EL2022/23 - The Playoffs

[Nemanja952]

I have seen Llull and Punter talking pretty friendly after the match . And you should stop acting like Partizan's players are all innocent. Do you remember this?

https://twitter.com/bojanbondzic/status/1635396716840251392?s=20

The same character again.

What the hell matter is other Partizan's game with those vs Real ? More then clearly Real used benefit due to fight. What we should discuss about ? We can discuss about court and who deserved more win. Undoubtedly, fight helped Real to win in this series.

 

[Killer Bob2]

What the hell matter is other Partizan's game with those vs Real ? More then clearly Real used benefit due to fight. What we should discuss about ? We can discuss about court and who deserved more win. Undoubtedly, fight helped Real to win in this series.

For sure not in game 5, where Partizan had full roster and Real didn't. And I would say that the biggest difference between game 2 , where Partizan was clearly better, and game 3 was Tavares playing, which has nothing to do with the fight. Game 4 was strange, because of everything that happened in Belgrade. That might have bigger influence that fight itself.

Predicting what would have happened without fight is similar to predict, who would have won first 2 games, if Tavares wasn't injured. 4 of 5 games in the series were very close, only game when Real didn't have front court wasn't, I kinda doubt that would be much different without the fight. The only thing that I'm sorry is game 4, which shouldn't have been played.

That other game matters, because Lessort basically did the same thing, which costed him the game against Real. It looks to me that he's pretty thin on nerves.

Fight or no fight, Partizan had 3 games to qualify, Real being very crippled in game 5. They were close but not close enough to win. I would say that they have missed experience the most. Closing the series is always the most difficult.

Real has won, but lost 2 very important players for F4, which will probably cost them dearly. So it wasn't exactly great series for them either.

 

[Shawshank2]

Partizan fans only crying about fight from game 2 and ignoring what happend in game 3 and game 4 and game 5 like those games didnt even happend and dont wanna see that partizan simply was outplayed by real experience in 3 diffrent game endings

When Punter didnt play game 3 and game 4 because of his crazy actions thats ale was deciding factor,but that Tavares playing only 20min in first 2 games was deciding factor why partizan got 2-0 lead in the first place they ignoring

Very objective fans

 

[tonia2]

Partizan fans only crying about fight from game 2 and ignoring what happend in game 3 and game 4 and game 5 like those games didnt even happend and dont wanna see that partizan simply was outplayed by real experience in 3 diffrent game endings

When Punter didnt play game 3 and game 4 because of his crazy actions thats ale was deciding factor,but that Tavares playing only 20min in first 2 games was deciding factor why partizan got 2-0 lead in the first place they ignoring

Very objective fans

I think it is easy to understand that it has different impact for the team to lose a player from injury compared to lose a player due to this kind of incidents that happened in game 2, which could and definitely should have been avoided, when Partizan was already 0-2 ahead. Real managed to make Partizan lose their concentration and this is how they outplayed Partizan.

 

[Killer Bob2]

I think it is easy to understand that it has different impact for the team to lose a player from injury compared to lose a player due to this kind of incidents that happened in game 2, which could and definitely should have been avoided, when Partizan was already 0-2 ahead. Real managed to make Partizan lose their concentration and this is how they outplayed Partizan.

They still have to beat Partizan 3 times in a row, 2 away games and last at home without 2 very important players.

 

[tonia2]

They still have to beat Partizan 3 times in a row, 2 away games and last at home without 2 very important players.

You tend to forget that after game 2, all Partizan needed to get the ticket to F4 was to win game 3. Losing the momentum and their concentration at game 3 was crucial.

 

[Killer Bob2]

You tend to forget that after game 2, all Partizan needed to get the ticket to F4 was to win game 3. Losing the momentum and their concentration at game 3 was crucial.

Listening to you, I almost believe that they didn't even play last 3 games and winner of the series was announced immediately after the brawl.

 

[tonia2]

Listening to you, I almost believe that they didn't even play last 3 games and winner of the series was announced immediately after the brawl.

Real deservedly won the last 2 games, which would not need to be played if there was no brawl

 

[Killer Bob2]

Real deservedly won the last 2 games, which would not need to be played if there was no brawl

And game 3 was won undeservedly?

 

[tonia2]

And game 3 was won undeservedly?

There is no way Partizan would lose game 3, if there was no brawl at game 2. Therefore, Real deserved to win it for playing "smart"..

 

[Killer Bob2]

There is no way Partizan would lose game 3, if there was no brawl at game 2. Therefore, Real deserved to win it for playing "smart"..

No way?

 

[c-myers2]

The competation is losing its reputation very fast. Ater the real - partizan match up does anyone really care this organisation? The movie which we watched was real comedy. Euroleague doing everything to kill its own organisation.

 

[markkanen2]

You tend to forget that after game 2, all Partizan needed to get the ticket to F4 was to win game 3. Losing the momentum and their concentration at game 3 was crucial.

And you tend to forget that Real played without Tavares half of the first game and whole second game. We will not see the brawl with healthy Tavares, not to mention Poirier who is also important player for blancos. And we shouldn't forget that Partizan is not some fairytale team with small budget, they are state club with big budget which came out of nowhere, I mean they are not Zalgiris. Zalgiris can't sign players like this LeDay, like Punter, Exum or Lessort, Nunnaly, Papapetrou. And who is exactly the owner of BC Partizan? Like, we know who is owner or main sponsor of Real Madrid or Maccabi or PAO or Fenerbahce, but we don't know who owns BC Partizan? Serbian goverment? If we look what Partizan were in the last lets say two decades, they always struggled with money, they couldn't keep their best players, they couldn't sign stars like Obradovic or Exum. Zalgiris is a fairy tale team this year, and that's it, every other club in the Playoffs has money, good and expensive players, they are all the same to me.

 

[tonia2]

And you tend to forget that Real played without Tavares half of the first game and whole second game. We will not see the brawl with healthy Tavares, not to mention Poirier who is also important player for blancos. And we shouldn't forget that Partizan is not some fairytale team with small budget, they are state club with big budget which came out of nowhere, I mean they are not Zalgiris. Zalgiris can't sign players like this LeDay, like Punter, Exum or Lessort, Nunnaly, Papapetrou. And who is exactly the owner of BC Partizan? Like, we know who is owner or main sponsor of Real Madrid or Maccabi or PAO or Fenerbahce, but we don't know who owns BC Partizan? Serbian goverment? If we look what Partizan were in the last lets say two decades, they always struggled with money, they couldn't keep their best players, they couldn't sign stars like Obradovic or Exum. Zalgiris is a fairy tale team this year, and that's it, every other club in the Playoffs has money, good and expensive players, they are all the same to me.

You are right, with healthy Tavares Real easily lost by Partizan in Belgrade 3 games before the end of regular season and we saw no brawl.

 

[Killer Bob2]

You are right, with healthy Tavares Real easily lost by Partizan in Belgrade 3 games before the end of regular season and we saw no brawl.

That game was much more important for Partizan than Real. Last games in RS are more or less formality for the best clubs. And what are we even talking about, Real will play in F4 and Partizan is 1 away game from being eliminated in 1/4 of Aba league.

 

[tonia2]

That game was much more important for Partizan than Real. Last games in RS are more or less formality for the best clubs. And what are we even talking about, Real will play in F4 and Partizan is 1 away game from being eliminated in 1/4 of Aba league.

Real ended 3d in RS, with 1 win less than 1st Olympiakos. I believe that Real cared a lot to win last games in order the get the highest position possible. However, you are right, the fact is that Real will play in F4. This is all that we will remember in the future, not the way it happened.

 

[Killer Bob2]

Real ended 3d in RS, with 1 win less than 1st Olympiakos. I believe that Real cared a lot to win last games in order the get the highest position possible. However, you are right, the fact is that Real will play in F4. This is all that we will remember in the future, not the way it happened.

They needed 2 more wins to be first. And even if they were first not much would have change. I would say that Fener is better than Partizan and you need to win both games in F4.

 

[markkanen2]

You are right, with healthy Tavares Real easily lost by Partizan in Belgrade 3 games before the end of regular season and we saw no brawl.

Completely unimportant game for Real, but if you think that mighty Obrad delivers miracles and that Partizan can normally beat Real with 20 point difference, then you can live in that fantasy.

 

[Serbian_Layup2]

That game was much more important for Partizan than Real. Last games in RS are more or less formality for the best clubs. And what are we even talking about, Real will play in F4 and Partizan is 1 away game from being eliminated in 1/4 of Aba league.

Right, Real received 104 points just because it was an important game for Partizan...they were just generous to Partizan...not like Partizan was good or anything like that...or maybe it had to do something with the fact that Partizan had 21-5 record in the last 4 months of the season. LOL

 

[Serbian_Layup2]

Completely unimportant game for Real, but if you think that mighty Obrad delivers miracles and that Partizan can normally beat Real with 20 point difference, then you can live in that fantasy.

Partizan before that brawl normally beat Real twice in Madrid with and without Tavares, which never happened to Real in the playoffs before, as far as I remember. Was that also fantasy? Were you expecting Partizan to beat Real both games in Madrid before the series started or would you call me a fantasy dreamer if I told you so? It seems the line between fantasy and reality is much thinner than you would think.