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IPC2
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Because they don't want to risk the PBA's reputation playing against what they and the public perceives as lesser competition.
I think the PBA's best teams with FIBA-ineligibles (imports included) can beat the Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Japan clubs. It's the Korean clubs which may pose difficulties.
If only the PBA were willing to adjust their rules and their format, maybe the reputation won't have to be an issue.
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thatweirdguy2
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I think the PBA's best teams with FIBA-ineligibles (imports included) can beat the Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Japan clubs. It's the Korean clubs which may pose difficulties.
If only the PBA were willing to adjust their rules and their format, maybe the reputation won't have to be an issue.
You never know. Especially if they take them lightly. But it would suck if the PBA send farm teams or incomplete teams.
I don't think the PBA like changes..
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reamily2
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He's been liking BBM posts on Twitter, so ayun.
Joyride, pogis app ride company is one fixtures of bbms caravan..
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zairex2
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I think the PBA's best teams with FIBA-ineligibles (imports included) can beat the Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Japan clubs. It's the Korean clubs which may pose difficulties.
If only the PBA were willing to adjust their rules and their format, maybe the reputation won't have to be an issue.
I agree. For me its because Korea also play with one import at a time thou having two import in the roster. This mean team needs to rely more on local than import.
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Silent Killer2
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You never know. Especially if they take them lightly. But it would suck if the PBA send farm teams or incomplete teams.
I don't think the PBA like changes..
PBA needs an overhaul.. big time changes..
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IPC2
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I agree. For me its because Korea also play with one import at a time thou having two import in the roster. This mean team needs to rely more on local than import.
I actually meant that top Korean clubs will give some top PBA teams a harder time, because they look to create 3-point looks, which will break the defense of PBA teams like San Miguel and Ginebra, which focus on protecting the paint. I mean, two of the top 4 teams in the KBL have a really high 3PT attempt rate, with two pushing past .400 (Anyang KGC and Korea Gas Corporation), although to be fair, only two of those top 4 teams (Suwon KT Sonicboom and Anyang KGC) are shooting above 34% from three. The PBA teams will have to adjust, although teams like MERALCO, TNT, and Magnolia seem well-equipped and well-drilled to counter shooters.
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ja.he2
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I actually meant that top Korean clubs will give some top PBA teams a harder time, because they look to create 3-point looks, which will break the defense of PBA teams like San Miguel and Ginebra, which focus on protecting the paint. I mean, two of the top 4 teams in the KBL have a really high 3PT attempt rate, with two pushing past .400 (Anyang KGC and Korea Gas Corporation), although to be fair, only two of those top 4 teams (Suwon KT Sonicboom and Anyang KGC) are shooting above 34% from three. The PBA teams will have to adjust, although teams like MERALCO, TNT, and Magnolia seem well-equipped and well-drilled to counter shooters.
We better send two from MERALCO, TNT and Magnolia to avoid humiliation. SMB and Ginebra are terrible defending the perimeter.
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IPC2
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We better send two from MERALCO, TNT and Magnolia to avoid humiliation. SMB and Ginebra are terrible defending the perimeter.
Chinese Taipei, and even some of the B.League's top teams look for the three, and if I remember correctly, convert at a pretty good rate. So the PBA teams that we send there have to absolutely be good at rotating to the perimeter. This is going to force change in the way defense is played.
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IPC2
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You never know. Especially if they take them lightly. But it would suck if the PBA send farm teams or incomplete teams.
I don't think the PBA like changes..
We better send two from MERALCO, TNT and Magnolia to avoid humiliation. SMB and Ginebra are terrible defending the perimeter.
So this is how the PBA teams might get embarrassed. That's if the team can't rotate to defend the Korean, Japanese, and Taiwanese shooters. That's quite frankly a perfect counter to usual PBA defenses, which focus more on inside the arc.
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zairex2
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So this is how the PBA teams might get embarrassed. That's if the team can't rotate to defend the Korean, Japanese, and Taiwanese shooters. That's quite frankly a perfect counter to usual PBA defenses, which focus more on inside the arc.
Judging on previous games in EASL, thats not the case. I think no PBA team has lost to a B. League team and Taiwan pro team. Only Korea has consistent on beating us.
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IPC2
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Judging on previous games in EASL, thats not the case. I think no PBA team has lost to a B. League team and Taiwan pro team. Only Korea has consistent on beating us.
Actually, Chiba beat Blackwater in the Terrific 12. Other than that, yeah, they couldn't beat SMB and TNT.
As for Taiwan, PBA teams haven't faced them.
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IPC2
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We better send two from MERALCO, TNT and Magnolia to avoid humiliation. SMB and Ginebra are terrible defending the perimeter.
To be fair to both SMB and Ginebra, both can compensate for their defensive shortcomings through their sheer firepower. They can match other Asian teams basket for basket.
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zairex2
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Actually, Chiba beat Blackwater in the Terrific 12. Other than that, yeah, they couldn't beat SMB and TNT.
As for Taiwan, PBA teams haven't faced them.
Your are right about Chiba vs Blackwater. I believe Taiwan pro club Fformosa lose bigtime to Nlex local crew.
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IPC2
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We better send two from MERALCO, TNT and Magnolia to avoid humiliation. SMB and Ginebra are terrible defending the perimeter.
Ayun. Case in point: Ginebra defended the perimeter really poorly against Magnolia. They can't contain penetration and PnR's as well.
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EASL plans to expand and add other leagues to the EASL come 2025: http://tbti.me/s20dvt
CEO Beyer also looks to be one of the top 3 leagues in the world by that time.
The PBA is also mentioned. He said “[h]opefully, the PBA will feel that this partnership is good and that they would want to send more teams in the future."
The article also said that the PBA agreed to send two of the top 4 teams, the top 4 of the Philippine Cup.
I really hope the PBA can cooperate and adjust its calendar. This can be the other conference where the PBA gets revenue.
CEO Beyer also looks to be one of the top 3 leagues in the world by that time.
The PBA is also mentioned. He said “[h]opefully, the PBA will feel that this partnership is good and that they would want to send more teams in the future."
The article also said that the PBA agreed to send two of the top 4 teams, the top 4 of the Philippine Cup.
I really hope the PBA can cooperate and adjust its calendar. This can be the other conference where the PBA gets revenue.
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https://www.facebook.com/1757959694461767/posts/3141309996126723/
PBA makes room to include EASL in 2022 calendar
By Rey Joble
It’s green and go for PBA’s participation in the East Asia Super League.
PBA commissioner Willie Marcial confirmed it on Tuesday during his guesting in the weekly PSA Forum.
"Nag-usap kami ni Mr. Matt Beyer (EASL CEO). Nagbigay na sila ng schedule. Home and away. October 12, away, then October 19, home. Ang alam ko ang kalaban natin either Japan or Korea. Tapos may November ulit,” said Marcial.
According to Marcial, he had already instructed deputy commissioner Eric Castro to work on the schedule and block off the participation of the teams which will represent the PBA in the fastest growing regional basketball league in Asia.
"Sinabi ko na rin sa board yan and OK naman kami. Kinausap ko na rin si deputy commissioner Eric Castro na i-adjust yung schedule. Kung tatama doon at kung sinong mga teams ang pupunta, ia-adjust natin yung schedule para doon sa mga teams na pupunta. Hindi na muna natin palalaruin ng isang Linggo. Yun yung mga pinag-usapan namin. It's green and go and EASL. Excited na rin kami na maglaro sa East Asia,” added Marcial.
Beyer and his fellow executive Henry Kirins, shared the benefits of partnering with the PBA and making Asia’s pioneering professional basketball league a big part in the EASL’s expansion.
"I think the economics is one part. Then, the level of competition is another part. We have a minimum revenue guaranteed to the PBA and that's on an annual basis, which is what we're going to give to any league,” said Beyer.
Outside of the revenue the PBA is set to receive just like the other leagues invited to field in their teams, the EASL is also offering a mouthwatering prize money to the winners.
“Then, we're also offering the first place team of those eight teams, the champion of the East Asia Super League, S1-million for the champion. The second place is $500,000 and third place is $250,000. For each game, there's going to be six games, three home and three away in the group stage, there's an appearance fee guaranteed to all teams. Road and travels are paid for,” added Beyer.
In handling the home and away competitions, the EASL is taking off the pressure from the PBA in terms of handling the TV production and coverage once the event takes place in the Philippines.
“We're also handling the broadcast production and even told the PBA we're going to handle the operations in the Philippines if it's not too much of a burden for the PBA to host the home games. We're taking all the risks completely off the table from any of the partners that we're working with. What we want to do and this is why like having a strong partnership with the leagues and the qualification system that we have is fair and transparent is so important to make sure that we build a wide base of fans in the countries. That's why it's an open system based on qualifications,” added Beyer.
Kirins, the chief finance officer of the EASL, sees the partnership with the PBA as a win-win situation as well as the other leagues involved.
"From my perspective with the other basketball leagues, it's the same thing how the PBA looks at this. It's a win-win for all the teams and all the leagues involved. Whether you look at the economics or you look at the exposure for the sponsors or you look at the Gilas national team, having a deeper international experience, meeting all types of players. I think that's something that is being taken into consideration. From my view, there's no downside here,” said Kirins.
PBA makes room to include EASL in 2022 calendar
By Rey Joble
It’s green and go for PBA’s participation in the East Asia Super League.
PBA commissioner Willie Marcial confirmed it on Tuesday during his guesting in the weekly PSA Forum.
"Nag-usap kami ni Mr. Matt Beyer (EASL CEO). Nagbigay na sila ng schedule. Home and away. October 12, away, then October 19, home. Ang alam ko ang kalaban natin either Japan or Korea. Tapos may November ulit,” said Marcial.
According to Marcial, he had already instructed deputy commissioner Eric Castro to work on the schedule and block off the participation of the teams which will represent the PBA in the fastest growing regional basketball league in Asia.
"Sinabi ko na rin sa board yan and OK naman kami. Kinausap ko na rin si deputy commissioner Eric Castro na i-adjust yung schedule. Kung tatama doon at kung sinong mga teams ang pupunta, ia-adjust natin yung schedule para doon sa mga teams na pupunta. Hindi na muna natin palalaruin ng isang Linggo. Yun yung mga pinag-usapan namin. It's green and go and EASL. Excited na rin kami na maglaro sa East Asia,” added Marcial.
Beyer and his fellow executive Henry Kirins, shared the benefits of partnering with the PBA and making Asia’s pioneering professional basketball league a big part in the EASL’s expansion.
"I think the economics is one part. Then, the level of competition is another part. We have a minimum revenue guaranteed to the PBA and that's on an annual basis, which is what we're going to give to any league,” said Beyer.
Outside of the revenue the PBA is set to receive just like the other leagues invited to field in their teams, the EASL is also offering a mouthwatering prize money to the winners.
“Then, we're also offering the first place team of those eight teams, the champion of the East Asia Super League, S1-million for the champion. The second place is $500,000 and third place is $250,000. For each game, there's going to be six games, three home and three away in the group stage, there's an appearance fee guaranteed to all teams. Road and travels are paid for,” added Beyer.
In handling the home and away competitions, the EASL is taking off the pressure from the PBA in terms of handling the TV production and coverage once the event takes place in the Philippines.
“We're also handling the broadcast production and even told the PBA we're going to handle the operations in the Philippines if it's not too much of a burden for the PBA to host the home games. We're taking all the risks completely off the table from any of the partners that we're working with. What we want to do and this is why like having a strong partnership with the leagues and the qualification system that we have is fair and transparent is so important to make sure that we build a wide base of fans in the countries. That's why it's an open system based on qualifications,” added Beyer.
Kirins, the chief finance officer of the EASL, sees the partnership with the PBA as a win-win situation as well as the other leagues involved.
"From my perspective with the other basketball leagues, it's the same thing how the PBA looks at this. It's a win-win for all the teams and all the leagues involved. Whether you look at the economics or you look at the exposure for the sponsors or you look at the Gilas national team, having a deeper international experience, meeting all types of players. I think that's something that is being taken into consideration. From my view, there's no downside here,” said Kirins.
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We better send two from MERALCO, TNT and Magnolia to avoid humiliation. SMB and Ginebra are terrible defending the perimeter.
Ayun. Case in point: Ginebra defended the perimeter really poorly against Magnolia. They can't contain penetration and PnR's as well.
Another Ginebra defensive masterclass against TNT tonight. Gave up a lot of free looks and open shots to TNT, who shot 56% from the field and 53% from 3. At one point, TNT shot 61% from the field, 61% from 3.
If Ginebra can't defend the perimeter against Mags and TNT, how could they expect to defend the perimeter in the EASL?
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zairex2
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It shows CTC's coaching is too old school.. while everyone in the world adopting modern basketball system, CTC still stuck to his old school Triangle system that is not effective nowadays... I love CTC and he's the greatest coach in PBA history but his coaching style will not work these days..
One loss and this is the mindset. It work in the bubble. They just don't have a penetrator like pringle. Watch Yezkiel YT, its not purely Triangle anymore.
People here wants a tall line up which Ginebra did and when get burned or lost to 4 out offense and pinoy ball we get angry. Don't get it
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IPC2
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One loss and this is the mindset. It work in the bubble. They just don't have a penetrator like pringle. Watch Yezkiel YT, its not purely Triangle anymore.
People here wants a tall line up which Ginebra did and when get burned or lost to 4 out offense and pinoy ball we get angry. Don't get it
Ginebra was kinda fine offensively, actually. 45% from the field.
What's concerning is the defense. It's not just one game, it's been a theme this year. Even with their 3-guard lineups, they get burned. Late rotations, wide open opposing shooters. What's more is that Cone is willing to give up perimeter jumpers. Collapse the paint and whatnot. Plus, the personnel. Only Scottie's a good perimeter defender in the roster.
Honestly, for the record, I'm not against playing small. Brownlee and Arvin as the 3 and 4 is a FIBA-sized small-ball lineup, actually. Might improve the switchability of the team.