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FIBA ASIA Cup Qualifiers

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I think if we won last night's game (it would still be a close one), people would still point out some shortcomings/flaws of our team & would still take notice of Taiwan's significant improvement.

But definitely, that would still make us feel much much better. A win is a win eh!
 
I am also curious to this. It seems to me this is a weakness of the triangle. Your bigs cant help screen in the back court because they are in post position on the other side. Your 3 can help but we dont want JB to do that. Which potential SF can help up us bring the ball?

First of all, the team needs to practice playing against ball pressure much more. No NBA team presses because teams can easily break it. Having a big target like JB as a release valve who can handle the ball should allow us to break any pressure. The past couple of games really exhibited a lot of turnovers and a lot were mental lapses more than skill issue. For some reason the team doesn't look locked in mentally. They seem to focus only at the end game.

But, if we're going to add another ball-handler, I'm leaning towards a guy like Winston. Can potentially be a good defender and has a middy game on top of ballhandling.
 
First of all, the team needs to practice playing against ball pressure much more. No NBA team presses because teams can easily break it. Having a big target like JB as a release valve who can handle the ball should allow us to break any pressure. The past couple of games really exhibited a lot of turnovers and a lot were mental lapses more than skill issue. For some reason the team doesn't look locked in mentally. They seem to focus only at the end game.

But, if we're going to add another ball-handler, I'm leaning towards a guy like Winston. Can potentially be a good defender and has a middy game on top of ballhandling.

Were relying too much on JB. He already scored almost half our points total and to be honest that probably is one of better shooting games. It's the supporting cast thats a bit of a letdown. Not locked on defense. Crumbles under pressure. We've been sucking for a while now.
 
Moving away from the triangle can help with this. Bring in guys like Edu or Carl to either screen or be an outlet for our guards.

Coaching staff already adjusted mid-4th quarter when they ran Spain PNR, and got back the lead (this still becomes a Brownlee takeover/bailout outcome though) but we had TOs (Newsome offensive foul on the pick, and Brownlee fastbreak bad pass) that led to the loss.

i agree, they can switch it up by playing other offensive sets before going back to triangle to confuse opponents maybe early in the game in the 1st half. there should be adjustments for the next game because roster changes can only happen in the next tournament (Asia Cup). otherwise, expect a blowout in New Zealand.
 
Coaching staff already adjusted mid-4th quarter when they ran Spain PNR, and got back the lead (this still becomes a Brownlee takeover/bailout outcome though) but we had TOs (Newsome offensive foul on the pick, and Brownlee fastbreak bad pass) that led to the loss.

i agree, they can switch it up by playing other offensive sets before going back to triangle to confuse opponents maybe early in the game in the 1st half. there should be adjustments for the next game because roster changes can only happen in the next tournament (Asia Cup). otherwise, expect a blowout in New Zealand.

Actually they can change players per game in this window but only allows who are on the pool only
 
Lies.. you don’t suggest this.. when i name drop him, you don’t agree with it..




Did you have any reading comprehension? Bolick is a good option but no comparison to Alapag or Castro level.. Akala ko Marami ka alam? Hay naku... Di porket I said he's not on level between Castro and Alapag and that means I didn't trust him.. then go to the far previous post, where I mentioned him, alongside Abando and Baltazar as those players who should be in the extension pool.. do you remember you have argument against me that I doubt about Heading? That's because I want Bolick over Heading in the pool...
 
it seems odd to all of you

but I'm super duper happy with the lost last night and the possible result on the 23rd.

exposure like that is very very necessary moving forward.

the coaching staff already knows the flaws and weaknesses of the team.

CTC is well known for his adjustment and they should correct those things come FIBA Asia Cup

they must figure it out what went wrong on the next training camp...otherwise..oh well..

I totally agree that some of the personnel are not the next level up guys

but CTC already mentioned many times that he's done teaching that is why he preferred a small pool

either we as a fan agree or disagree on his line of reasoning we can only comment...that's our restriction our boundary.

both SMB and MVP camp unanimously voted for his inclusion as the national coach, that's their call.

anyway I already mentioned this before, the possibility that they would add a few warm bodies in the training camp

is the obvious thing, the so-called "Fast-track storyline" nowadays.​
 
Did you have any reading comprehension? Bolick is a good option but no comparison to Alapag or Castro level.. Akala ko Marami ka alam? Hay naku... Di porket I said he's not on level between Castro and Alapag and that means I didn't trust him.. then go to the far previous post, where I mentioned him, alongside Abando and Baltazar as those players who should be in the extension pool.. do you remember you have argument against me that I doubt about Heading? That's because I want Bolick over Heading in the pool...

You are moving the goal post robert..
 
Did you have any reading comprehension? Bolick is a good option but no comparison to Alapag or Castro level.. Akala ko Marami ka alam? Hay naku... Di porket I said he's not on level between Castro and Alapag and that means I didn't trust him.. then go to the far previous post, where I mentioned him, alongside Abando and Baltazar as those players who should be in the extension pool.. do you remember you have argument against me that I doubt about Heading? That's because I want Bolick over Heading in the pool...

Robert belittling someone's reading comprehension! Oh God, this is hilarious. The audacity. Lmao!
 
Guys, do U think if it was Jordan who faced Taiwan last night, Taiwan would still have won? With the way Taiwan shot last night, I think any Asian team will have difficulty defending.
 
Guys, do U think if it was Jordan who faced Taiwan last night, Taiwan would still have won? With the way Taiwan shot last night, I think any Asian team will have difficulty defending.

I didn't see much of the game. But from what I have heard many of the looks were from just single screens. Wouldn't switching at times break their rhythm? Secondly, basketball is a game of runs and rhythms. I suppose starting JMF there and playing him major minutes gave Taiwan a lot of open looks that could've started their momentum. With the rhythm and confidence they got they were probably able to take and make more well defended shots.
 
Guys, do U think if it was Jordan who faced Taiwan last night, Taiwan would still have won? With the way Taiwan shot last night, I think any Asian team will have difficulty defending.

Ironically enough, Gilas had the better shooting percentage from 3 at 47.6% compared to their 34.9% but they took way more attempts since their offense was geared more towards shooting 3s. It really came down to defense which was a problem even in the previous window when New Zealand shot 51% from 3.
 
Ironically enough, Gilas had the better shooting percentage from 3 at 47.6% compared to their 34.9% but they took way more attempts since their offense was geared more towards shooting 3s. It really came down to defense which was a problem even in the previous window when New Zealand shot 51% from 3.

This is misleading. Almost all of the makes were from JB. Dwight made only 2/8. The others none I think. If our other players don't have the confidence in taking 3s or are not sufficiently open that's another problem. Relying our outside shooting almost primarily on Brownlee is a mistake I think. Secondly, letting Dwight take 8 shots for only 25% accuracy is not good offense IMO. Surely we have better shooters? We know Dwight for all his talents is not the most accurate 3 pt shooter. He is best off doing the kick-outs and should only shoot as a secondary option.
 
This is misleading. Almost all of the makes were from JB. Dwight made only 2/8. The others none I think. If our other players don't have the confidence in taking 3s or are not sufficiently open that's another problem. Relying our outside shooting almost primarily on Brownlee is a mistake I think. Secondly, letting Dwight take 8 shots for only 25% accuracy is not good offense IMO. Surely we have better shooters? We know Dwight for all his talents is not the most accurate 3 pt shooter. He is best off doing the kick-outs and should only shoot as a secondary option.

Dwight is a scorer and not a pure shooter. Dwight is like Rukawa - scorer but not shooter. What Gilas needs are their Mitsuis and Jins which could have been Heading and Parks.

Also, Gilas lacks their own Sakuragi - someone that lift up the spirits of the team by doing the dirty work. We used to have a guy named Pingris to do this part. This could have been Motor Mike's role.
 
This is misleading. Almost all of the makes were from JB. Dwight made only 2/8. The others none I think. If our other players don't have the confidence in taking 3s or are not sufficiently open that's another problem. Relying our outside shooting almost primarily on Brownlee is a mistake I think. Secondly, letting Dwight take 8 shots for only 25% accuracy is not good offense IMO. Surely we have better shooters? We know Dwight for all his talents is not the most accurate 3 pt shooter. He is best off doing the kick-outs and should only shoot as a secondary option.

Yeah, problem is, there aren’t any reliable shot creators on the team. It wasn’t as big of an issue because Kai was essentially another import caliber player that could take the load off Brownlee and his style of play fit the system. Now we see the holes in the team when it comes to skillsets.
 
This is misleading. Almost all of the makes were from JB. Dwight made only 2/8. The others none I think. If our other players don't have the confidence in taking 3s or are not sufficiently open that's another problem. Relying our outside shooting almost primarily on Brownlee is a mistake I think. Secondly, letting Dwight take 8 shots for only 25% accuracy is not good offense IMO. Surely we have better shooters? We know Dwight for all his talents is not the most accurate 3 pt shooter. He is best off doing the kick-outs and should only shoot as a secondary option.

This is when we would need a Jordan Heading.

As we can see, Oftana shoots very well with TnT in the PBA, but he can't carryover such shooting in the FIBA game. If only Oftana can somehow shoot decently in the FIBA game, then we may not see the need for another honest-to-goodness 3-pt shooter in the team. As some posters here would say, not becoz a player plays well in the PBA it's already certain that he can carryover that performance in the FIBA game. But with Jordan Heading, we have already seen how he played in the FIBA game & international competitions in 2021 with Gilas under coach Tab Baldwin. Kumbaga, Heading is already a proven serviceable player for the national team.

If we look at the guards of Gilas, you got an Iskati Thompson, Chris Newsome, CJ Perez & Dwight Ramos, among them, only Ramos can be considered to have a decent 3-pt. shooting. Iskati, Newsome & Perez can hit 3's but they are far from having consistent 3-pt shooting.
 
Walang hiya! If we look at Chinese Taipei, looks like everyone of them except their naturalized player can shoot 3's. Whenever a Chinese Taipei player takes a 3-pt shot, parang papasok eh.
 
Walang hiya! If we look at Chinese Taipei, looks like everyone of them except their naturalized player can shoot 3's. Whenever a Chinese Taipei player takes a 3-pt shot, parang papasok eh.

That's their focus I guess. Just like Korea before. Even actually NZ. Teams that feel they have less size to compete focus on outside shooting. I guess we misled ourselves into thinking that we had enough size with Kai. It turns out without him our other bigs are not enough to compensate. Again without Kai it seems our bigs are not good enough to generate us good looks in the triangle. JB scored but if the others didn't get good enough looks it's not enough. If the Spain PNR allowed us to comeback then that might something to look at. It seems it suits Edu more than the triangle. Actually we might really need to do without the triangle because JMF, the guy that makes it run for us now, seems to be more of a negative when played major minutes. In short minutes I've seen Carl make good passes. But I don't think that is sustainable in the triangle as well.
 
Yeah, problem is, there aren’t any reliable shot creators on the team. It wasn’t as big of an issue because Kai was essentially another import caliber player that could take the load off Brownlee and his style of play fit the system. Now we see the holes in the team when it comes to skillsets.

Saw Thompson only shot 13% last night. We need him to at least be a threat to score.
 
It our turnovers that is the big issue for me. From averaging 9 TOs a game to 17 yesterday. If we maintain our averages, we will have a better outing against new zealand
 
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