EL 2023/24 - Gameday 32

[iskoch2]

For the 1st time in years I will support opponent against Fener nest round
Larkin deserves to get a chance after disaster Efes's management decisions which took two seasons from him

Agree with Iskoch that he is the best player in EL history, but he needs one more title(as main player) to prove that. I hope it will be in Fener

Fener lost their chances for HCA with stupid loses long time ago
Beating Oly isn't option so win against Efes means nothing

HCA advantage doesn’t matter much if we get Monaco.

If (probably) Pao and Monaco get 2nd and 3rd places and we will be against Monaco in QF.

Round 33

Bayern - Panathinaikos
Monaco - Zalgiris

Round 34

Panathinaikos - Alba
Monaco - Bayern

If no huge surprise, i don’t see a defeat for Monaco and Pao here.

We just have to lose against Olympiacos for the 6th place then.

Monaco 0 - 3 Fenerbahce is a quite possible result. I don’t see them beating us more than one time even though they have HCA. At worst we will win 3-1 but 3-0 looks more possible to me.

 

[zubitos2]

HCA advantage doesn’t matter much if we get Monaco.

If (probably) Pao and Monaco get 2nd and 3rd places and we will be against Monaco in QF.

Round 33

Bayern - Panathinaikos
Monaco - Zalgiris

Round 34

Panathinaikos - Alba
Monaco - Bayern

If no huge surprise, i don’t see a defeat for Monaco and Pao here.

We just have to lose against Olympiacos for the 6th place then.

Monaco 0 - 3 Fenerbahce is a quite possible result. I don’t see them beating us more than one time even though they have HCA. At worst we will win 3-1 but 3-0 looks more possible to me.

I imagine that if Fener and Oly win next game.....they propably both of them want to loose the last game between them..... because both of them prefer Monaco than Barca

 

[paspalj2]

I imagine that if Fener and Oly win next game.....they propably both of them want to loose the last game between them..... because both of them prefer Monaco than Barca

I’m convinced that Mpartzokas doesn’t engage in that sort of behavior. Oly (if healthy) can win anywhere.

 

[janketa2]

Two years ago when I wrote something like it seems to me that that Itoudis intends to make new Clyburn from Heyes Davis, one big Fener fan(I think that was Vivo) replied that it's nonsence comparing and puting them two in the same sentence

Seems that famous Vivo had right, just maybe not in direction he thought

 

[janketa2]

Well, it depends on who wins in Barcelona next week... Maccabi won there quite a lot in previous years, so it is possible. Then Fener has to win at least one out of two games.

Maccabi plays against Barca day before Fener. If Barca lose then Fener must win

 

[MikeMaccabiFan2]

Maccabi plays against Barca day before Fener. If Barca lose then Fener must win

Must win and win isn't the same. I give Maccabi about 30% chance, so we probably will stay in 7th place, but I still can hope.

 

[janketa2]

Must win and win isn't the same. I give Maccabi about 30% chance, so we probably will stay in 7th place, but I still can hope.

TBH both Fener and Efes are in similar form, some kind of pick, and I can't predict which way will go.
Difference is that Fener is predictable, Efes isn't. We have system and just team on good night can beat us.
Problem is that Efes's amplitudes are maybe the biggest in EL. Larkin is constant, but if Clyburn and Thopmson deliver performance proportional to their contracts, then Efes could beat us.

 

[EverGreen2]

I rate Monaco as a better team than Barca. Obradovic has more experience than Grimau and seems as he is now at complete peace with Mike James. Barca play with a couple washups (Riki and Jabari and a couple super overated that get 15 mins in Jakobaitis and Da Silva)

 

[Edgar3]

I would rather play Barca than Maccabi! I don't trust them at all. I see Monaco as a mismatch for Fener. Fener can beat Barca easily. Oly on the other hand has more chances against Monaco than against Barca. Monaco can't beat them in the slow pace game.

 

[iskoch2]

I rate Monaco as a better team than Barca. Obradovic has more experience than Grimau and seems as he is now at complete peace with Mike James. Barca play with a couple washups (Riki and Jabari and a couple super overated that get 15 mins in Jakobaitis and Da Silva)

Fenerbahce and Olympiacos have more or less same mentality on the court, they can play defence. Barcelona too.

If Fener and Oly must play tough defence, they can play and stop Monaco offence unless they have incredible 3pt night. As Monaco can’t play same level defence, their offence can take at most one game from Fener and Oly imho.

But against Barcelona, it will be defensive battle for both teams. Because Barcelona defence will not be worse than what Fener and Oly plays. That’s why I think Monaco will be easier opponent.​

 

[janketa2]

As Fener fan I always try hard not to be biased and to be more harsh on us then on the opposite side

But this time I will say my honest opinion. On good night, when Davis, Biberovic, Dorsey and one of the centers are hot(including Willbeking taking less then 16 shoots or not play at all), it's realy hard to beat Fener

System is good and I realy don't understand what happened with Saras to let that circus in Milan. It was crutial game for us, but we lost HCA with that loss

Without HCA I just don't want Pao or Oly. Monaco or Barca are better fit for us

 

[zubitos2]

As Fener fan I always try hard not to be biased and to be more harsh on us then on the opposite side

But this time I will say my honest opinion. On good night, when Davis, Biberovic, Dorsey and one of the centers are hot(including Willbeking taking less then 16 shoots or not play at all), it's realy hard to beat Fener

System is good and I realy don't understand what happened with Saras to let that circus in Milan. It was crutial game for us, but we lost HCA with that loss

Without HCA I just don't want Pao or Oly. Monaco or Barca are better fit for us

Janketa are you Sick????
This is the first time that you wrote something good for your team.
Where is real Janketa stranger?? Bring him back.

 

[Toruko2]

Fenerbahce is rn the best basketball team in Europe but it has some weaknesses. I strongly doubt another team than Real Madrid could really expose those though. I dont really think that either Oly or PAO can truly beat FB rn.

 

[paspalj2]

Fenerbahce is rn the best basketball team in Europe but it has some weaknesses. I strongly doubt another team than Real Madrid could really expose those though. I dont really think that either Oly or PAO can truly beat FB rn.

Well, the time is nigh.

PS: Has the website been unresponsive/slow to others or is it just me?

 

[Toruko2]

Well, the time is nigh.

PS: Has the website been unresponsive/slow to others or is it just me?

Its not just you, got the same problem here

 

[Toruko2]

https://twitter.com/paobcgr/status/1773854527587778883

Atamania!

 

[EverGreen2]

https://twitter.com/paobcgr/status/1773854527587778883

Atamania!

He's done a brilliant job. 2nd from 17th. Not only that. Yesterday was the 1st time this season in the EL were all players were healthy and available. He's managed this whilst 2 players are misfiring all season in Vildoza and Juancho. All this in a pretty much 6 man rotation. Lessort and Mitoglou showed signs of exhaustion but we got home at the end winning another close one. Away wins at Monaco and Madrid were just dreams at the beginning of the season. We hadnt beaten RM away in 10 years and had 10 straight losses to Barca. We had never beaten Monaco but beat them twice this year. We were losing close games but now we have found a way to win them (Monaco, Valencia, Virtus) where it seemed we were lost. Kendrick Nunn changed the course of our season. We were 2-4 before he came and since then we are 19-7. PAO has more firepower than it's able to use so far. Is Juancho and Vildoza can show their quality at the business end of the season, we have improved chances of success.

 

[janketa2]

Maybe I am biased but for me Larkin is nowhere close to Diamantidis and Spanoulis. Diamantidis was complete package. Best defender year by year and guy with the biggest balls when it was most important. With all his EL titles I think his biggest achievement was leading best Barca team maybe in history by 2-1 with the team that had Ukic, Ramel Curry in the backcourt and Sofo with 200kgs&Tsartsaris unable to run at the end of his career as bench frontcourt...Spanoulis was killer and made magic with bang average Oly team. Also players like De Colo, Navarro, Llull are bigger for me than Larkin.

Yes, you are biased a lot. I mean Navaro, Llull, they were not even main players in titles. For instance, Doncic was the guy in wining his 2nd title, Tavares in 3rd, Chacho in 1st

If I would biased as you the best player in EL was Bogdan, but he left too early and didn't win enough titles to be considered as the best.

Larkin needs one more title to make step ahead of Parker, who won 2 in a row as main player. Larkin has the most Mvp of the round awards so far and he is still active

I am talking about numbers and you about perception

 

[janketa2]

I disagree. I do believe that Oly is a better overall team than Fener but Fener has improved significantly over this year and a showdown in the last game of the year would be very interesting. This is of course assuming that none of the teams choose to end up lower to face a team of their liking.

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Disagree with what?? You say Oly is better overall then Fener and that's exactly what I said too. So you disagree with me because you think better team won't win the most important game in homecourt is that your point?

 

[paspalj2]

Disagree with what?? You say Oly is better overall then Fener and that's exactly what I said too. So you disagree with me because you think better team won't win the most important game in homecourt is that your point?

No, sorry, maybe I should have expressed myself better. I’ll try again:

I disagree that winning is not an option for Fener. I believe they can win *despite* the fact that Oly is a better team (generally) imo. I don’t think they are that much better to justify a certainty in losing. Fener has inproved a lot throughout the season and I think they will be a super tough playoffs opponent for anyone.