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EL2022/23 - The Playoffs

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EL2022/23 - The Playoffs


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So Real have not only kept Yabusele on their roster but also let him attend this game and didn't even have the class to suggest he keep a low profile. Some of their other players were treating him as a conquering hero afterwards.
 
Ok...I won't bother anymore.

After that fight Real has lost Yabusele for the series and they lost Deck in Belgrade. And your assessment how Real is much deeper team isn't accurate, when you know that they were playing already without Poirier, Abalde, Alocen, Causeur and Randolph being pretty useless after being out almost 1 year.
Partizan had full squad in game 1.2 and 5. Real was missing 4-6 players every game.

And about the fight. Yes Llull made hard foul, but nobody forced Punter to punch Musa.
 
Barca didn't want to keep Calathes, but Fener wanted him and so did PAO. You try to give an explanation why Barcelona may wanted him out of the team but all these contradict with the fact that he signed a 2 year contract with Fener and was the personal choice of Itoudis.

And he for sure regrets it, because he was disastrous, like many times before, in playoffs. For that money or cheaper you have players like Punter, Loyd, Brown, Baldwin, Evans, Sloukas...
 
So Real have not only kept Yabusele on their roster but also let him attend this game and didn't even have the class to suggest he keep a low profile. Some of their other players were treating him as a conquering hero afterwards.

Why shouldn't he attend the game?
 
After that fight Real has lost Yabusele for the series and they lost Deck in Belgrade. And your assessment how Real is much deeper team is accurate, when you know that they were playing already without Poirier, Abalde, Alocen, Causeur and Randolph being pretty useless after being out almost 1 year.
Partizan had full squad in game 1.2 and 5. Real was missing 4-6 players every game.

And about the fight. Yes Llull made hard foul, but nobody forced Punter to punch Musa.

Don't you understand that Partizan without either one of Punter, Exum or Lessort is a much weaker team? Real can afford to lose just about anybody except Tavares, and Partizan had lost their irreplaceable players for two crucial games at home and one of them playing through injury rest of the series. That changed momentum of the series. If that didnt happen, how do you think this series would have been finished? Game 5 is something different. So far, 100% of such games were won by home teams in whatever circumstances and times. Real knew how to take advantage in their favor after G2.

By the way, Punter punched Musa only after Musa swinged at him first. So, the real question is why Musa wasn't suspended too?

And for 100th time, I don't care who Real or Partizan missed or might have missed before G2 due to injuries. Those are normal circumstances. The real swing of momentum was caused by suspensions and injuries in G2 that had hit Partizan a lot harder than Real.

I'm done with this, can't go around in circles forever.

Congrats to Real, especially to Balkan boys who bailed royal asses.
 
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Don't you understand that Partizan without either one of Punter, Exum or Lessort is a much weaker team? Real can afford to lose just about anybody except Tavares, and Partizan had lost their irreplaceable players for two crucial games at home and one of them playing through injury rest of the series. That changed momentum of the series. If that didnt happen, how do you think this series would have been finished? Game 5 is something different. So far, 100% of such games were won by home teams in whatever circumstances and times. Real knew how to take advantage in their favor after G2.

By the way, Punter punched Musa only after Musa swinged at him first. So, the real question is why Musa wasn't suspended too?

Game 1 was buzzer beater and in game 2 Real played without Tavares, being totally depleted in front court, nobody knows how game 3,4 and for would have ended, if both teams played everyone. But we know who has won last 3 games.

Real can't replace Yabusele and Deck and they're very thin on guards with all those injuries. Like I said before, Real was pretty bad in this series.

Maybe Punter is better boxer, because Musa wasn't even close to hit him.
 
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I wasn't rooting for any particular team, since I like both... slightly cheering for PAR: my "take home message" from this rmb.par Series is "never lose your focus".

Punter lost it for a few seconds.


Then we can talk about all the rest that happened in and off the court.
 
I wasn't rooting for any particular team, since I like both... slightly cheering for PAR: my "take home message" from this rmb.par Series is "never lose your focus".

Punter lost it for a few seconds.


Then we can talk about all the rest that happened in and off the court.

Totally agree. And we mustn't forget that Partizan was + 18 in second half of game 5, 15 points up just 11 minutes before end, playing with full roster unlike Real. They had everything in their hands but just weren't good enough to close the game.
 
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Partizan blew their chance to participate to F4 but also to win the title. The fact that Real with home advantage ended up being underdog against Partizan says it all.
 
Partizan blew their chance to participate to F4 but also to win the title. The fact that Real with home advantage ended up being underdog against Partizan says it all.

Anything can happen in F4, but experience matters the most in F4 and they have nobody with that except Obra. We have seen in game 5, how they just totally melted down, when they saw the finish.
 
As someone has already written Partizan didn't seem to take the third game too seriously, playing a fourth game with all the tickets already sold at a very high price should have appeared a huge opportunity to everyone, players and management.

A big mistake, they could have won that game and end it there. They woke up real without reason.
 
Anything can happen in F4, but experience matters the most in F4 and they have nobody with that except Obra. We have seen in game 5, how they just totally melted down, when they saw the finish.

I wouldn't call it "melt down". Partizan was 9 points down 2 minutes before the end and managed to be just 3 points 40 sec before the end with the ball in their hands. If the instruction given was for Punter to shoot under any circumstances, this is what happened but it didn't work out for them.
 
I wouldn't call it "melt down". Partizan was 9 points down 2 minutes before the end and managed to be just 3 points 40 sec before the end with the ball in their hands. If the instruction given was for Punter to shoot under any circumstances, this is what happened but it didn't work out for them.

from + 15 in 29th minute to -9 in 37th minute is total meltdown, especially against players that are 38,37 and 35 years old, 10 years from their prime. Those 3 players have won Euroleague 8 years back. It was 37:13 in those 9 minutes.
 
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As someone has already written Partizan didn't seem to take the third game too seriously, playing a fourth game with all the tickets already sold at a very high price should have appeared a huge opportunity to everyone, players and management.

A big mistake, they could have won that game and end it there. They woke up real without reason.

The tickets for the 4th game were released after Partizan's defeat, but I don't think anyone would doubt that they were going to be sold out.
However, I want to believe that this was not the case.
 
The tickets for the 4th game were released after Partizan's defeat, but I don't think anyone would doubt that they were going to be sold out.
However, I want to believe that this was not the case.

You are right of course, yet it seemed to me that they played the last part of that game without the tension and attention required.
 
from + 15 in 29th minute to -9 in 37th minute is total meltdown, especially against players that are 38,37 and 35 years old.

If it was a "total meltdown", there would be no Partizan reaction, but there was. If Punter scored, we would not probably be having this conversation.
 
If it was a "total meltdown", there would be no Partizan reaction, but there was. If Punter scored, we would not probably be having this conversation.

-24 in 9 minutes isn't total meltdown? They hit few desperate shots in the end, when everything was more or less lost, but they have lost the game in those catastrophic minutes. You just can't allow that crippled team like Real scores 37 points in less than 10 minutes. It was mental.
 
-24 in 9 minutes isn't total meltdown? They hit few desperate shots in the end, when everything was more or less lost, but they have lost the game in those catastrophic minutes. You just can't allow that crippled team like Real scores 37 points in less than 10 minutes. It was mental.

Partizan was 3 points down and had the ball, 40 sec before the end. I would not say that everything was lost at that moment.
 
Partizan was 3 points down and had the ball, 40 sec before the end. I would not say that everything was lost at that moment.

They should have been in comfortable lead at that point and not 3 points down, if they weren't out scored 37:13 in those catastrophic minutes. And 3 of those 14 points was Punter's very lucky of the board 3. ;)
 
Anything can happen in F4, but experience matters the most in F4 and they have nobody with that except Obra. We have seen in game 5, how they just totally melted down, when they saw the finish.

Sure, and when they were up 18 points, you just knew they were going to melt down, right? Too bad you didn't post it back then so I wouldn't hope too much.

I bet you were much closer to think it was going to be a blowout win for Partizan at that point. Keep acting like you knew it all when in fact you knew nothing. ;)

It wasn't a meltdown. Smailagić fouled out, Lessort and Exum played both with 4 fouls and had to sit down for longer stretches. Real's depth decided the game, even with all of their absences. You just don't seem to understand that Partizan has basically 8-9 rotational players at this level (plus without Avramović for this game). Real has 15. Look at the freaking box score. Even without Deck and Yabusele, Real played with 11 players this game, two of whom had few minutes. Partizan played with 9 players, one of them with only 4 minutes and the other fouled out in like 8 minutes, which basically means they had to carry out this game with 7 players. Mental breakdown was not the reason why they lost this game.


If Partizan keep this core of players and improve their depth chart with couple of players, they will be among contenders next season.
 
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