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[Eurobasket 2017 Final] - Slovenia vs Serbia

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[Eurobasket 2017 Final] - Slovenia vs Serbia


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Why is it so hard to accept any criticism against a player who played for Fener? He was by far the best player of Serbia the whole Eurobasket, then again as in defeat where he is not going to be blamed for it, it is the same with victory and success. He didn't do it alone, and others have helped. The fact that in general he doesn't play well in the clutch minutes of 4th quarter in the biggest games is something that has been around. Does that mean, he is a bad player? No, he is a great player but just there should be someone else who takes care of that. It's not always the best player that should take the final shots etc.

The fact that Dragic and Doncic was not even on the court in the clutch minutes of 4th Q in the final but still he is the one a not closer guy.
 
Congrats to Slovenia.They deserved to be a champion.

majority of the serbians here are Zvezda fans. Bogdanović was a Partizan player.
they will always find nice words for Gudurić for instance and whenever it will be possible they will bash Bogdan.
it's like that on other forums as well.

I wrote this a hundred times.This is absolutely sad but true.
 
Why is it so hard to accept any criticism against a player who played for Fener? He was by far the best player of Serbia the whole Eurobasket, then again as in defeat where he is not going to be blamed for it, it is the same with victory and success. He didn't do it alone, and others have helped. The fact that in general he doesn't play well in the clutch minutes of 4th quarter in the biggest games is something that has been around. Does that mean, he is a bad player? No, he is a great player but just there should be someone else who takes care of that. It's not always the best player that should take the final shots etc.

Regarding his defense, please don't start with that. Dragic killed him and one legged Jovic, actually once Micic took over that was the best defense on him. Shved also destroyed him twice. Bertans Sr. killed him in the first game. He was given sooo much responsibility offensively (this is why I say the coach is to blame before all), that he couldn't keep up defensively. Whoever played vs Bogdan this Eurobasket he had a field day, since he had to play 35 minutes every game (ever irrelevant ones) and about half of those minutes he was the PG, carrying the ball over halfcourt with ball pressure. He is not a bad defender, but neither great. In this tournament he couldn't defend since he was practically dead.

Actually others did not help enough. Only player with real heart In Serbia was Bogdanovic in whole championship. Without Bogdanovic you could not have reached semi finals.

It is not because of he played in Fenerbahçe. There are lots of bullshit on social media that 99% is from CZ fans blaming Bogdanovic for the loss. You are not fair.

If your talls did not shit all match you could have won easily. If Vidmar did not steal the ball you were the champion.

The fact that CZ fans are not fair not like Partizan fans.
 
Actually others did not help enough. Only player with real heart In Serbia was Bogdanovic in whole championship. Without Bogdanovic you could not have reached semi finals.

It is not because of he played in Fenerbahçe. There are lots of bullshit on social media that 99% is from CZ fans blaming Bogdanovic for the loss. You are not fair.

If your talls did not shit all match you could have won easily. If Vidmar did not steal the ball you were the champion.

The fact that CZ fans are not fair not like Partizan fans.

Hahahahh. I can't believe what you are writing. Only player with real heart is Bogdanovic. That is pathetic excuse for a comment.

And I am not blaming Bogdanovic for the loss, but Djordjevic.

So Zvezda fans bad, Partizan fans good. Haahhaha. You truly are crazy...

I hope he gets a new national team with more heart and maybe he will win the gold...
 
The fact that Dragic and Doncic was not even on the court in the clutch minutes of 4th Q in the final but still he is the one a not closer guy.

Doncic injured, Dragic in cramps. Riiiight, they chose not to play. Oh, waiiiit.
 
Actually others did not help enough. Only player with real heart In Serbia was Bogdanovic in whole championship. Without Bogdanovic you could not have reached semi finals.

It is not because of he played in Fenerbahçe. There are lots of bullshit on social media that 99% is from CZ fans blaming Bogdanovic for the loss. You are not fair.

If your talls did not shit all match you could have won easily. If Vidmar did not steal the ball you were the champion.

The fact that CZ fans are not fair not like Partizan fans.

Bogdanovic is reason why Serbia reached the finals, but also the reason why Serbia lost. He had selfish moments a couple of times in last 5 minutes of 4th quarter and a couple of time in 2nd quarter when Slovenia went to +11, but then again Slovenians really baited him as he had a couple of times mismatch against taller and slower opponents. I was expecting he would really let someone else to do their part of the work, as whole team was talking about some sort of "unity".
 
Bogdanovic is reason why Serbia reached the finals, but also the reason why Serbia lost. He had selfish moments a couple of times in last 5 minutes of 4th quarter and a couple of time in 2nd quarter when Slovenia went to +11, but then again Slovenians really baited him as he had a couple of times mismatch against taller and slower opponents. I was expecting he would really let someone else to do their part of the work, as whole team was talking about some sort of "unity".

He was also the reason of Guduric's turnover and unsp foul and Vidmar's steal. He was also the reason of Vidmar did his first foul in last quarter.
 
He was also the reason of Guduric's turnover and unsp foul and Vidmar's steal. He was also the reason of Vidmar did his first foul in last quarter.

Don't be hysteric. The game was decided in last 2-3 minutes. Sure, I agree. Guduric made a stupid foul, but he had to play. We had Lazic injured and you could see Jovic was barely running in first half due to injury so he was useless.
 
I am Zvezda fan and i really like Bogdan. He is hero for me.

I have no bad words for any player or coach. My prediction was 1/8 with this team. This was really hard job for Djordjevic, everything started with Jokic and Bjelica, then Raduljica, Nedovic, Kalinic, Teo, Simonovic..... Lazic, Jovic. After all we had chance for gold, but i can't complaining. Next euro gold is for us. :)

That's 99.99% sure, if we come with the strongest squad.

Also, the same story will be about the world championship. We take gold or Americans.
 
Doncic injured, Dragic in cramps. Riiiight, they chose not to play. Oh, waiiiit.
The point is even your best players out in the clutch minutes you could win tie game due to unity and dedication as a team member. You hysterically accused Bogdan for your loss but everyone know here that without him no one dedicated himself in this Serbian squad as Prepelic,Nikolic,Blazic did. Eventually they brought the trophy, not injured Doncic nor cramped Dragic.
 
Serbia had a perfect gameplan but players didnt execute in the end.. extra body like nedovic would be really helpful and will not let shved or dragic scored big..
 
Don't be hysteric. The game was decided in last 2-3 minutes. Sure, I agree. Guduric made a stupid foul, but he had to play. We had Lazic injured and you could see Jovic was barely running in first half due to injury so he was useless.

So Bogdan was the responsible from the loss because of Lazic was injured, Jovic was barely walking? In this case you are the hysteric
 
The point is even your best players out in the clutch minutes you could win tie game due to unity and dedication as a team member. You hysterically accused Bogdan for your loss but everyone know here that without him no one dedicated himself in this Serbian squad as Prepelic,Nikolic,Blazic did. Eventually they brought the trophy, not injured Doncic nor cramped Dragic.

But I didn't, you actually are putting words in my mouth. I just said he is not that guy, to finish off games and get you the trophy. If that is blaming, I don't know. People need to get their brains replaced. Also I said he was by far the best player on our team and he played well most of the EB.

Still the attitude you can't criticize him is just stupid and retarded. And we can see who are the people that have shown up in this discussion. Fener fans, that is all to be said.
 
That's 99.99% sure, if we come with the strongest squad.

Also, the same story will be about the world championship. We take gold or Americans.

The stores sell plenty of gold if you want to get some. Some people are reaaaaalllly high in this forum. Too much smoking going on in Serbia nowadays.
 
The bridge in istanbul that connects asia to europe colored in colors of Slovenia to honor their championship.

 
Some serbs after some good tournaments smoked too much...They will beat even Usa now :D twice you were destroyed by 40 in finals by them...even 5 teodosics in a team wont help to win againts americans.

About other places new tournament new stories...Nobody could believe that Slovenia will win eurobasket before tournament.They were somewhere like 7-9 by rankings.
 
That's 99.99% sure, if we come with the strongest squad.
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oh, off course! I would even say it's 100% and a little bit more...:rolleyes:

Have in mind next EB will take place in 2021, Teo 34yo, Bjelica 33yo. Jokic so far hasn't proved to be a true patriot of the team. Serbia is a great team with a great BB school (I think there are only few teams at their level BB school wise, it's Spain and Lithuania), but you ain't Spain of 2001-2015 as of yet. Heavy contender, but you need to grab few titles to begin with.
 
So Bogdan was the responsible from the loss because of Lazic was injured, Jovic was barely walking? In this case you are the hysteric

What is wrong with you? Is that genetic?

Bogdan should've pass the ball after he got double teamed at 2-3 minutes to go. He didn't got double teamed once in that short period of time but on two or three possesions. Every possesion ended the same, him shooting for three over 2 Slovenian guys. And in such a physical game as this one was, 2 guards are not enough so Guduric had to play (because we had two other guards injured on our bench).
 
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I guess Dragic has given an answer to everybody that think Europe is coming closer to Nba. I'm afraid it doesn't look like that.

The funny thing is people think that the last US team in Olympics was not a weak team.
Let's look at who they were missing in the last Olympics (and I will only list the most obvious ones):

Russell Westbrook
Stephen Curry
James Harden
Kawhi Leonard
LeBron James
Gordon Hayward
Anthony Davis
LaMarcus Aldridge
Chris Paul
Andre Iguodala
Kevin Love
John Wall
Blake Griffin
Andre Drummond
Damian Lillard
Bradley Beal
Michael Conley

The list goes on and on...

The reality is, if USA team goes to a tournament with full roster and want to beat a team (any team in the world) by 40, they will do so. Heck - just put 4 out of 5 from GSW starting 5 along with Lebron/Kawhi/Davis, they will beat any team by 40.
 
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