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FIBA-Asia Cup 2025 Saudi Arabia

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Silent Killer said:
The more cone should trust other players to do scoring.. we have players that can score..
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The sooner tim starts giving tamayo and kq iffensive touches the better for the team long term.. it isnt like gibebra where you have an inconsistent malonzo he has a sotto a brownlee kq, karl a slaher in new some offensive big in fajardo.. and a another guard shooter thats a complete deep team
 
The kbl was a blessing in disguise we dont need kq and tamayo go to elite pba teams to be third options.. they go to kbl ( as wqual to pba teams) and become their top 3 players..
 
Silent Killer said:
The more cone should trust other players to do scoring.. we have players that can score..
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Yes, but under coach Tim these players looked unserviceable. In the 3rd window & as well as that pocket tournament in Doha, Qatar, our team looked like having a shallow bench with nobody but only around 7 players who can contribute to the team. I believe current Gilas has better firepower from the bench than what it showed in the 3rd window & in Doha, Qatar.
 
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[TD="class: xl69"]2.08[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]To slow in defense and offensively, needs to be set up to be effective[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl69"]2.06[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl65"]Aguilar[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]2.05[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]Too old[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl65"]Tamayo[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]2.01[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]Too slow as a 3, too weak as a 4[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl69"]1.98[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]our Lebron/MJ[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl65"]Malonzo[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]1.96[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]No decent handles to be a dependable 3, to small as a 4[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl65"]Oftana[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]1.94[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]Can only use left hand to dribble and inconsistent shooter[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl65"]KQ[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]1.93[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]Passable handles but not enough foot speed to be a dependable 3, too small as a 4[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl65"]Ramos [/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]1.93[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]Most consistent contributor outside our main option (JB)[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl65"]Perez[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]1.86[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]Too inconsistent [/TD]
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[TD="class: xl65"]Newsome[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]1.86[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]Should start as PG [/TD]
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[TD="class: xl65"]Thompson[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]1.82[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]Should not be our starting PG but since CTC is…[/TD]
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carmelo7 said:
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[TD="class: xl65"]Fajardo[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]2.08[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl65"]Edu[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]2.06[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl65"]Aguilar[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl66"]2.01[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl65"]Brownlee[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]1.98[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]our Lebron/MJ[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl65"]Malonzo[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]1.96[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]No decent handles to be a dependable 3, to small as a 4[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl65"]Oftana[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69"]1.94[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]Can only use left hand to dribble and inconsistent shooter[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl65"]KQ[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]1.93[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]Passable handles but not enough foot speed to be a dependable 3, too small as a 4[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl65"]Ramos [/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]1.93[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl66"]1.86[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl65"]Thompson[/TD]
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Where is this from?
 
TheRodster21 said:
Where is this from?
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He lost me at....Edu - too soft

Such short memory of how Edu played at the World Cup (even defended KAT well one-one-one) and not remembering that he was supposed to be eased into the last tournament after a long injury.
 
Metta said:
He lost me at....Edu - too soft

Such short memory of how Edu played at the World Cup (even defended KAT well one-one-one) and not remembering that he was supposed to be eased into the last tournament after a long injury.
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He did great in WC. But let’s face it KAT is more a perimeter big. We know Edu is injury prone so it is understandable that he might be a bit soft defending the post and scoring in the paint. In limited sample size even the less than 100% Kouame looks stronger defending and scoring in the paint.
 
On Kouame. He looks more awkard than in his pre-injury days. I think he had a partially torn ACL. But instead of the old advice of having it fully cut and reconstructed it seems he didnt have a surgery. The old treatment was reconstruction of even partially torn ACL. I think Kouame is forever favoring his partially torn knee hence the awkardness and lack of force in jumping. Pingris had a reconstructed ACL but he still maintained his defense. I am not a doctor but I speculate like Pingris, Kouame will be stronger if he had his ACL reconstructed.
 
Thats too much expectation we want aj edu to be healthy and productive and not dominating brandon gilbeck..in a game that doesnt matter much as we were qualified already..there are other guys we can use to make gilbeck a shot blocking happy player to get into foul trouble and be prone to drop passes..
 
Rds said:
He did great in WC. But let’s face it KAT is more a perimeter big. We know Edu is injury prone so it is understandable that he might be a bit soft defending the post and scoring in the paint. In limited sample size even the less than 100% Kouame looks stronger defending and scoring in the paint.
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He also did a good job against the other teams not just KAT. He does seem to be fragile, but fragile doesn't mean soft. Kawhi is also fragile but not soft.

I'm waiting for Edu to be fully healed before labelling him. I'll try to watch him in Bleague.
 
Edu's good, really good. I don’t even know where that “too soft” comment came from.

He's literally our best local defender. I don’t think he should be called soft just because he’s injury-prone.

If we’re being literal, a glass is far more durable and incomparable despite being prone to breaking, compared to something truly soft like cotton.

He was averaging 13.1 points and 8.8 rebounds over 14 games on his pro rookie year in Toyama, which is a solid sample size to assess a player. Even the PBA only has 11 games per team in a regular season conference. He played 29 minutes per game before his injury, those stats are almost identical to Kai’s best season so far in his pro career this season.

Right now, Edu is averaging 5 points and 5 rebounds, but he’s still getting 22 minutes per game. You don’t get that kind of playing time out of 40 minutes just for putting up 5 and 5. He’s their regular import defender and team stopper.

In an alternate universe where injuries don’t exist, he’s probably playing in the NBA as a role-playing big man and defensive specialist. His rookie year in Toledo showed a lot of promise, and he was on an upward trajectory in his sophomore year until multiple major injuries struck.
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lem0nadi said:
Edu's good, really good. I don’t even know where that “too soft” comment came from.

He's literally our best local defender. I don’t think he should be called soft just because he’s injury-prone.

If we’re being literal, a glass is far more durable and incomparable despite being prone to breaking, compared to something truly soft like cotton.

He was averaging 13.1 points and 8.8 rebounds over 14 games on his pro rookie year in Toyama, which is a solid sample size to assess a player. Even the PBA only has 11 games per team in a regular season conference. He played 29 minutes per game before his injury, those stats are almost identical to Kai’s best season so far in his pro career this season.

Right now, Edu is averaging 5 points and 5 rebounds, but he’s still getting 22 minutes per game. You don’t get that kind of playing time out of 40 minutes just for putting up 5 and 5. He’s their regular import defender and team stopper.

In an alternate universe where injuries don’t exist, he’s probably playing in the NBA as a role-playing big man and defensive specialist. His rookie year in Toledo showed a lot of promise, and he was on an upward trajectory in his sophomore year until multiple major injuries struck.
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I think he was misplayed as a center in Toledo. He also went hard for blocks all the time. With his frame it was clear he was built to be a finesse forward but he was used as a power playing center. Before that he played for Batang Gilas and was its best player. Even better than Kai. But he got injured. Even affer his rookie year in B league he got injured I think. His minutes restriction is probably to avoid injuries coz he played 40 minutes as a rookie when he got injured.
 
CoJ said:
Brownlee cleared to play

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba/justin-brownlee-cleared-to-play-for-gilas-no-fiba-suspension-a793-20250509?utm_source=Facebook-Spin&utm_medium=Ownshare&utm_campaign=20250509-fbnp-basketball-justin-brownlee-cleared-to-play-for-gilas-no-fiba-suspension-a793-20250509-fbfirst&fbclid=IwY2xjawKKih5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkE TFmU0xOaWxTZW1uMlZDZmVpAR5wMHA0qmh3ztK0bwNCuP74ENw Ojs1GYsQHL06a5W0MyBNiYG0uQCiJDlnJ9A_aem_2rg0J0FkVR oyvDlizu7dcg
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This is what a blogger featured in his YT blog a few days ago in which I posted here a few days ago. The blogger said that someone from SBP told him that if there is really a suspension or if there would ever be a suspension impose against Brownlee, then that suspension would have been implemented by FIBA long time ago. I think it's been more than a month now that since that report came out that Brownlee once again was tested positive for prohibited substance. The blogger pointed out that when Brownlee was tested positive for prohibited substance during his stint with Gilas in the 2023 Asian Games, FIBA imposed the 3-month suspension right away.

Well, I just hope that there won't be any suspension against Brownlee. Gilas really needs JB in the Asia Cup.
 
sroth3839 said:
This also means he's our naturalized player for the November FIBA WCQ window.

As per Erika Dy, Bennie's naturalization process will only resume after the 2025 SONA.

https://x.com/tiebreakertimes/status/1920738089401524733
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Sir sroth,

we do hope both BB and Favour's paper will be completed before the start of SEAG THAI

the latest update on Favour was she is in the final phase of her full recovery but for the coming FIBA Asia Cup for Women

VDJ will be our NP.

as for next years's AG in Aichi we do hope we could parade both VDJ and Favour in our lineup.

same with BB, him and AK34 are good enough for the coming SEAG alongside with those ineligible like Sedrick and Stephen

and by 2026 AG we do hope OCA would allow Boatwright to be included in the lineup as well.
 
BJ_Reloaded said:
Sir sroth,

we do hope both BB and Favour's paper will be completed before the start of SEAG THAI

the latest update on Favour was she is in the final phase of her full recovery but for the coming FIBA Asia Cup for Women

VDJ will be our NP.

as for next years's AG in Aichi we do hope we could parade both VDJ and Favour in our lineup.

same with BB, him and AK34 are good enough for the coming SEAG alongside with those ineligible like Sedrick and Stephen

and by 2026 AG we do hope OCA would allow Boatwright to be included in the lineup as well.
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Erik Dy, in the same interview, mentioned SEAG 2025 will use FIBA rules. No surprise considering Cambodia abused the OCA rules in 2023.

It's one of those rare times I actually agreed with the Hagop rule.
 
Dotch said:
Carl Tamayo with another solid game, scoring 18 points to lead LG over SK , they now have a commanding 3-0 lead in the Best of 7 KBL Championship Series.
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Silent Killer said:
he should be the finals MVP..

it will be suck if cone will give him less minutes in asia cup
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JAMSKIE said:
Becoz Cone have to give his player Jamie Malonzo the playing time that is supposed to be for Tamayo kasi nga Malonzo knows Cone's system better than Tamayo.
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Rds said:
Malonzo is not even back to his previous level. He's a better shooter now but you can see when he attacks the paint he's not as confident. Cone and Al Chua's excuses for having a fixed lineup is beginning to bite them.
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Carl can help in scoring if given time and opportunities. We really need additional scoring so we don't use JB (or any NP for that matter) as a crutch. If there are concerns about his defense, June Mar's in the rotation, and he's a defensive liability in FIBA.

As for Malonzo, he has to defend at a good enough level in FIBA. Dwight's a good defender, and Oftana's a good enough defender. If Malonzo can't defend well enough, at least he has to shoot well enough. Better if he can both defend and shoot at a good enough level in FIBA.
 
So banchero and Hodge are now local Fiba eligible after they finished more than 10 years of residency in the Philippines.. out of two, Hodge should be in consideration for a spot in Gilas.. we are salivating Mike Philips as local but he has to stay here for atleast 10 years to be local in Fiba.. So for short team (atleast 3-5 years) Hodge could be consider for Gilas under tim cone.. we badly need rebounding, hustle and energy that the current roster lacks.. every team needs like Hodge in the team... And Gilas is also in same trajectory for it...
 
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