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FIBA ASIA Cup Qualifiers

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empyreanmaze said:
With or without Kai Sotto, this team should not have such a steep drop in quality, simple as. This team is the product of a culture, not just Kai Sotto, absolutely nothing you've said supports the narrative that they should be playing to the levels of Taiwan or weaker teams by missing Kai Sotto. We're going in circles here, I'm saying "you're fat and out of shape" and you're saying "it's because they're too fast" and I'm saying "they're too fast because you're out of shape" and you go "no they're simply too fast". You have a fat and out of shape mentality, snap out of it
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The team identity is size, defense, triangle. Kai is the biggest (even literally) reason for the Size identity. Then it's a domino from there, JMF isn't as effective, then the defense along with the offensive triangle suddenly isn't as well-oiled with him missing and then on top of that Edu is reprising Kai's role while being a new guy at the same time.

It's like the Warriors having Shooting as their identity and then losing GOAT shooter Curry.

Taiwan played really well (and is not the same lowly team that people like to portray them). When Japan almost beat (they did) France in the Olympics on their floor, you don't structurally/fundamentally blow up that France team from that dud. You partly chalk that up to a team that shot lights out, and you fix the problems of France from an execution perspective. Good thing France stuck with it all the way to almost beating USA if not for another "lights out" performance by Curry.
 
ja.he said:
Why not call Jared McCain, Ron Harper, Jr. or Dylan Harper? If I were SBP, I will do my best to convince these three to take the naturalized spot of Gilas. You only need passport to take either of the three with McCain and Dylan securing a clearance from USAB.
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The very best bet is harper jr.

McCain? might get thru like ange and brownlee did.. besides harper jr. has RP passport and i remember someone asked and shared that tweet here that he got the RP passport but after 16.

Dylan? good luck..
 
Metta said:
The team identity is size, defense, triangle. Kai is the biggest (even literally) reason for the Size identity. Then it's a domino from there, JMF isn't as effective, then the defense along with the offensive triangle suddenly isn't as well-oiled with him missing and then on top of that Edu (new guy) is reprising his role while being a new guy at the same time.

It's like the Warriors having Shooting as their identity and then losing GOAT shooter Curry.

Taiwan played really well (and is not the same lowly team that people like to portray them). When Japan almost beat (they did) France in the Olympics on their floor, you don't structurally/fundamentally blow up that France team from that lone dud. You partly chalk that up to a team that shot lights out, and you fix the problems of France from an execution perspective. Good thing France stuck with it all the way to almost beating USA if not for another "lights out" performance by Curry.
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I don't understand why they are crucifying Gilas in their loss against Taipei as if Taipei is within Indonesia's level. ​​​The professionalization of basketball in Taipei really plays a huge part on rebuilding their national team.
 
ja.he said:
I don't understand why they are crucifying Gilas in their loss against Taipei as if Taipei is within Indonesia's level. ​​​The professionalization of basketball in Taipei really plays a huge part on rebuilding their national team.
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Coz it fits a narrative. They have a deceivingly low ranking as of now..."your mighty team just lost to number 179"...is a good soundbyte. Without critical thinking and context of Taiwan's quality that last game...Taiwan had a formidable (unscouted) center, basically 2 NPs and the thing that isn't talked about, a potentially elite coach. Their coach had a great game plan (including the cash bonus). They are not ignorant when it comes to basketball, for their population they are doing a great job. And things like having a team B with young guys is an example of their strategic thinking.
 
Metta said:
Coz it fits a narrative. They have a deceivingly low ranking as of now..."your mighty team just lost to number 179"...is a good soundbyte. Without critical thinking and context of Taiwan's quality that last game...Taiwan now has a formidable center, basically 2 NPs and the thing that isn't talked about, a potentially elite coach. Their coach had a great game plan (including the cash bonus). They are not ignorant when it comes to basketball, for their population they are doing a great job. And things like having a team B with young guys is an example of their strategic thinking.
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Gilbeck and Abasi are quality players that were being well-complimented by their locals and the coach. I recommend people to watch TPBL and P+ for people to have an idea about Taiwanese basketball. It's free on YouTube.
 
ja.he said:
Gilbeck and Abasi are quality players that were being well-complimented by their locals and the coach. I recommend people to watch TPBL and P+ for people to have an idea about Taiwanese basketball. It's free on YouTube.
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Yes, I know the Hinton bros, I'm impressed with how Taiwan has been gearing up for the future.

Their leading stakeholders like the owner of Taipei Kings are bringing a lot of innovative ideas especially in terms of the business side. And when a league starts generating money, quality will follow.
 
Yago Santos of Brasil reminds me so much of Prime Jayson.

Miss having that kind of spark in our backcourt. Jayson was a nightmare to the opposition.
 
Metta said:
Yes, I know the Hinton bros, I'm impressed with how Taiwan has been gearing up for the future.

Their leading stakeholders like the owner of Taipei Kings are bringing a lot of innovative ideas especially in terms of the business side. And when a league starts generating money, quality will follow.
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This is where the PBA is having a shortcoming. The league is not innovating and relies heavily on Ginebra to retain its popularity.
 
Metta said:
Coz it fits a narrative. They have a deceivingly low ranking as of now..."your mighty team just lost to number 179"...is a good soundbyte. Without critical thinking and context of Taiwan's quality that last game...Taiwan had a formidable (unscouted) center, basically 2 NPs and the thing that isn't talked about, a potentially elite coach. Their coach had a great game plan (including the cash bonus). They are not ignorant when it comes to basketball, for their population they are doing a great job. And things like having a team B with young guys is an example of their strategic thinking.
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Homer Sayson narrative haha. but Taiwan good this game, fun to watch basketball-wise, also agree their coach is elite.

pressing issue of Gilas for me is the Cone decision of a 6-man rotation, non-trust to Tamayo and KQ, and over-reliance on Brownlee. why is there no development perspective?? if Gilas won, none of these issues are amplified even though they are already glaring.
 
Dr. J such a boomer, tapes really where fb live, youtube clips and stream services are already out
 
ang kalat ni iskati, has not made a proper pass yet and is not a scoring threat
 
ja.he said:
I don't understand why they are crucifying Gilas in their loss against Taipei as if Taipei is within Indonesia's level. ​​​The professionalization of basketball in Taipei really plays a huge part on rebuilding their national team.
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Because everyone is looking forward to our match with NZ already and we are supposed to win over them with or without Kai. We also have one of our better lineup in years and everyone is expecting a lot especially since Cone has his favorite players including some Ginebra players. Also everyone is expected them to have scouted Taiwan. Everyone knew they've improved but nobody expected our side to regress this much. I mean based on our previous games not including those awful non bearing Doha games everyone felt that we've made major leaps. Sure we didn't win every game but the team was competing until the last minute. This team just feels different
 
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