European Competitions 2023/24 - Signings & Rumours

[janketa2]

I thought that you meant that the team who signs Mirotic will win EL title after 2 seasons. Did I get it wrong?
What makes you think that I don't want this for my team? We haven't won EL title since 2011. I don't expect us to win it next season or the following one. To be honest, I expect us to reach top-8 and I just hope to participate in F4 next season.

Ataman made final with Efes in 1st season and won the title next season. Efes was last team in regular season prior to that

 

[tonia2]

Ataman made final with Efes in 1st season and won the title next season. Efes was last team in regular season prior to that

In other words, you are sure that we will sign Mirotic and you predict that Ataman will repeat history with Panathinaikos?
Just to be clear, what I meant is that I don't expect your prediction to come true but even for the slight possibility that you come true, I want Mirotic to my team and win EL title.
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[Edgar3]

Mirotic has agreed with PANATHINAIKOS.
Papapetrou willbe the backup SF. Our main target is still Hezonja
We will get an expensive sg. I dont think that will be napier, but someone from the nba. I still think that will be korkmaz or some other nbaer
And we will get another center,if papagiannis leaves, which now looks most possible scenario. We need some heavyweight center and i would try either dwight howard or demarcous cousins. Both will cause season ticket sales to explode (which will happen anyway if we sign hezonja, all PANATHINAIKOS fans want him in the team). Ok all apart from those considering lucic (or even kaselakis maybe) as better choice.

I love how you have in almost every comment these cheap shots
if Papagiannis leaves I hope we will sign someone who can stretch the floor. Some player like Sanli...so it's opposite than Lessort. And with Sloukas, Vildoza and Grant being players that has to have the ball in their hands actually Korkmaz or someone like him makes a lot of sense. Hezonja would be cherry at the top but I think that's very tough...

 

[janketa2]

In other words, you are sure that we will sign Mirotic and you predict that Ataman will repeat history with Panathinaikos?
Just to be clear, what I meant is that I don't expect your prediction to come true but even for the slight possibility that you come true, I want Mirotic to my team and win EL title.
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I expect that from Mirotic, that could be Milan or CZ too, who knows. Who said anything about Pao

I evaluate players not teams and I am joking btw

 

[paspalj2]

I expect that from Mirotic, that could be Milan or CZ too, who knows. Who said anything about Pao

This whole interaction has been very confusing to me. Not sure if it's language barrier or something but I'm gonna let it go because my brain hurts.

 

[Toruko2]

This whole interaction has been very confusing to me. Not sure if it's language barrier or something but I'm gonna let it go because my brain hurts.

hahahahahaha

 

[tonia2]

I expect that from Mirotic, that could be Milan or CZ too, who knows. Who said anything about Pao

I evaluate players not teams and I am joking btw

You said:

Ataman made final with Efes in 1st season and won the title next season. Efes was last team in regular season prior to that

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​​I predict that team who brings Mirotic could win EL in next two seasons.

I just put the puzzle pieces together ​

 

[janketa2]

You said:



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I just put the puzzle pieces together ​

We should back to simple thinking like Toruko for instance, low iq sweet dreams and smile on the face

 

[Obina2]

Teodosic to Zvezda finally confirmed.

Campazzo must decide if he stay or leave to Madrid till 15. July. Pangos is one option to replace him.

 

[maccabeo2]

u were distracted! yes i always tought critics are the best way to improve, but i often wrote something i liked a lot. fischer, diba, cohen, caner, morris, ingles,...i cant even naming all players i loved. sure they are much less than the ones i despise

 

[maccabeo2]

i'm impressed by pana. sloukas is an enormous add, but what else? overrate team till now.impressed by Ataman choices.

 

[Levenspiel2]

Supporting Olympiakos is not my favorite thing, but come on.. They had a great season, finished 1st at regular season and were really close to win the championship. So, why not be a tempting destination? They have already signed Milutinov, don't you consider him as a European star?

Oly will be up there again this year. Transfers in and out so far are balanced, and they're still a top 4 team. Adding Mirotic will make them number 1 favorite, imho. it's just nonsense to claim they lost their attraction.

 

[Levenspiel2]

Panathinaikos has officialy extended an offer to Papapetrou, 1.5 mil for 2 years. The article from SDNA mentions that Ataman has requested a strong greek core which goes a bit against what our Turkish friends have said here about him.

The only local player he had trusted was Sanli. All others had a hard time with him both on and off the court. I put most of the blame on him, but not all. He has high expectations and little patience. Most players cannot flourish under that pressure. Onuralp Bitim almost quit bball, Saybir looked dead, and both of them immediately shined once out (you can add Musa and Petrusev to the list). Previously decent players (Gecim, Arna, Guven, etc etc) disappeared. Maybe he will have a different approach in Greece, or maybe his players will react better than Turkish. We will see.

Ataman being a vocal Galatasaray fan, he sounds like he missed coaching a team with passionate fans (Efes has lots of fans, but way too peaceful). This is going to be a great experiment to follow, whichever direction it goes .

 

[alberto2]

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[paspalj2]

The only local player he had trusted was Sanli. All others had a hard time with him both on and off the court. I put most of the blame on him, but not all. He has high expectations and little patience. Most players cannot flourish under that pressure. Onuralp Bitim almost quit bball, Saybir looked dead, and both of them immediately shined once out (you can add Musa and Petrusev to the list). Previously decent players (Gecim, Arna, Guven, etc etc) disappeared. Maybe he will have a different approach in Greece, or maybe his players will react better than Turkish. We will see.

Ataman being a vocal Galatasaray fan, he sounds like he missed coaching a team with passionate fans (Efes has lots of fans, but way too peaceful). This is going to be a great experiment to follow, whichever direction it goes .

It’s pretty intriguing to see how Ataman vs DPG will work out if results are not as good as expected.

 

[tonia2]

It’s pretty intriguing to see how Ataman vs DPG will work out if results are not as good as expected.

Seeing the way DPG supported Radonjic, I believe he will not put pressure on Ataman, at least until February.

 

[AmonRA2]

teodosic zu zvezda
i was hoping that dusko would selecting players, but not, covic again making his wishes which always are big fails..
if bjelica also come, we could easily switch to eurocup..

well, covic again win, which means zvezda again lost..
obviously we are making team for top14

 

[slice me nice2]

The only local player he had trusted was Sanli. All others had a hard time with him both on and off the court. I put most of the blame on him, but not all. He has high expectations and little patience. Most players cannot flourish under that pressure. Onuralp Bitim almost quit bball, Saybir looked dead, and both of them immediately shined once out (you can add Musa and Petrusev to the list). Previously decent players (Gecim, Arna, Guven, etc etc) disappeared. Maybe he will have a different approach in Greece, or maybe his players will react better than Turkish. We will see.

Ataman being a vocal Galatasaray fan, he sounds like he missed coaching a team with passionate fans (Efes has lots of fans, but way too peaceful). This is going to be a great experiment to follow, whichever direction it goes .

During Ataman's career at Efes, he never had a strong core of Turkish players who could compete at the Euroleague level. I have never thought that this was a matter of trust or distrust in domestic players, and I believe people often criticize Ataman unnecessarily in this regard. Among the main Turkish players he coached during his time at Efes, such as Gecim, Sanli, Tuncer, Young Bitim and Young Saybir, Guven, and Gazi, Sanli was the only player who could contribute effectively in the Euroleague and Ataman already knew how to get the maximum performance from him. In the last 3-4 seasons, there hasn't been a Turkish player market capable of playing at the Euroleague level. Now we have a couple of players like Kabaca or Bitim who can contribute at this level, but Ataman never had the chance to play with players of this profile.

The Greek Euroleague player pool is much wider, and the players in his roster are capable of making direct contributions. Players like Sloukas, Mitoglou, Papagiannis or Papapetrou are proven players and it is fact that they are not included in the team solely because they are Greek. The belief that Ataman has an aversion to domestic players is completely false. Ataman can not tolerate weakness or lack of enthusiasm in players. Some players, especially Turkish ones, want their egos to be stroked and expect the coach to be more instructive or paternal, but Ataman is definitely not that type of person. It can be debated whether this is the right approach, but this approach has never changed in him, and he has achieved many things with this character.

 

[Toruko2]

During Ataman's career at Efes, he never had a strong core of Turkish players who could compete at the Euroleague level. I have never thought that this was a matter of trust or distrust in domestic players, and I believe people often criticize Ataman unnecessarily in this regard. Among the main Turkish players he coached during his time at Efes, such as Gecim, Sanli, Tuncer, Young Bitim and Young Saybir, Guven, and Gazi, Sanli was the only player who could contribute effectively in the Euroleague and Ataman already knew how to get the maximum performance from him. In the last 3-4 seasons, there hasn't been a Turkish player market capable of playing at the Euroleague level. Now we have a couple of players like Kabaca or Bitim who can contribute at this level, but Ataman never had the chance to play with players of this profile.

The Greek Euroleague player pool is much wider, and the players in his roster are capable of making direct contributions. Players like Sloukas, Mitoglou, Papagiannis or Papapetrou are proven players and it is fact that they are not included in the team solely because they are Greek. The belief that Ataman has an aversion to domestic players is completely false. Ataman can not tolerate weakness or lack of enthusiasm in players. Some players, especially Turkish ones, want their egos to be stroked and expect the coach to be more instructive or paternal, but Ataman is definitely not that type of person. It can be debated whether this is the right approach, but this approach has never changed in him, and he has achieved many things with this character.

Abolute true. In addition to that he gave every player a chance (more or less). Gecim for example had many opportunities to prove himself but he couldnt contribute but playing in a well functioning elite team it isnt that easy anyway. The only thing Efes and Ataman could be blamed is the lack of information about Turkish players.

 

[tonia2]

Abolute true. In addition to that he gave every player a chance (more or less). Gecim for example had many opportunities to prove himself but he couldnt contribute but playing in a well functioning elite team it isnt that easy anyway. The only thing Efes and Ataman could be blamed is the lack of information about Turkish players.

Also the fact that they didn't let Micic play to game of Serbia against Turkey