EL2022/23 - The Final Four (Kaunas)

[Dreamcatcher2]

You seriously ask this? Lapro always was good combo guard.

You had to add 'in mediocre teams'. Before Barca he had 2 attempts to play in EL: in Basconia and Real and both times he failed. And only last season at 31 he had a good season. But for me he's very questionable: soft, small and not fast. Not a player you want in important and physical games. He was almost non-existant in play offs.

 

[Straight forward2]

You had to add 'in mediocre teams'. Before Barca he had 2 attempts to play in EL: in Basconia and Real and both times he failed. And only last season at 31 he had a good season. But for me he's very questionable: soft, small and not fast. Not a player you want in important and physical games. He was almost non-existant in play offs.

In Real he wasn't all that bad. In Barca better though.

 

[ronmercer802]

Kuric deserves to play some minutes if necessary. The coaches should try not to restrict the roster too much, we have recent examples which confirm this.

S.Obradovic risked losing to Maccabi because he tried to keep James on court at all costs, did you notice the unbelievable improvement when he decided at last to bench him? On the other hand Katash is accused of keeping L.Brown till the end of the game forgetting DiBa, and rightly so.

I could add the latest game Phila-Miami, Rivers overutilized his stars, at the end they were visibly exhausted.

 

[Killer Bob2]

Kuric deserves to play some minutes if necessary. The coaches should try not to restrict the roster too much, we have recent examples which confirm this.

S.Obradovic risked losing to Maccabi because he tried to keep James on court at all costs, did you notice the unbelievable improvement when he decided at last to bench him? On the other hand Katash is accused of keeping L.Brown till the end of the game forgetting DiBa, and rightly so.

I could add the latest game Phila-Miami, Rivers overutilized his stars, at the end they were visibly exhausted.

You probably mean Philadelphia:Boston? There's no way you will ever seen stars in Nba being benched in the end of important games, no matter what.

 

[ronmercer802]

You probably mean Philadelphia:Boston? There's no way you will ever seen stars in Nba being benched in the end of important games, no matter what.

Yes you are right, Phila-Boston of course. Embid and Harden couldn't breathe in the last quarter, they were so tired.

Strazel performed very well during James absence for disciplinary reasons. I really don't understand why S.Obradovic insists on James so much even when it is clear that he damages the team. Against Olympiakos he must review his beliefs.

 

[Levenspiel2]

Yes you are right, Phila-Boston of course. Embid and Harden couldn't breathe in the last quarter, they were so tired..

Harden has looked like this since the first game of the regular season .

I agree Monaco looked much better when Mike James had to take a break, and that he is more harmful than helpful to this team. but he's a controversial player on every platform, among the fans and apparently among the coaches, too.

 

[papaluk4mvp2]

Mike James and Nick Calthes are the most controversial players in Euroleuague,with many fans and many who are thinking that are a big liability for their teams.i tend to agree with the second opinion.I think 9/10 coaches would like James or Calathes in the last minutes of a game in the leading role of a team because Calathes obviously has no threat from the perimeter and James especially in the past is loosing his mind often.However Monaco make the extra step with him as a leader

 

[ronmercer802]

Mike James and Nick Calthes are the most controversial players in Euroleuague,with many fans and many who are thinking that are a big liability for their teams.i tend to agree with the second opinion.I think 9/10 coaches would like James or Calathes in the last minutes of a game in the leading role of a team because Calathes obviously has no threat from the perimeter and James especially in the past is loosing his mind often.However Monaco make the extra step with him as a leader

I can agree but James numbers against Maccabi weren't that controversial. 8/37 3pts in five games, 21,62%.

El Season 27,4%.

People watching the last game of the series perhaps noticed that in the very last minutes when he returned on court, Okobo was trying to keep the ball as long as possible in order to avoid passing it to him lol.

 

[papaluk4mvp2]

Mike James and Nick Calthes are the most controversial players in Euroleuague,with many fans and many who are thinking that are a big liability for their teams.i tend to agree with the second opinion.I think 9/10 coaches would like James or Calathes in the last minutes of a game in the leading role of a team because Calathes obviously has no threat from the perimeter and James especially in the past is loosing his mind often.However Monaco make the extra step with him as a leader

correction

"9/10 coaches of the OPPOSITE teams of course"

 

[Killer Bob2]

correction

"9/10 coaches of the OPPOSITE teams of course"

I would say 10/10 in Calathes' case. James is like Shved was before, big volume with catastrophic efficiency. But I would still rather have James in F4 than Calathes. In 1 game, he can get hot and unstoppable.

 

[papaluk4mvp2]

I would say 10/10 in Calathes' case. James is like Shved was before, big volume with catastrophic efficiency. But I would still rather have James in F4 than Calathes. In 1 game, he can get hot and unstoppable.

Exactly,James is like Shved, and i probably agree of having him instead of Calathes ,especially with recent mature James of Monaco ,that plays with more brain than he used to do in the past.
However as the clock is ticking his brain in crunch time tends to black out and see nothing but the basket, even this year.
let's see on Friday.
Common guys!!Final 4 is coming..no turkish teams,no Maccabi no party in the forum.
Actually it is very interesting the fact that this is the first time since 2014!! without a turkish club in final 4

 

[Straight forward2]

Common guys!!Final 4 is coming..no turkish teams,no Maccabi no party in the forum.
Actually it is very interesting the fact that this is the first time since 2014!! without a turkish club in final 4

I have to admit I enjoy this. Nothing against Fener, Efes, Maccabi, but sometimes it feels that EL forum is all about these teams. When PAO was great it was the same with Greek posters. Now no-one exceeds on one team too much.

 

[Levenspiel2]

Common guys!!Final 4 is coming..no turkish teams,no Maccabi no party in the forum.
Actually it is very interesting the fact that this is the first time since 2014!! without a turkish club in final 4

that's the fate of the forums in general I'm afraid.
I do miss the good old days, even the chaotic ones with several bans per hour.

I have to admit I enjoy this. Nothing against Fener, Efes, Maccabi, but sometimes it feels that EL forum is all about these teams. When PAO was great it was the same with Greek posters. Now no-one exceeds on one team too much.

it could indeed get annoying with a lopsided fanbase, but this is not better. Too quiet.
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[berry2]

Itoudis had Oly locked down offensively in the whole series.Great tactical aproach.I dont think Monaco can do it that way with Obradovic.Their sheer athleticism could though.Oly has to face the paradox which is the fact that he needs to run and have a high tempo so our offence can really produce but,on the the other hand you want a slower tempo against such a team as Monaco.Its a real tough match up for Oly and if i had to put my money on it i would lean to Monaco.They have 3 quality guys that can make the individual plays if things dont work.Oly has hardly one and a half (McKisic cant really shoot).
I really dont like Barcelona.I dont like Real also.Its a 50-50 for me here,who knows,maybe the old guys from Real have a last spark.
Money on the line,its Barca-Monaco.Barca wins.

 

[papaluk4mvp2]

that's the fate of the forums in general I'm afraid.
I do miss the good old days, even the chaotic ones with several bans per hour.


it could indeed get annoying with a lopsided fanbase, but this is not better. Too quiet.
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you are absolutuley correct my friend,the interst has generally dropped here and
especially in the Fantasy aspect
,the current game format definitely doesn't help at all.
i am hoping next year finally they will bring back the old format or at least something close to that.

 

[Killer Bob2]

you are absolutuley correct my friend,the interst has generally dropped here and
especially in the Fantasy aspect
,the current game format definitely doesn't help at all.
i am hoping next year finally they will bring back the old format or at least something close to that.

They won't. They didn't like how the same players were always on the top. The game was too difficult for random players, no chance to do anything with just luck, and they want mass to play the game.

But I had to admit that first price was really something special, to have all the access, even to be on the court after the final game is really something that cannot be bought.

 

[Straight forward2]

Why Euroleague sucking so bad lately? They ceased to broadcast ANGT games live...They can even show youngsters games for free? Bodiroga sucks balls so far. I knew he will be horrific. Random standards regarding awards. Silly decision regarding ANGT. He brought good old "Serbian/Eastern europe" standards on the table. Expected.

 

[Serbian_Layup2]

Why Euroleague sucking so bad lately? They ceased to broadcast ANGT games live...They can even show youngsters games for free? Bodiroga sucks balls so far. I knew he will be horrific.Random standards regarding awards.Silly decision regarding ANGT. He brought good old "Serbian/Eastern europe" standards on the table. Expected.

What? Would you care to elaborate this if you don't mind?

 

[Serbian_Layup2]

By the way, you have ANGT live on Youtube, you just have to wait a bit until they begin to broadcast, as was the case last year too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0zRj8Ou45M

 

[Straight forward2]

What? Would you care to elaborate this if you don't mind?

OK, it's premature claim, but how about completely out of hand Rising Star award? Madar was worse in regular season and way worse in playoffs than Jokubaitis, f.e. What kinda of standard is that? I think Partizan standard.

Thanks for the link.