approaching… so no need to worry about what team will be send… and lastly you are not updated… the qualifying window will be held on February 2024, Not this coming November later this year due to Euroleague - FIBA agreement

We will see. LH loves him some PBA. Outside of kai, aj, and dwight i doubt he will really use nonPBA players as much as possible.

When is the olympic qualifiers?

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

We will see. LH loves him some PBA. Outside of kai, aj, and dwight i doubt he will really use nonPBA players as much as possible.

When is the olympic qualifiers?

The core of Abando, Ramos, AJ and Kai are enough whatever who will be the coach… I think Parks also will show up too once LH will call his name… he trusted LH more than everybody… while Olympic qualifiers will be held July 2-7, no host yet and wait for announcement when will be the draw of OQT…

 

[C2Hamm2]

The core of Abando, Ramos, AJ and Kai are enough whatever who will be the coach… I think Parks also will show up too once LH will call his name… he trusted LH more than everybody… while Olympic qualifiers will be held July 2-7, no host yet and wait for announcement when will be the draw of OQT…

Ok, lets not plan and prepare anymore. We pin everything on 5 players and just add whoever. Coach wont matter as per your post.

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

Ok, lets not plan and prepare anymore. We pin everything on 5 players and just add whoever. Coach wont matter as per your post.

Other countries using that formula… we will still need plan and a good coach should be a must… but atleast Gilas already have that core that can use even thou in different coaches.. Iran used that formula since 2007 until Haddadi’s retirement last month, Argentina using that formula too since 2002.. everyone knows that the core should be start with Ramos, Edu, Abando and Kai… maybe a very good PG and a NP that will fit those 4 main core group… and the rest will be very good role players… we don’t need star studded cast in national team…