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zairex2
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They still have Hodge, Rios, Pascual and Jose for 4 spot. So you cant just slide centers there.
Look at Ryuku, how many time does you think one of their import wont play their major minutes if not injured?
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They still have Hodge, Rios, Pascual and Jose for 4 spot. So you cant just slide centers there.
Look at Ryuku, how many time does you think one of their import wont play their major minutes if not injured?
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TheRodster212
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Thats the reason of PBA of having 3 conferences.
If we implement 2 imports, look at Japan not having any good big men. Even in guard lineup its thin with Immamura and their PG being players with qualities.
FOR meralco, Ibeh will play like 30 mins living 18 mins for Almazan, Bates and Torres in Center position. We might end up like Ryuku no quality bigs.
There’s plenty of other countries that don’t have good big men despite not implementing a 2 import system?
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zairex2
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There’s plenty of other countries that don’t have good big men despite not implementing a 2 import system?
what countries don't have two or more imports?
We need good to great Big Man? As this is our weakness
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Rds2
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lofton 35 pts 6 rebounds 3 assists
newsome 27 pts 8 rebounds
ibeh 15 pts 12 rebounds 3 blocks
Newsome showing his Asian games finals performance was not a fluke. This is a small sample size but with how Newsome is performing against international comp maybe the PBA style is doing his game a disservice. He arguably is the best eligible guard we have. Not a good outside shooter but has decent handles. Can score on drives and midrange. He can defend wings at the Asia level. I hate to admit it but he probably would have been useful in the Fiba worlds.
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TheRodster212
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what countries don't have two or more imports?
We need good to great Big Man? As this is our weakness
I guess if we categorize it as 1 import on the floor at a time and good big man as big man that would get minutes ahead of import on national team or club team
PBA, KBL, TBL, VBA, IBL
Despite Kai and Aj, Kouame is still one of the better options as import, Gilas is also still looking for a big man import rather than a forward\guard scorer which is another hole that needs to be filled
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zairex2
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I guess if we categorize it as 1 import on the floor at a time and good big man as big man that would get minutes ahead of import on national team or club team
PBA, KBL, TBL, VBA, IBL
Despite Kai and Aj, Kouame is still one of the better options as import, Gilas is also still looking for a big man import rather than a forward\guard scorer which is another hole that needs to be filled
KBL not producing good center? I can tell you that KBL centers better than B.League, Oh, Choi to name a few.
The rest of the leagues are just up and coming.
Also include China if that is your categorization. They do produce better center than Japan.
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TheRodster212
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KBL not producing good center? I can tell you that KBL centers better than B.League, Oh, Choi to name a few.
The rest of the leagues are just up and coming.
Also include China if that is your categorization. They do produce better center than Japan.
Yes China does, and their big men regularly are scouted by the NBA thats why I don't include them, but none of the centers you mentioned are world class or would replace an import if they had a chance, if the KBL truly produced good imports then their national team would not have problems in the center position and not consistently naturalize big men. Yes Japan does not have world class big men. My point is the two import system isn't the problem IMO with developing world class big men. Heck countries with more imports in Europe and America produce better big men. What is missing to produce world class big men, probably size, athleticism, skill etc. but I don't thnik the two import system is what holds these countries back.
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zairex2
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Yes China does, and their big men regularly are scouted by the NBA thats why I don't include them, but none of the centers you mentioned are world class or would replace an import if they had a chance, if the KBL truly produced good imports then their national team would not have problems in the center position and not consistently naturalize big men. Yes Japan does not have world class big men. My point is the two import system isn't the problem IMO with developing world class big men. Heck countries with more imports in Europe and America produce better big men. What is missing to produce world class big men, probably size, athleticism, skill etc. but I don't thnik the two import system is what holds these countries back.
Lets not include Euro or other countries not belonging to Asia and concentrate with region.
KBL do produce Asian level thats why they can compete with NZ and other countries. Japan dont even have an Asian Level center.
I am just saying looking at B.league, having no opportunities for Centers will not bold well for them in the long run.
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paolylo2
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Sana there was a pipeline for them African FSA's to play in the PBA as locals the way corporations hire foreigners on local terms (tapos may kaltas sila sa PAGIBIG at Phil Health haha).
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ja.he2
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Finally, a PBA team got a win.
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Joe Yabuki2
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Sana there was a pipeline for them African FSA's to play in the PBA as locals the way corporations hire foreigners on local terms (tapos may kaltas sila sa PAGIBIG at Phil Health haha).
this, just copy the homegrown system of football wherein if someone had developed their basketball skills here before becoming 21, theyre eligible as locals. PBA says theyre bleeding talent, why not just open the doors to more folks.
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ja.he2
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KBL not producing good center? I can tell you that KBL centers better than B.League, Oh, Choi to name a few.
The rest of the leagues are just up and coming.
Also include China if that is your categorization. They do produce better center than Japan.
Do you mean Choi Junyong? He plays point forward. If you look at all of his stints, both in KBL and in Korea NT, he was slotted from 1 and 3 positions and that's the reason why their 3-2 zone is effective - it was because of him being the tall guard.
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IPC2
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KBL not producing good center? I can tell you that KBL centers better than B.League, Oh, Choi to name a few.
The rest of the leagues are just up and coming.
Also include China if that is your categorization. They do produce better center than Japan.
Do you mean Choi Junyong? He plays point forward. If you look at all of his stints, both in KBL and in Korea NT, he was slotted from 1 and 3 positions and that's the reason why their 3-2 zone is effective - it was because of him being the tall guard.
Oh Se-keun, Ha Yungi, Kim Jong-kyu, Lee Won-seok, that's pretty much it for their starting-caliber centers. But yeah, that's kinda still more than Japan.
We don't really count Choi, because he's more of a guard than a big.
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IPC2
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Finally, a PBA team got a win.
I believed that MERALCO would be better-equipped than TNT to win in the EASL. I thought MERALCO proved me wrong when they got blown out by Ryukyu in Okinawa. At almost full strength, they kept it close against New Taipei, and then beat Ryukyu, albeit after Vic Law got tired. Credit to them, a. Let's see them compete against SK in the 27th.
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Rodbi2
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I believed that MERALCO would be better-equipped than TNT to win in the EASL. I thought MERALCO proved me wrong when they got blown out by Ryukyu in Okinawa. At almost full strength, they kept it close against New Taipei, and then beat Ryukyu, albeit after Vic Law got tired. Credit to them, a. Let's see them compete against SK in the 27th.
They gotta win all their remaining preliminary round games first, though last night's was really impressive and with a bit of luck na rin. That's the breakthrough EASL win in the current format that PBA sorely needs. I hope Meralco somehow carries the winning momentum moving forward.
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Rodbi2
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this, just copy the homegrown system of football wherein if someone had developed their basketball skills here before becoming 21, theyre eligible as locals. PBA says theyre bleeding talent, why not just open the doors to more folks.
I like this idea, too. However, a lot needs to be ironed out first between PBA and those organizers within the juniors or the U-19 level. It would be more impactful if such practice with FSAs begins during the low teen years of foreign prospects.
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KoolAid2
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I like this idea, too. However, a lot needs to be ironed out first between PBA and those organizers within the juniors or the U-19 level. It would be more impactful if such practice with FSAs begins during the low teen years of foreign prospects.
FSA's playing in the PBA is a no for me, if the PBA is bleeding for talent why not just get the usual imports (US) who are like 10x better than FSAs? Also, Most FSAs and their fellow countrymen (Nigerians, Senegalese,etc.) have offers abroad (NBA, Europe) due to their size and athleticism something that most Filipino players lack, Filipinos on the other hand are always stuck in the PBA or recently just in Asia since it's the only league where they could play or get recruited. Filipinos need to "eat" too, you know!?
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Rodbi2
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FSA's playing in the PBA is a no for me, if the PBA is bleeding for talent why not just get the usual imports (US) who are like 10x better than FSAs? Also, Most FSAs and their fellow countrymen (Nigerians, Senegalese,etc.) have offers abroad (NBA, Europe) due to their size and athleticism something that most Filipino players lack, Filipinos on the other hand are always stuck in the PBA or recently just in Asia since it's the only league where they could play or get recruited. Filipinos need to "eat" too, you know!?
Those usual imports will be too expensive, bro. Ex-FSAs meanwhile, are the cost-effective solution. We are not referring to those outlier/NBA-level African players, just those guys in the same vein as Ange and Diouf (both spent years developing in the PH system, which is the key factor in this suggestion) would be enough of an upgrade on certain positions, provided that PBA would not impose height limits on the ex-FSA slots of course.
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magic_chiongson2
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Those usual imports will be too expensive, bro. Ex-FSAs meanwhile, are the cost-effective solution. We are not referring to those outlier/NBA-level African players, just those guys in the same vein as Ange and Diouf (both spent years developing in the PH system, which is the key factor in this suggestion) would be enough of an upgrade on certain positions, provided that PBA would not impose height limits on the ex-FSA slots of course.
not to mention higher chance of getting a fiba exemption for naturalized players like ange if they locally for years
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KoolAid2
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Those usual imports will be too expensive, bro. Ex-FSAs meanwhile, are the cost-effective solution. We are not referring to those outlier/NBA-level African players, just those guys in the same vein as Ange and Diouf (both spent years developing in the PH system, which is the key factor in this suggestion) would be enough of an upgrade on certain positions, provided that PBA would not impose height limits on the ex-FSA slots of course.
Nah, this doesn't include those outlier NBA-level players tho, a lot of them still has offers to play in the lower-tier leagues in Europe, Filipinos just don't have those offers unlike them.