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East Asia Super League

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CoJ said:
lol but we beat them with a lot of black and white dudes in the Gilas roster. PBA board is so full of itself
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But if you point that out,SBP,fans,PBA will say otherwise,they're just Filipinos with different shades of colors.
 
paolylo said:
All that money on chicks and drinks care of the PBA Board to fool the EASL bosses into believing this country can draw crowds of people when having a Champions League-type format and here we are a few years later, the Bay Area Dragons have disbanded... the PBA ever uncooperative while the other leagues send their actual champions (remember, what the EASL wanted was the All-Filipino Cup Champion and Finalist).

The EASL ought to look at replacing the PBA with the Indonesian League since it's clear that PBA teams just wanna get this over with and are resigned to the fact that they're not that good against clubs with 2 imports plus naturalized players on their roster with this entitled "we'll beat you anyway if you take out all those black/white dudes" attitude.
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CoJ said:
lol but we beat them with a lot of black and white dudes in the Gilas roster. PBA board is so full of itself
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ARMIR said:
But if you point that out,SBP,fans,PBA will say otherwise,they're just Filipinos with different shades of colors.
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To be fair, I'll be one of those saying that they're Filipino.

The black and white argument in club basketball, though, is one of the stupidest arguments one can make. Literally every top league has foreign players to fill holes in their roster.
 
IPC said:
To be fair, I'll be one of those saying that they're Filipino.

The black and white argument in club basketball, though, is one of the stupidest arguments one can make. Literally every top league has foreign players to fill holes in their roster.
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Fans get sensitive when others point it out,but a Filipino fan will always be the first to point out wether its a club basketball or NTs.
 
ARMIR said:
Fans get sensitive when others point it out,but a Filipino fan will always be the first to point out wether its a club basketball or NTs.
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Same argument though with the PBA's height restriction believing that local bigs will never develop if you got a pair of 6'9+ dudes on the same team... first of all, anyone Asian over 6'6 is already a rarity, the problem is local skills development more than it is the lack of opportunity. Yuta Watanabe can play center in the B-League on his height alone and yet he's an NBA wing. No one told him he was going to play center all his life. Different players have different styles of playing and yet these PBA coaches buy into this idea that they have no use for local players taller than 6'6 if there are two imports who can guard the 4 and 5 as a 3. Kawamata and Inoue in the B-League are sub-20 minute players averaging 6 and 3 but are good enough to have roles on a Japan team that didn't even have Hachimura in the World Cup. In the first place, no one expects them to develop as stars as long as they're able to guard players and execute plays.

I even remember Asi Taulava coming back from a suspension weighing 215 and for a conference was playing stretch five (until maybe Joel Banal needed bulky Asi more and went back to 240-250). That was probably Asi's MVP year.
 
hmbopbaduwap said:
https://www.easl.basketball/news/ce...tacular-as-easl-final-four-ticket-sales-begin

Friday, March 8

5 p.m. - Semifinal 1 - Seoul SK Knights (5-1, KBL) vs. Anyang Jung Kwan Jang Red Boosters (5-1, KBL)

8 p.m. - Semifinal 2 -Chiba Jets (6-0, B. LEAGUE) vs. New Taipei Kings (4-2, P. LEAGUE+)

Tickets available here: https://www.ticketmax.ph/events/eas...ed-boosters-8pm-chiba-jets-vs-newtaipeikings/

‍Sunday, March 10

4 p.m. - Third Place Game

7 p.m. - Championship Game


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Too expensive... baka langawin tong event na to, especially that no PBA teams on the board... Who will watch the event w/o a Filipino team on there?
 
paolylo said:
Same argument though with the PBA's height restriction believing that local bigs will never develop if you got a pair of 6'9+ dudes on the same team... first of all, anyone Asian over 6'6 is already a rarity, the problem is local skills development more than it is the lack of opportunity. Yuta Watanabe can play center in the B-League on his height alone and yet he's an NBA wing. No one told him he was going to play center all his life. Different players have different styles of playing and yet these PBA coaches buy into this idea that they have no use for local players taller than 6'6 if there are two imports who can guard the 4 and 5 as a 3. Kawamata and Inoue in the B-League are sub-20 minute players averaging 6 and 3 but are good enough to have roles on a Japan team that didn't even have Hachimura in the World Cup. In the first place, no one expects them to develop as stars as long as they're able to guard players and execute plays.

I even remember Asi Taulava coming back from a suspension weighing 215 and for a conference was playing stretch five (until maybe Joel Banal needed bulky Asi more and went back to 240-250). That was probably Asi's MVP year.
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The PBA have a short memory,back in the days when the weak teams have two import versus the top 4, teams can only field 1 import at a time,the local big had to adjust from playing 5 to 4 or 3 and adjust they did,as you said center during All Filipino but during those invitational years,when they have 2 imporst at a time,the good local bigs make good adustments.
 
paolylo said:
Same argument though with the PBA's height restriction believing that local bigs will never develop if you got a pair of 6'9+ dudes on the same team... first of all, anyone Asian over 6'6 is already a rarity, the problem is local skills development more than it is the lack of opportunity. Yuta Watanabe can play center in the B-League on his height alone and yet he's an NBA wing. No one told him he was going to play center all his life. Different players have different styles of playing and yet these PBA coaches buy into this idea that they have no use for local players taller than 6'6 if there are two imports who can guard the 4 and 5 as a 3. Kawamata and Inoue in the B-League are sub-20 minute players averaging 6 and 3 but are good enough to have roles on a Japan team that didn't even have Hachimura in the World Cup. In the first place, no one expects them to develop as stars as long as they're able to guard players and execute plays.

I even remember Asi Taulava coming back from a suspension weighing 215 and for a conference was playing stretch five (until maybe Joel Banal needed bulky Asi more and went back to 240-250). That was probably Asi's MVP year.
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Yeah, I remember this from 20+ years back. That version of Asi was something else. I swear, i remember him moving like how a 6'2" homegrown wing back then did with the level of fitness he had that conference. He must have been ordered by Coach Bayno to lose the unnecessary bulk.
 
Giannis34GOD said:
Too expensive... baka langawin tong event na to, especially that no PBA teams on the board... Who will watch the event w/o a Filipino team on there?
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Bored and rich Bisdaks yung mga ka-uri nila Slater Young at Kryz Uy... but I'm guessing these types of people have more productive things to do than watch Jeremy Lin play with lounge access. Lower box to gen ad is quite cheap so expect it to look like a PBA out of town game because if Ultra was barely half-full of Jeremy Lin fans and it's a much smaller venue, it'll have the feel of a NBA Summer League crowd. It's the right venue for the number of Cebuanos actually interested in this.
 
Rodbi said:
Yeah, I remember this from 20+ years back. That version of Asi was something else. I swear, i remember him moving like how a 6'2" homegrown wing back then did with the level of fitness he had that conference. He must have been ordered by Coach Bayno to lose the unnecessary bulk.
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Thin Asi had the green light from deep and was easily the best player in '03 because he even had the speed advantage against smaller bigs like Menk. It was just really weird to see him revert back to a traditional PBA center after playing that way.
 
paolylo said:
Thin Asi had the green light from deep and was easily the best player in '03 because he even had the speed advantage against smaller bigs like Menk. It was just really weird to see him revert back to a traditional PBA center after playing that way.
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That version was very comparable to today's CStand on how agile he moved, though CStand has the better handles and has more offensive repertoire. Too bad, traditional basketball and positions was the thing for most of the league, then (except for SMB which had a tall, offensively versatile, game-changing local SF) so it prevailed in the end.
 
Rodbi said:
That version was very comparable to today's CStand on how agile he moved, though CStand has the better handles and has more offensive repertoire. Too bad, traditional basketball and positions was the thing for most of the league, then (except for SMB which had a tall, offensively versatile, game-changing local SF) so it prevailed in the end.
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Positional basketball is still a thing in FIBA basketball (especially the 5), although the 3 and 4 spots can be versatile like in the NBA. However, the only way that we can play positional basketball is if we have big imports who can be a focal point inside and/or protect the rim. Problem is, we have that for only part of the year.

Buti na lang, we're getting taller wings like Gabe, Will Navarro, Calvin Oftana, and Jamie Malonzo. Hope that sticks. Next should be tweeners like Carl Tamayo and Justine Baltazar, hopefully we develop better versions.
 
IPC said:
Positional basketball is still a thing in FIBA basketball (especially the 5), although the 3 and 4 spots can be versatile like in the NBA. However, the only way that we can play positional basketball is if we have big imports who can be a focal point inside and/or protect the rim. Problem is, we have that for only part of the year.

Buti na lang, we're getting taller wings like Gabe, Will Navarro, Calvin Oftana, and Jamie Malonzo. Hope that sticks. Next should be tweeners like Carl Tamayo and Justine Baltazar, hopefully we develop better versions.
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It's great that we are now having an abundance of versatile, FIBA-ready/potential wings in the 6'4-6'6" height range in both pros and amateurs, compared to a decade ago. However, it's seems the opposite for our taller frontcourt positions. Outside of the current younger bigs we have in Kai, CT, Mason, M. Philips, Ange, Demisana, Gagate, Pablo, and Balti (i'll include Geo Chiu 'cause he's a Gilas veteran and 6'9" is still 6'9") are there someone else in the pipeline?
 
Rodbi said:
It's great that we are now having an abundance of versatile, FIBA-ready/potential wings in the 6'4-6'6" height range in both pros and amateurs, compared to a decade ago. However, it's seems the opposite for our taller frontcourt positions. Outside of the current younger bigs we have in Kai, CT, Mason, M. Philips, Ange, Demisana, Gagate, Pablo, and Balti (i'll include Geo Chiu 'cause he's a Gilas veteran and 6'9" is still 6'9") are there someone else in the pipeline?
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Anyone can go on wikipedia and sort every PBA rosters by height, but if you added 2 prototype EASL imports (definitely not the Hollis-Jeffersons) and maybe a naturalized player... how many of those players will not be limited to back-up bigs as opposed to finding new roles or maybe even starting ahead of them? Among all Filipinos, it's just Kai and it's only been those last 3 games in Japan. For those na pang-PBA lang, it's just JunMar. There's a lot of truth to what the PBA insists but that doesn't help their case if they actually want to compete against B. League 1, KBL, and P. League+ clubs. Wala pa nga yung CBA.
 
Rodbi said:
Yeah, I remember this from 20+ years back. That version of Asi was something else. I swear, i remember him moving like how a 6'2" homegrown wing back then did with the level of fitness he had that conference. He must have been ordered by Coach Bayno to lose the unnecessary bulk.
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That version of Asi (Thin w/ dreadlocks) were coming off a deportation case, he lost weight to play as a Forward in the US..TNT were doing their work behind the scenes to get him back for humanitarian reasons (get back to his wife and kids).
He regain his 250-260 weight after a couple of months.
 
Giannis34GOD said:
Too expensive... baka langawin tong event na to, especially that no PBA teams on the board... Who will watch the event w/o a Filipino team on there?
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The person who planned this type of access must be a fan of NFL,the only thing missing is the owner's box,where the high paying guys actually can watch in a suite with as much as 12 people and walk to their padded heated seats,with access to ipads. https://youtu.be/nT-DpxVmqC0?si=cPsR4nSIeFlg1vpy
 
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