East Asia Super League

[Rodbi2]

Until now the pandemic still effecting East Asian countries i think!!! maybe teams in Taiwan and Korea were not allowed to conduct home and away setting... Because for sure Philippines and Japan can capable now to conduct home and away games, same as Hong Kong (Bay Area's base) since in 6th window, China's final 2 home games will be held in Hong Kong.... So it's Korea and Taiwan the only countries are still strict about protocols...

Actually, I'm all set with the short-tournament format upon reading the news of pull-out from the home-away format of other East Asian countries due to COVID. It's just that the 2-game elimination round is a little.. off, don't you think, considering that it's 2 groups of four teams? Anyway, their tournament, their format.

 

[IPC2]

I have a question now. How will PBA teams qualify for the EASL next season? EASL starts in October, and the next PBA season will start September to October.

 

[CoJ2]

if only BGSM didnt screw up last all filipino cup they would have been playing in the EASL, that BAD-BGSM rematch would be fire

@IPC, probably the champion and runner up of the governors cup would be the EASL rep for next season?

 

[Joe Yabuki2]

Yeah BGSM seem like our best int team right now, SMB is in the middle of a rebuild and the less the said about the other the better

 

[paolylo2]

I have a question now. How will PBA teams qualify for the EASL next season? EASL starts in October, and the next PBA season will start September to October.

The EASL isn’t the same without the CBA and the Taiwan situation is really messed up. At this rate, they should include the ABL Champion. The PBA will just send hotter chicks the next time EASL execs visits Manila so that they can talk them into the two-makeshift teams as the league tries to do another special format season complete with special draft to deal with the World Cup. Chances are, they’ll say: Fck it, one SMC team, one MPIC team.

It’s cute how Bay Area changes the make-up of their team alternating Nicholson and Powell just to comply with the PBA’s stupidity. How about just making the Governor’s and Commissioner’s Cups a literal Cup tournament simultaneously during the same season and tally the win-loss records for whoever should go to EASL? Some days 6’10 imports, others 6’6, All-Filipino on Sundays. That way, it ensures a full season of games that makes it easier to adjust for a major tournament between mid June to late September as well as FIBA windows and EASL games.

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

The EASL isn?t the same without the CBA and the Taiwan situation is really messed up. At this rate, they should include the ABL Champion. The PBA will just send hotter chicks the next time EASL execs visits Manila so that they can talk them into the two-makeshift teams as the league tries to do another special format season complete with special draft to deal with the World Cup. Chances are, they?ll say: Fck it, one SMC team, one MPIC team.

It?s cute how Bay Area changes the make-up of their team alternating Nicholson and Powell just to comply with the PBA?s stupidity. How about just making the Governor?s and Commissioner?s Cups a literal Cup tournament simultaneously during the same season and tally the win-loss records for whoever should go to EASL? Some days 6?10 imports, others 6?6, All-Filipino on Sundays. That way, it ensures a full season of games that makes it easier to adjust for a major tournament between mid June to late September as well as FIBA windows and EASL games.

Not just only ABL champs... But also the champs of IBL (Indonesia), VBA (Vietnam), TBSL (Thailand), MNBA (Mongolia) and MBA (Malaysia).. Basketball is a global sport and they have also professional leagues... Ok, they are not so strong than establish leagues but with having 2 imports plus separate Asian import/Naturalized player to add on, they can manage to put a good fight against big teams... It will lessen the gap and possibly an upset... Those countries that i mentioned already have strong fan base in their local scene and will add to the viewership of EASL and revenue in case the home and away set up will return back to normal....

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

Actually, I'm all set with the short-tournament format upon reading the news of pull-out from the home-away format of other East Asian countries due to COVID. It's just that the 2-game elimination round is a little.. off, don't you think, considering that it's 2 groups of four teams? Anyway, their tournament, their format.

Much better having home and away set up... Because this is EASL want to achieve.. Their mission and vision is that the league will be as same as Euroleague... And possibly another league that NBA can scout for players in the future... With that plan, Asian players will have opportunity to showcase their talents to be scouted atleast in Summer League or G-League....

 

[Silent Killer2]

From Twitter

AussieHoopla
Illawarra Hawks ownership group have made a significant investment in the East Asian Super League which is poised to become the Euroleague of Asia (and Brain Goorjian currently coaches). Part of the deal will include creating an EASL basketball Academy in Australia.

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

From Twitter

AussieHoopla
Illawarra Hawks ownership group have made a significant investment in the East Asian Super League which is poised to become the Euroleague of Asia (and Brain Goorjian currently coaches). Part of the deal will include creating an EASL basketball Academy in Australia.

So it means NBL teams will participate in future EASL seasons? If this happens then it will be good for basketball community in Asia/Pacific... This will be not Euroleague of Asia... It will be basketball version of AFC Champions cup of FIFA.... Maybe a possible merge between WASL and EASL in the future... This will spark more fan base in Asian basketball circuit... Unlike national teams, club teams level gap are lesser since every ballclubs will have minimum of 2 imports each to make their team competitive.... Competition is better in Club tourneys unlike national teams that level gap is huge between top teams and mid to lower tier teams....

 

[Rodbi2]

So it means NBL teams will participate in future EASL seasons? If this happens then it will be good for basketball community in Asia/Pacific... This will be not Euroleague of Asia... It will be basketball version of AFC Champions cup of FIFA.... Maybe a possible merge between WASL and EASL in the future... This will spark more fan base in Asian basketball circuit... Unlike national teams, club teams level gap are lesser since every ballclubs will have minimum of 2 imports each to make their team competitive.... Competition is better in Club tourneys unlike national teams that level gap is huge between top teams and mid to lower tier teams....

I can only imagine for now that such league would be composed of 16 teams in the future, 8 each from top ranked pro leagues in the West and in the East. This would be the basketball equivalent of the AFC Champions' League (Div. 1) and below would be the allotment per domestic/regional league:

West
IRI - 2
JOR - 2
LIB - 2
GCC - 1
Central Asia - 1

East
PHL - 1
JPN - 1
KOR - 1
Aus-NZ NBL - 2
CHN/EASL club - 1
TPE - 1
ABL - 1

Those countries/regions not mentioned like IND/South Asia, INA, THA, VIE, Guam/South Pacific, etc. would be categorized in the Div. 2 or the AFC Cup equivalent in basketball and would have their own tournament concurrent with the Div. 1.

This might be a pipe dream for now but I'm optimistic that such format would be possible in the next 10 years.

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

I can only imagine for now that such league would be composed of 16 teams in the future, 8 each from top ranked pro leagues in the West and in the East. This would be the basketball equivalent of the AFC Champions' League (Div. 1) and below would be the allotment per domestic/regional league:

West
IRI - 2
JOR - 2
LIB - 2
GCC - 1
Central Asia - 1

East
PHL - 1
JPN - 1
KOR - 1
Aus-NZ NBL - 2
CHN/EASL club - 1
TPE - 1
ABL - 1

Those countries/regions not mentioned like IND/South Asia, INA, THA, VIE, Guam/South Pacific, etc. would be categorized in the Div. 2 or the AFC Cup equivalent in basketball and would have their own tournament concurrent with the Div. 1.

This might be a pipe dream for now but I'm optimistic that such format would be possible in the next 10 years.

Pro clubs tourneys are different than national team tournaments, Almost all of professional ballclubs can hire minimum of 2 imports or more... HK Eastern Lions can match up toe to toe vs established ballclubs team in Asia.. Example if Singapore Slingers hires 2 legit NBAers (ex: Kemba Walker and Demarcus Cousins), plus hiring an Asian import that is also very good.... Do you consider them in Div.2 squad? How about 24 teams in that tourney? Add 1 ballclub from CHN (since they are considered best professional league in Asia) into 2 teams then separate EASL club, Actually Macau, Bay Area and HK Lions (plus Mongolian PRO league) can compete who will be best representative from Greater China region... While another 1 from TPE... This is realistic with 24 teams will compete:

West Asia:

IRI - 2
JOR - 2
LIB - 2
GCC - 2
West Asia (PLE, SYR, IRQ) - 2
IND - 1
Central Asia - 1

East Asia:

PHI - 1
JPN - 1
KOR - 1
CHN - 2
Greater China/East Asia - 1
TPE - 1
ABL - 1
NBL - 2
NZ NBL - 1
SEABA - 1

This is realistic... In PRO league tourneys, no need for Div.2 tournaments since Ball club tournaments are more competitive than national team level...

 

[PaulLee32]

"Rooting for Carl Tamayo and his team" " Let's go Carl Tamayo, and Ryukyu Golden Kings" He and Kai Sotto are the future of Philippine Basketball"

 

[leoisiah2]

I have a question now. How will PBA teams qualify for the EASL next season? EASL starts in October, and the next PBA season will start September to October.

It looks like the same teams are qualified. The EASL in October is the same as the one that keeps on getting postponed. The upcoming Champion's week in March is just a pre-season to the October tournament.

This Champion's week is weird for having a group stage with 4 teams but each team only faces 2 other teams. Is an additional game day too much to ask?

 

[Silent Killer2]

It looks like the same teams are qualified. The EASL in October is the same as the one that keeps on getting postponed. The upcoming Champion's week in March is just a pre-season to the October tournament.

This Champion's week is weird for having a group stage with 4 teams but each team only faces 2 other teams. Is an additional game day too much to ask?

afaik the champions week in march is for this season 22-23.. different champions for 23-24 season.. yeah good question about who will we send to 23-24 season..

 

[paolylo2]

afaik the champions week in march is for this season 22-23.. different champions for 23-24 season.. yeah good question about who will we send to 23-24 season..

If all else fails, they'll just probably have to send Ginebra or whoever wins the last trophy (and the second placer) before the next EASL season. Looking past 2023/24, the PBA has to get their shit together. I would hate the EASL to be the reason why the PBA can't lend anymore players for Gilas and we end up with an all-B.League/KBL team with a few reinforcements in the college ranks in games that actually matter like the FIBA Asia Cup/Qualifiers, World Cup Qualifiers, and OQT's.

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

If all else fails, they'll just probably have to send Ginebra or whoever wins the last trophy (and the second placer) before the next EASL season. Looking past 2023/24, the PBA has to get their shit together. I would hate the EASL to be the reason why the PBA can't lend anymore players for Gilas and we end up with an all-B.League/KBL team with a few reinforcements in the college ranks in games that actually matter like the FIBA Asia Cup/Qualifiers, World Cup Qualifiers, and OQT's.

Why blame EASL? Your league doesn't have solution to cooperate with EASL? They do the right thing to introduce Asian basketball just like Euroleague in Europe... One of the reasons why Asian basketball can't level up is because they can't manage to cooperate each other... All other continents have Champions league (BAL in African region, Euroleague, Euro Cup in Europe and BCL for Americans)... Only Asia has none... You still want Asian basketball to be separate themselves and left behind?

 

[paolylo2]

Why blame EASL? Your league doesn't have solution to cooperate with EASL? They do the right thing to introduce Asian basketball just like Euroleague in Europe... One of the reasons why Asian basketball can't level up is because they can't manage to cooperate each other... All other continents have Champions league (BAL in African region, Euroleague, Euro Cup in Europe and BCL for Americans)... Only Asia has none... You still want Asian basketball to be separate themselves and left behind?

Is that you robert with birthday and ATM pin? You clearly misunderstood my post like how this robert guy with a Saudi flag can post a little in English but is really stupid when replying to others because his comprehension skills are that of a 7-year old.

In the vernacular:

"I would hate the EASL to be the reason" - Sana huwag maging dahilan ang EASL
"why the PBA can't lend anymore players for Gilas" - kung bakit ayaw mag-pahiram ang PBA ng player sa Gilas

But you don't understand Tagalog anyway, so bahala ka na diyan. (it means "God loves you" in my language)


I'm not blaming the EASL. PBA players and even coaches/staff are supposed to be skilled professionals playing/coaching/working from contract to contract and just play when and where their team tells them to play.

I'm only presenting the possible post-World Cup situation of 2 PBA teams playing in a proper EASL season as proposed (home-and-away group stage and knockout brackets every Wednesday during an on-going PBA/KBL/B.League season, not this makeshift Championship week) along with an unchanged PBA schedule (3 conferences, conflicting schedules with FIBA/FIBA Asia windows), there will be players from those 2 qualified teams in the EASL that might not be considered for a Gilas Pool invite because you can scratch off Wednesdays (even Tuesday travel out and Thursday flight back to Manila for away games) for the EASL, making it harder for them to be even considered for a Gilas call-up.

I trust the EASL, it's the PBA Board and the SBP that I don't trust because it's always been a huge deal to get anyone from the PBA to play for Gilas in this cycle alone knowing that they only had the SEA Games to show for and messed it up, not just with that one loss... but all those DNP's to players they called up but never used, now two teams have a bit more games to play. The flipside is what I'm wishfully hoping for when there are no disruptions to the PBA schedule (assuming they align it with the FIBA calendar and actually give the Wednesdays for the EASL) and have players who can choose which competition to prioritize if they are in the Gilas pool, their team is at least in the semis every conference, and they make it far in the EASL. The worst thing that could happen is the PBA realizing that they're too stubborn to adapt and just treat the EASL like how they treated ABL exhibitions before.

 

[Silent Killer2]

If all else fails, they'll just probably have to send Ginebra or whoever wins the last trophy (and the second placer) before the next EASL season. Looking past 2023/24, the PBA has to get their shit together. I would hate the EASL to be the reason why the PBA can't lend anymore players for Gilas and we end up with an all-B.League/KBL team with a few reinforcements in the college ranks in games that actually matter like the FIBA Asia Cup/Qualifiers, World Cup Qualifiers, and OQT's.

since AFC will start around the 23-24 EASL season, what PBA should do is whoever the champ and the runner up of the governors cup will represent us..

 

[Supremo302]

afaik the champions week in march is for this season 22-23.. different champions for 23-24 season.. yeah good question about who will we send to 23-24 season..

If the PBA starts in September or October, they probably send the Commisioner's Cup Champion and Gov's Cup Champion, and if BGSM able to win this coming Gov's Cup, the other finalist will be the other representative for the EASL 2023-24 season

 

[Supremo302]

Is that you robert with birthday and ATM pin? You clearly misunderstood my post like how this robert guy with a Saudi flag can post a little in English but is really stupid when replying to others because his comprehension skills are that of a 7-year old.

In the vernacular:

"I would hate the EASL to be the reason" - Sana huwag maging dahilan ang EASL
"why the PBA can't lend anymore players for Gilas" - kung bakit ayaw mag-pahiram ang PBA ng player sa Gilas

But you don't understand Tagalog anyway, so bahala ka na diyan. (it means "God loves you" in my language)


I'm not blaming the EASL. PBA players and even coaches/staff are supposed to be skilled professionals playing/coaching/working from contract to contract and just play when and where their team tells them to play.

I'm only presenting the possible post-World Cup situation of 2 PBA teams playing in a proper EASL season as proposed (home-and-away group stage and knockout brackets every Wednesday during an on-going PBA/KBL/B.League season, not this makeshift Championship week) along with an unchanged PBA schedule (3 conferences, conflicting schedules with FIBA/FIBA Asia windows), there will be players from those 2 qualified teams in the EASL that might not be considered for a Gilas Pool invite because you can scratch off Wednesdays (even Tuesday travel out and Thursday flight back to Manila for away games) for the EASL, making it harder for them to be even considered for a Gilas call-up.

I trust the EASL, it's the PBA Board and the SBP that I don't trust because it's always been a huge deal to get anyone from the PBA to play for Gilas in this cycle alone knowing that they only had the SEA Games to show for and messed it up, not just with that one loss... but all those DNP's to players they called up but never used, now two teams have a bit more games to play. The flipside is what I'm wishfully hoping for when there are no disruptions to the PBA schedule (assuming they align it with the FIBA calendar and actually give the Wednesdays for the EASL) and have players who can choose which competition to prioritize if they are in the Gilas pool, their team is at least in the semis every conference, and they make it far in the EASL. The worst thing that could happen is the PBA realizing that they're too stubborn to adapt and just treat the EASL like how they treated ABL exhibitions before.

The 2023-2024 EASL season is in line with the FIBA Calendar. So, it will not be a problem for the PBA if they want to lend. And EASL is now sanctioned by FIBA for a 10-year partnership.