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CoJ2
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Reminiscent of the old chot reyes teams, we tend to play at the level of our competition…
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Reminiscent of the old chot reyes teams, we tend to play at the level of our competition…
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reamily2
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The grandslam san mig coffeee team.had bench sparks its just that in Ginebra he tends to over burn the players..we really need to hold the fort since kai is out for a while..the other ibners like sk had valid point on scorers in guard positions since benson lin, boy 69, long hair mark wiens, and abassi are undersized players that we could have be patiend and do ddo situations on them
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paolylo2
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Yeah that's the job of the Gilas coaching staff. Even UAAP teams got scouting reports on player tendencies they've only seen in pre-season or even video of high school games. This narrative that FIBA teams "na may tinatagong players" is taken right out of Andy Jao's butthole.
It's 2025 and no one's convincing me that all 25 of TPE's pro players in the windows can't be seen on a YouTube clip somewhere. In fact, I'd go as far as believing TPE gave up that game last year in the Ultra away knowing game 1 was gonna be a war at home against NZ and whoever was left standing were supplements to their Team B for Gilas to crush.
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TheRodster212
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This Gilas iteration seems to struggle with quicker teams. They struggled as well in the pocket tournament against speed and pesky defense.
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TheRodster212
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Also hate to say it but I think the New Zealand game is going to be ugly. Last time they shot over 50% from 3, saving grace was a strong inside presence, which is missing now. Don’t expect them to shoot over 50% again but they are going to be quick and shoot a lot
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sajubeads2
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well Skati and Newnew are not really speedsters...This Gilas iteration lack that quick change of pace scoring point guard like the Alapags, Castrosa and Calmas. It seems that Tim gets so fascinated of Upsizing our Pg for Upsizing sake. New and Skati are nor natural Pgs, pinilit sa hinog lang. I believe we need RJ as that 3rd PG , he is decent size na for Asian level. Japans PG are just 5-6 in Togashi and 5-8 Kawamura who is in the Nba now.
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Giannis34GOD2
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Now you changed your tune. You're against on bolick idea
How? Backread my post way way back last year, I actually want Bolick, alongside Baltazar and Abando as extensions of Gilas pool.. He's also my pick over Heading, because Bolick is masterize already to play guard position while heading just learning to play PG at Converge... You can check all of my post and Bolick is one of my top list...
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ARMIR2
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The most stubborn coach would not move come hell or high water.
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JAMSKIE2
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But if we are to believe some of our fellow Pinoy posters here, modern basketball, especially triangle offense, does not need natural or traditional point guard for as long as the team has some playmakers playing in other positions.
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JAMSKIE2
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I think Oftana isn't really built for the FIBA game. In the PBA, he's really one of the deadliest 3-pt shooter & if he is in his rhythm, he can hit as many as 5 to 6 triples in a game. But in the FIBA game parang you are watching at a different Oftana in Gilas jersey. It's like a water-down version of Oftana you're watching in Gilas uniform. He reminds me of Matthew Wright in Gilas uniform.
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CoJ2
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Level of competition is another issue, Oftana is basically top tier in the PBA in terms of skill and height for his position, not to mention PBA don’t really guard the perimeter that well
meanwhile in FIBA ball he has to deal with bigger, more skilled and athletic counterparts
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ja.he2
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To me, this loss against Taipei is not of the same magnitude when we were beaten by Indonesia.
Maybe because I know that Taipei is a level better locals than Indonesia. Another is that Taipei wants to comeback its respectability in Asian basketball. That's the reason why I am not really that mad with the yesterday's results. Taipei just showed its hunger to win meaningful games.
On the side of Gilas, I will still give Tim Cone a try. For one, Gilas has already qualified for the FIBA-Asia Cup. Most likely, this window will be a good test about the level of Gilas with Kai sitting. Another is the reintegration of AJ to the team. Last is the adjustments that need to be adjusted based on this window which should include the addition of personnel.
Overall, I am just happy that Taipei is now getting better after years of conundrum due to the departures of Tseng Wenting, Tien Lei, Wu Taihao and Lin Chihchieh.
Maybe because I know that Taipei is a level better locals than Indonesia. Another is that Taipei wants to comeback its respectability in Asian basketball. That's the reason why I am not really that mad with the yesterday's results. Taipei just showed its hunger to win meaningful games.
On the side of Gilas, I will still give Tim Cone a try. For one, Gilas has already qualified for the FIBA-Asia Cup. Most likely, this window will be a good test about the level of Gilas with Kai sitting. Another is the reintegration of AJ to the team. Last is the adjustments that need to be adjusted based on this window which should include the addition of personnel.
Overall, I am just happy that Taipei is now getting better after years of conundrum due to the departures of Tseng Wenting, Tien Lei, Wu Taihao and Lin Chihchieh.
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noyce2
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this team iteration is already scouted, aggressive ball pressure stifled going into the flow of triangle offense such that perez, thomposon, newsome even dwight coughs up the ball.
expecting RJ Abarrientos to be added or a better defense/offense guard (Heading but maybe wont happen) who can withstand ball pressure. remove CJ perez already
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reamily2
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What are the weight of of qualification to continental tournaments, almost a non bearing battle to the ones already qualified.
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Metta2
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Yes, very poor performance and a good chance to consider things.
We should give props to Taiwan though, they won the game doing their thing and it wasn't all about us playing poorly. Anytime a team can shoot like that, anything is possible. It's like how Japan almost beat France. That cash bonus was also a genius move that pumped the players up. Long hair skinny guy skying for that rebound over Brownlee perfectly illustrated the disparity in who wants it more.
The way it transpired, we didn't even do anything towards the side quest objectives like giving young guys ample experience (except for Edu). The team didn't really learn anything new. Meanwhile, Japan could care less with winning this games. The constant pressure to win each and every game is really detrimental.
The supposed Team Identity is defense and size and that 5-out lights-out shooting of Taiwan did a good job of taking both of it away.
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Silent Killer2
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Lies.. you don’t suggest this.. when i name drop him, you don’t agree with it..
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JAMSKIE2
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But you have to take into consideration that the Gilas team that was beaten by Indonesia in 2022 was far from a full force Gilas team. It lacked a good number of elite or key Gilas players. On the other hand, the Gilas team that bowed to Taiwan last night is a full force Gilas team minus only 1 key player in Kai Sotto.
Then after this current Gilas team beat world No. 6 Latvia in last year's Olympic Qualifying Tournament & those close loses to Georgia, & Brazil (minus Kai Sotto) & our victory over New Zealand in the 2nd window, we can't deny the fact that expectations of fans (including us IBNers) from our team had been high. Honestly, I wasn't that frustrated about our loss to Indonesia in 2022 as I am after that Gilas loss to Taiwan last night. Yes I acknowledge that Taiwan has really improved significantly in recent years, but let's be honest, most of us here (if not all) strongly believe that current Gilas team (even w/o a Kai Sotto) is above the level current Taiwan team.
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lem0nadi2
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It's crazy that a year ago, the fans were literally cheering for the long-haired guy to score—either for fun or to mock him—when they were down by 50+ points. No one would have thought that a year later, he would get his revenge. I still can't believe how massive the downfall was after losing Kai. Honestly, I thought this window would be for the KBL boys, but CTC didn’t even give them a chance.
What makes this loss even more painful is that the Taipei team was missing two key players, the Hinton brothers. Robert Hinton, who is currently doing good in the Ivy League, is easily their best player, while Adam is a starter-caliber player for them. It makes me think that even if we had Kai, the result would have been the same if they had those two. Our gap with them is getting narrower without us even realizing it.
What makes this loss even more painful is that the Taipei team was missing two key players, the Hinton brothers. Robert Hinton, who is currently doing good in the Ivy League, is easily their best player, while Adam is a starter-caliber player for them. It makes me think that even if we had Kai, the result would have been the same if they had those two. Our gap with them is getting narrower without us even realizing it.
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Metta2
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Imo, the offense was not the reason we lost. We came back and even got the lead back in the crucial moments, we scored enough. (and the triangle is an old offense, Taiwan is the one that used a new 5-out offense). Old vs new.
The problem is more on the defensive end. We had no answer for their shooters and they kept hitting it until the end.
Let's say we had trad PGs...he has to be a plus defender Trad PG who can cover a lot of ground and be versatile (big) enough to constantly switch. If not, it will open up another whole can of worms where we can't play ultra big (and that includes Kai).
If there's a trad pg that could've covered those Taiwanese shooters last night and at the same time have the ability to cover for our slow bigs, then yes by all means he should be considered.
Guys are so fixated on the offensive side, analyze the defensive side. Whatever improvements we do should also impact that side.
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Metta2
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Definitely, pretty soon this Taiwan team will be dangerous. They're not the same team from the past decade.
And this is by design. Pay attention to how they created a team B to enable the young guys to have a lot of experience. They have a strategic mindset and also gearing up for a potential golden generation of their own.
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