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saras2
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hopefully he declines
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paspalj2
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hopefully he declines
How can you still be hating our most consistent player? Doesn’t that contradict the fact that you believe that Ataman knows best?
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saras2
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How can you still be hating our most consistent player? Doesn’t that contradict the fact that you believe that Ataman knows best?
our most consistent player is by far lessort and after him grant. the cyclist still remains just a very good shooter that depends on the team creating his shots and has improved his non existent defence. dorsey offers exactly the same things, plus his greek passport that allows us to get one more foreigner. with trashonis in the roster we have to make a roster with 8 foreigners, which means one of them will be out of the roster in greece and one more will have to be cut in every game.
If you are one of those saying that dont care about greek league, then switch teams and support those who raise banners for finishing 2nd. PANATHINAIKOS has become the giant it is, the best team in europe in the half century, because of the titles and greek league is one of the major ones. so we have to make the strongest available roster for greek league plus 7 top tier foreigners and trashonis is definetely not of them
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paspalj2
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our most consistent player is by far lessort and after him grant. the cyclist still remains just a very good shooter that depends on the team creating his shots and has improved his non existent defence. dorsey offers exactly the same things, plus his greek passport that allows us to get one more foreigner. with trashonis in the roster we have to make a roster with 8 foreigners, which means one of them will be out of the roster in greece and one more will have to be cut in every game.
If you are one of those saying that dont care about greek league, then switch teams and support those who raise banners for finishing 2nd. PANATHINAIKOS has become the giant it is, the best team in europe in the half century, because of the titles and greek league is one of the major ones. so we have to make the strongest available roster for greek league plus 7 top tier foreigners and trashonis is definetely not of them
Brother, you’re tilting at windmills with your second paragraph, I don’t know what to tell you.
You didn’t answer my question though. Since you’ve been adamant that Ataman is the best coach in Europe, shouldn’t you trust him to know better what to do to align the team roster with the goals they’ve set for themselves?
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saras2
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Brother, you’re tilting at windmills with your second paragraph, I don’t know what to tell you.
You didn’t answer my question though. Since you’ve been adamant that Ataman is the best coach in Europe, shouldn’t you trust him to know better what to do to align the team roster with the goals they’ve set for themselves?
Im not the one saying ataman is the best coach in euroleague. His results say so. He is by far the best coach of this decade in euroleague.
Ataman can say what he wants. Trashonis is not even one of the top5 guys in our roster and leaving doesnt mean that the team will lose anything. Actually it will be an opportunity to stengthen the roster and get someone better, like dorsey. Trashonis is 30 years old and still hasnt played in a f4. A player that has played for minor teams and after going to the next level he disappeared in csska and PANATHINAIKOS. Only this season looks ok, cause of superstars next to him like sloukas,nunn,lessort that gather all defence around them and the cyclist does the only thing he knows how to do, shooting free 3pters.
Reminds me of those who were so excited about sikma signing with loserbiakos, judging from his seasons with eurocup teams like alba and valencia. Grigonis is the same thing, a one dimension player 100% dependant on the team. Cant do much more than getting free shots given by the good players on the court
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paspalj2
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Im not the one saying ataman is the best coach in euroleague. His results say so. He is by far the best coach of this decade in euroleague.
But if Ataman wants him to stay then how can you say that it's better if he leaves? Wouldn't that suggest that you think you know better than him?
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paspalj2
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Maybe it's been written here before but Efes seems to be targeting Xavi Pascual. Our Efes friends here can finally chill if that's the case.
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Levenspiel2
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Maybe it's been written here before but Efes seems to be targeting Xavi Pascual. Our Efes friends here can finally chill if that's the case.
Efes tried to sign him last year too, but there was an unbridgeable gap between the salary expectations. Maybe both sides are closer now in terms of financials, but I suspect Pascual is the most probable candidate for Barcelona this summer.
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paspalj2
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Efes tried to sign him last year too, but there was an unbridgeable gap between the salary expectations. Maybe both sides are closer now in terms of financials, but I suspect Pascual is the most probable candidate for Barcelona this summer.
I don't think Barcelona can offer him more money and on the plus side, maybe he can get some freedom to rebuild in Efes (not sure what's the situation with expiring contracts). But sure maybe he wants to go back to Spain to a familiar place.
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Toruko2
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I don't think Barcelona can offer him more money and on the plus side, maybe he can get some freedom to rebuild in Efes (not sure what's the situation with expiring contracts). But sure maybe he wants to go back to Spain to a familiar place.
I hope so. I dont want him in Istanbul.
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paspalj2
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I hope so. I dont want him in Istanbul.
Really? Why is that? I consider him a really good coach.
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Toruko2
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Really? Why is that? I consider him a really good coach.
He has a good first plan but he cant really react to new circumstances within games. And he is not known as someone who develops player to the next level like a Jasikevicius.
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Levenspiel2
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I would like to have Pascual at Efes, but I assumed Barca would not continue with Grimau, and after several years of disappointment, would pursue Pascual as a proven solution. We'll see.I don't think Barcelona can offer him more money and on the plus side, maybe he can get some freedom to rebuild in Efes (not sure what's the situation with expiring contracts). But sure maybe he wants to go back to Spain to a familiar place.
Whomever comes to Efes will have the chance to build his team. Clyburn, Larkin, Pleiss are expiring. Beaubois, Willis, Oturu, i think are optional for 2024/25. Jones, Bryant, Thompson, Osmani under contract for another year.
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janketa2
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Jones, Bryant, Thompson, Osmani under contract for another year.
I can't imagine any rebuilding that includes Jones
Just like we still have Kokoskov's shadow in Fener, he will be Can's signature over Efes'a roster until contract expire
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paspalj2
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I can't imagine any rebuilding that includes Jones
Just like we still have Kokoskov's shadow in Fener, he will be Can's signature over Efes'a roster until contract expire
Bryant, Thompson, and Osmani are good players. I don't think one player can constitute an entire signature. If Levenspiel is right then it seems that the next coach will have some freedom to build and that is nice. A good Efes team is needed in the EL.
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Toruko2
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Efes back court is not that bad. I dont see any other option than keeping Larkin in the team but the team needs any anchor stone big. Someone like Tavares is much needed. Jones is out, he proved that he is not even enough for the bench. I wouldnt keep Oturu but he could be a good piece for the bench. My man for the bench is David McCormack though. Great upside as a center. Alternatively Omer Faruk Yurtseven would be a nice option too but I dont see him coming over the next season.
The PF guys must be exchanged entirely. Just Osmani is a good guy for the bench position. My man for the starting spot is Mamukelashvili.
The SF position: Clyburn is history, has too many flaws especially on the defensive end. My first target would be Bonzie Colson. Bryant is ok and Erkan Yilmaz as a third option is also more than acceptable.
The SG position: We need to revive Furkan Korkmaz from the deaths and I am not against Beaubois to stay for one more year.
PGs: Larkin and DT should be safe.
The PF guys must be exchanged entirely. Just Osmani is a good guy for the bench position. My man for the starting spot is Mamukelashvili.
The SF position: Clyburn is history, has too many flaws especially on the defensive end. My first target would be Bonzie Colson. Bryant is ok and Erkan Yilmaz as a third option is also more than acceptable.
The SG position: We need to revive Furkan Korkmaz from the deaths and I am not against Beaubois to stay for one more year.
PGs: Larkin and DT should be safe.
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Levenspiel2
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I doubt it. Larkin will ask for at least Thompson's salary ($2.3m/year), but he's not playing at that level. Compared to performance, both of them are overpaid. Plus, Larkin is a bit of a head case. We had a roster and a coach that could handle his ups and downs, but those days are gone.PGs: Larkin and DT should be safe.
Regardless, someone will pay him the money. I hope it won't be Efes.
I saw some rumors about Evans moving to Olympiakos. Now, that's a player we should have chased.
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Toruko2
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I doubt it. Larkin will ask for at least Thompson's salary ($2.3m/year), but he's not playing at that level. Compared to performance, both of them are overpaid. Plus, Larkin is a bit of a head case. We had a roster and a coach that could handle his ups and downs, but those days are gone.
Regardless, someone will pay him the money. I hope it won't be Efes.
I saw some rumors about Evans moving to Olympiakos. Now, that's a player we should have chased.
I dont think that Efes will let him sail away. I know, playing him is very dangerous but I dont see any alternatives. I am sure hell stay. He wasnt that bad this season. Larkin is getting 4 million dollar btw. Signing him to a 2,3 million dollar contract would be great.
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EverGreen2
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PAO has made a 2 year contract offer to Kendrick Nunn to continue with improved financial terms.
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paspalj2
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PAO has made a 2 year contract offer to Kendrick Nunn to continue with improved financial terms.
Where did you see this last part?