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EL2023/24 - Gameday 10

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Toruko said:
Efes gave him too few pieces and the whole player management was a big problem. I mean if you give Tibor Pleiss 0,9 Millions for 2 years and you have Jones and Zizic beside him with two pf with no EL experience there isnt much to do. What I am trying to say is that nobody seems to expect anything from him. Not with this roster.
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But still when you have Larkin-Thompson with Beaubois and Bryant coming from the bench you should play much better. They are not new pieces. He is forcing too much with rotations and his love for Jones is strange for real...
 
Edgar said:
But still when you have Larkin-Thompson with Beaubois and Bryant coming from the bench you should play much better. They are not new pieces. He is forcing too much with rotations and his love for Jones is strang for real...
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Basically, you are right but I still think that he deserves more credit. He started with TT Ankara also very bad and was able to create good chemistry at last and we need some more Turkish coaches beside Ataman.
 
Toruko said:
Basically, you are right but I still think that he deserves more credit. He started with TT Ankara also very bad and was able to create good chemistry at last and we need some more Turkish coaches beside Ataman.
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No, I agree with you. As a new coach he needs a credit but also some things he does seems like he is not the EL level. And if front office and the owner of Efes thinks that this team should be in the playoff convo and fight for F4(imo they should) then maybe Can isn't the one. But as you said, let him work, time will tell.
 
Edgar said:
Also, why no one gave chance to Sarica in the recent times?
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Sarica knows one style of game and he needs certain player to do so. He is not able to create a system based on the talent on the roster and he is not a good offensive coach. His offense stuck too often. Very overrated if you ask me. I would rather give Atamans old assistant coach Sekizkok a chance rather than Sarica.
 
Toruko said:
Sarica knows one style of game and he needs certain player to do so. He is not able to create a system based on the talent on the roster and he is not a good offensive coach. His offense stuck too often. Very overrated if you ask me. I would rather give Atamans old assistant coach Sekizk
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Yeah he does really god job at Dacka. I mean, he has Timma in his team and they play good. That says all :p
I like Sarica. Maybe he should have more success in the BCL...
 
Edgar said:
Yeah he does really god job at Dacka. I mean, he has Timma in his team and they play good. That says all :p
I like Sarica. Maybe he should have more success in the BCL...
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Ataman for example is a great offensive coach. His offense flows all the time and his roster building is great but when it comes to give a reaction within a game he is too weak imo.
 
What a monster this 180cm guy is(sorry Bob)
Alone against one of the best teams in EL. We all know that Partizan was one step from the title last season...
Efes has definitely the worst frontcourt in EL , but one of the best backcourts(together with CZ). Jones succeeded to be even bigger clown then Zizic

Efes needs new center asap
 
Edgar said:
Also, why no one gave chance to Sarica in the recent times?
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I think Efes interviewed him last year when it was clear Ataman was leaving. Somehow it didn't work, and we, majority of Efes fans, sighed a huge relief.

​​​Sarica has great potential imho, but people say he's not a hardworker. A combination of Sarica & Can could do wonders.
 
Levenspiel said:
It's actually insane that they won the EL without any proper centers.
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Insane that they won 5 games this season with this frontcourt

You know my opinion about Can, one of the reasons is that he knew how weak Efes's center line is, but still he brought Jones, typical EC level player with low IQ and character for EL
 
i really want itoudis to fix his sh*t in the team and guide us to the victory but the way everything goes im afraid he either will be fired at the end of the season or he will leave the team. and im afraid i dont see anyone who could replace him. it is sad when you think about it. most fener fans were hopeful beginning of the season but injuries and change of game plans kinda destroyed us. yeah, it makes me sad :(.
 
janketa said:
What a monster this 180cm guy is(sorry Bob)
Alone against one of the best teams in EL. We all know that Partizan was one step from the title last season...
Efes has definitely the worst frontcourt in EL , but one of the best backcourts(together with CZ). Jones succeeded to be even bigger clown then Zizic

Efes needs new center asap
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Well, this Partizan lineup isn't the same as that Partizan line up. They don't have Punter, Exum, Avramovic, Lessort, and they backcourt isn't that good without two main players. ;) Larkin was in a beast mode, but this wont last because Efes has such thin bench, especially without Willis who would miss 6-8 weeks. So, Efes now have Beaubois, Larkin, Clyburn and Thompson and no bench players in four positions, and just Jones and Zizic on C. That's only six players and that's insane.
 
Don't underestimate Dozier, Kaminskiy, Caboclo, Jaramaz and Ponitka, on the paper even stronger roster. Missing Panter change balance though

But never mind, that doesn't change fact what Larkin did. Point is that Partizan isn't some clown team but very serious EL contender.
 
This season is lost already for Fener, in fact it was lost even before start.

The most untalented team in EL, without a single creative player in the team. Bringing Madar was a mistake even bigger then Calathes. About Willbekin is useless to say anything cos it;s known

The solution for next season could be return of Neto who is ok starting pg and bringing Larkin or Nedovic, Willbekin has 3 years contract but that could be solved, there are some clubs from Albania and Moldova that are inerested in such pearl!! Joke aside I hope that there are still fools like Fener in Europe who want him.
 
janketa said:
Don't underestimate Dozier, Kaminskiy, Caboclo, Jaramaz and Ponitka, on the paper even stronger roster. Missing Panter change balance though

But never mind, that doesn't change fact what Larkin did. Point is that Partizan isn't some clown team but very serious EL contender.
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Partizan would have won the game, but Zeljko made a mistake keeping that clown of a player Jaramaz that long in the 4th quarter. He is a eurocap level player at his best. When he made that TO & technical foul the winner was decided.
The guy runs on the floor like a headless chicken. No shot, no court vision and under avg assistant.

I just hope new addition on PG position soon.
 
Lyonswim said:
Partizan would have won the game, but Zeljko made a mistake keeping that clown of a player Jaramaz that long in the 4th quarter. He is a eurocap level player at his best. When he made that TO & technical foul the winner was decided.
The guy runs on the floor like a headless chicken. No shot, no court vision and under avg assistant.

I just hope new addition on PG position soon.
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I don't necessarily agree with you, but Jaramaz (yaramaz) literally means "useless" in Turkish :D
 
Levenspiel said:
I don't necessarily agree with you, but Jaramaz (yaramaz) literally means "useless" in Turkish :D
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That explains it. Haha
If there was a reward for the worst PG in the league he would be a strong contender.
 
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