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East Asia Super League

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PBA might opt for sending Gilas instead: https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/...pinas-to-maiden-easl-tournament-a793-20211202

So much for joining. If you're gonna join, your teams must be the one/s representing the pro league here.

Other than the top four teams, Vargas hinted at the possibility of forming a team from players of the four ballclubs, or even sending the Gilas Pilipinas squad of coach Tab Baldwin.

I'm actually interested in the formation of a SMC or MVP super team which was one of the ideas floated around, ayaw ba ng PBA teams ng $1M?
 
Other than the top four teams, Vargas hinted at the possibility of forming a team from players of the four ballclubs, or even sending the Gilas Pilipinas squad of coach Tab Baldwin.

I'm actually interested in the formation of a SMC or MVP super team which was one of the ideas floated around, ayaw ba ng PBA teams ng $1M?

It is CLUB tournament between leagues' top teams. Why send a combined team there? EASL wants to be the Euroleague counterpart, why not send a genuine ballclub?
 
It is CLUB tournament between leagues' top teams. Why send a combined team there? EASL wants to be the Euroleague counterpart, why not send a genuine ballclub?

the PBA board is giving me a headache, its either they are not fully committed to the EASL or they want to use the Greater China team as a precedent and create a super team just to get ahead of the competition.
 
the PBA board is giving me a headache, its either they are not fully committed to the EASL or they want to use the Greater China team as a precedent and create a super team just to get ahead of the competition.

No, they cannot used that. Greater China Team is a special team that is specifically created by EASL.
 
The fact that PBA wants to send Gilas shows their unwillingness to fully participate in EASL. On the other hand, the plans of the league sending a combined team of PBA players mean to two things: (1) they want to take home the prize; and/or (2) they are trying to avoid PBA being gauged to other leagues.

Is PBa making gilas an escape goat not to participate? Does the pba understand the concept of a champions league? huh? Is pba teams contented to be the champions just in pba , not looking at the bigger picture and that is to be the best professional league and have the best professional teams in Asia.Blame the archaic three conference system of pba. It is embarassing and insult to EASL officials who wants to see top professional teams for each regions, to be a champions league. I take it back, maybe pba is not yet ready to globalize, and it is still over protective and insulares mentality.
 
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Is PBa making gilas an escape goat not to participate? Does the pba understand the concept of a champions league? huh? Is pba teams contented to be the champions just in pba , not looking at the bigger picture and that is to be the best professional league and have the best professional teams in Asia.Blame the archaic three conference system of pba. It is embarassing and insult to EASL officials who wants to see top professional teams for each regions, to be a champions league. I take it back, maybe pba is not yet ready to globalize, and it is still over protective and insulares mentality.

They join the tournament, but are considering not sending clubs there. I mean, if they lose, come on, the big teams can ramp up the harvesting.

I don't get what the teams are so afraid of. They can have up to three imports (two world and one Asian), and it's not like they'll be at some massive disadvantage. Not to underestimate the other teams, but it seems that only SoKor has the teams that can give teams like TNT and the SMC teams a challenge. Is it because of the adjustments or something?
 
They join the tournament, but are considering not sending clubs there. I mean, if they lose, come on, the big teams can ramp up the harvesting.

I don't get what the teams are so afraid of. They can have up to three imports (two world and one Asian), and it's not like they'll be at some massive disadvantage. Not to underestimate the other teams, but it seems that only SoKor has the teams that can give teams like TNT and the SMC teams a challenge. Is it because of the adjustments or something?

PBA’s pride and ego will hurt..

They’re afraid..
 
PBA teams have been participating in EASL since 2018. Never won it so losing is not a issue for them. I think like AQ or WCQ it just distrub their calendar.

Then they should not enter into an agreement in the first place.
 
PBA might opt for sending Gilas instead: https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/...pinas-to-maiden-easl-tournament-a793-20211202

So much for joining. If you're gonna join, your teams must be the one/s representing the pro league here.

So here, Ricky Vargas says that the PBA won't be a token participant: https://sports.inquirer.net/443364/out-to-win-pba-wont-be-token-easl-participant

Sana lang. The money's a big motivation. I mean, who'd want to leave that on the table?

I hope they send CLUBS. May imports naman to bolster any weaknesses. And as Vargas said, they have the talent and the coaching know-how, maybe that's enough to compete.
 
PBA might opt for sending Gilas instead: https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/...pinas-to-maiden-easl-tournament-a793-20211202

So much for joining. If you're gonna join, your teams must be the one/s representing the pro league here.

Wow... very disappointing. Just when I'm starting to be excited for PBA again, here they are, deliberately looking past the bigger picture, which is to gain supremacy in the East Asian region.

And for the qualification to the 2 slots, drawing of lots? Seriously? Why can't they just come up with a more credible means of identifying their representatives? They can do a televised, mini-tournament for this.
 
Wow... very disappointing. Just when I'm starting to be excited for PBA again, here they are, deliberately looking past the bigger picture, which is to gain supremacy in the East Asian region.

And for the qualification to the 2 slots, drawing of lots? Seriously? Why can't they just come up with a more credible means of identifying their representatives? They can do a televised, mini-tournament for this.

I don't see what's making this decision difficult for Vargas and Marcial. That's the EASL's decision to make, not the PBA's. EASL participation is supposed to be a reward for actually winning. Why not just go by the placings at the All-Filipino? TnT, Magnolia, SMB/Meralco in that order. They haven't started yet and they're already making a mockery of the EASL. Let Gilas worry about their own preparation, I'd rather see them do pocket tournaments in the Middle East, China, and even scrimmages in Europe and the US than be yoked for 6 months playing just 6-8 games.
 
I don't see what's making this decision difficult for Vargas and Marcial. That's the EASL's decision to make, not the PBA's. EASL participation is supposed to be a reward for actually winning. Why not just go by the placings at the All-Filipino? TnT, Magnolia, SMB/Meralco in that order. They haven't started yet and they're already making a mockery of the EASL. Let Gilas worry about their own preparation, I'd rather see them do pocket tournaments in the Middle East, China, and even scrimmages in Europe and the US than be yoked for 6 months playing just 6-8 games.

For real.. while we are free to speculate why PBA is having second thoughts on sending their league winners (above posts seems reasonable), it's still very hard to accept that at this day and age, PBA still won't take opportunities like this seriously. For me, I would understand if they'll reason out financial difficulties as their main concern for this seemingly half-baked commitment, it would be forgivable, nothing much we can do about that.

As for Gilas, I agree. PBA should not disturb them with this EASL participation. PBA shouldn't even be thinking of sending an NT to a pro club champions' tournament in the first place.
 
They join the tournament, but are considering not sending clubs there. I mean, if they lose, come on, the big teams can ramp up the harvesting.

I don't get what the teams are so afraid of. They can have up to three imports (two world and one Asian), and it's not like they'll be at some massive disadvantage. Not to underestimate the other teams, but it seems that only SoKor has the teams that can give teams like TNT and the SMC teams a challenge. Is it because of the adjustments or something?

It quite laughable what PBA said about Gilas option or selection of pba players will join tournament. This officials is not updated on the world of basketball and does not know the concept of champions league of "Best Clubs" in Asia. Why? SMC and pba team are afraid to lose? It's not about best selection and best national team.

Blame it on the archaic three conference system and smc teams always stuck to there laurels of winning pba championship and contented with pba cup. And if its import problem since it you can use 2 or three imports , we have allot of former FSA who are very good that can reinforce a team along with there main imports. They even put Gilas as escape goat, will just add burden to Gilas instead of focusing on Fiba tournaments and training abroad.

EASL officials are just being nice, but deep inside they dont like the idea of PBA to have an option for Gilas to play or just selection of pba players from top 4. It is embarassing and insult to EASL officials who wants to see top professional teams for each regions, to be a champions league.
 
It quite laughable what PBA said about Gilas option or selection of pba players will join tournament. This officials is not updated on the world of basketball and does not know the concept of champions league of "Best Clubs" in Asia. Why? SMC and pba team are afraid to lose? It's not about best selection and best national team.

Blame it on the archaic three conference system and smc teams always stuck to there laurels of winning pba championship and contented with pba cup. And if its import problem since it you can use 2 or three imports , we have allot of former FSA who are very good that can reinforce a team along with there main imports. They even put Gilas as escape goat, will just add burden to Gilas instead of focusing on Fiba tournaments and training abroad.

EASL officials are just being nice, but deep inside they dont like the idea of PBA to have an option for Gilas to play or just selection of pba players from top 4. It is embarassing and insult to EASL officials who wants to see top professional teams for each regions, to be a champions league.

At this point, EASL officials should really just be blunt to PBA heads and tell them that their suggestions will not be accepted. The tournament's strictly for pro league champions/runner-ups only. Whatever the effect of that statement (lalong maging insular ang PBA, at worst), we'll just have to accept it.
 
https://www.facebook.com/1757959694461767/posts/3105713363019720/

Yeng Guiao suggests PBA needs to make room for EASL participation

By Rey Joble

Getting a first-hand experience of high-level competition, NLEX Road Warriors general manager and head coach Yeng Guiao is suggesting to the PBA to make room for the teams’ participation

Guiao added that he had suggested to PBA commissioner Willie Marcial to create a gap in between conferences to accommodate the teams’ participation in the EASL.

“I've suggested to the Commissioner, that we identify tournaments like the EASL to try and fit them in our schedule. That's really an important factor. If we do the PBA schedule and there's really no gaps between conferences to participate, that's probably the most difficult obstacle to overcome in participating,” said Guiao.

Unlike before when teams across in the Asian region get invitation to compete, the new partnership between the PBA and the East Asia Basketball League will allow the country’s premier basketball league to select the top teams representing the Philippines in this club championship following EASL’s creation of its pan-regional event.

This new event is a home-and-away club tournament featuring top teams from the PBA, Japan B. League, Korean Basketball League (KBL), and Chinese Taipei P. LEAGUE+ along with a seeded, top Greater China team in Hong Kong SAR.

It means representatives from each leagues will be composed of the best of the best ball clubs from all over Asia.

"Of course, there are 12 teams in the PBA and I feel, the best teams should go and participate. The best teams usually make the semifinals and the finals. Therefore, the PBA needs to provide that gap to the schedule where the best teams can go there. They can be appreciated and we can give the fans, especially the Filipino fans who want to see us give them a really good game,” added Guiao.

Matt Beyer, co-founder and chief executive officer of EASL, knows it’s going to be a lot more challenging working on the schedule of the PBA, owing to its unique three-conference set up, but they’re trying to work on every possible way to make their participation a reality.

“It really depends on the leagues in the countries. The PBA's structure in the three conferences means the fans are getting maximum numbers of games in a year. Much more than any other leagues in the country and that's a blessing being a PBA fan,” said Beyer.

"At the same time, scheduling is a challenge as well. What we've said in our conversations with the PBA, we would like the best possible teams, but we would also want participants who would like to use it as a platform and go against the best in the region. We would also have to consider all those logistics. I think over the past several years, I had been to the Philippines many times. We thought on getting to know the PBA and everything. We're flexible on this issue. We don't want to be pushy on which team will join or whatever.”


Just recently, the PBA and the EASL formalized their partnership in allowing Asia’s pionerring professional basketball league to take part in the pan-regional tournament beginning next year.

The EASL is bringing in the top eight teams from Asia to dispute the $1-million prize money get a chance to play against the best of the best club teams in the region playing under a home-and-away format (six games each), for a total of 24 games during the group stage set from October 2022 to February 2023, with two EASL group stage games taking place every Wednesday night.

The top two teams in the standings from each group advance to the Final Four and play in sudden death semifinals and championship matches in March 2023.

“We're looking to establish a regional championship where the best teams from around the Asian region, specifically greater China, Japan, Korea and the Philippines can play together in a setting that is integrated to their regular season, their own domestic leagues. Since 2017, since putting together our first tournament, the Super 8, then during three events after that, the last event being September 2019, the Terrific 12, we like to grow this fan base concept,” said Beyer.
 
At this point, EASL officials should really just be blunt to PBA heads and tell them that their suggestions will not be accepted. The tournament's strictly for pro league champions/runner-ups only. Whatever the effect of that statement (lalong maging insular ang PBA, at worst), we'll just have to accept it.

Baka ma-fine sila ng PBA niyan :D
 
It quite laughable what PBA said about Gilas option or selection of pba players will join tournament. This officials is not updated on the world of basketball and does not know the concept of champions league of "Best Clubs" in Asia. Why? SMC and pba team are afraid to lose? It's not about best selection and best national team.

Blame it on the archaic three conference system and smc teams always stuck to there laurels of winning pba championship and contented with pba cup. And if its import problem since it you can use 2 or three imports , we have allot of former FSA who are very good that can reinforce a team along with there main imports. They even put Gilas as escape goat, will just add burden to Gilas instead of focusing on Fiba tournaments and training abroad.

EASL officials are just being nice, but deep inside they dont like the idea of PBA to have an option for Gilas to play or just selection of pba players from top 4. It is embarassing and insult to EASL officials who wants to see top professional teams for each regions, to be a champions league.

The bayan ng superstars and oldest league in Asia should not be afraid to play against anyone.
 
The bayan ng superstars and oldest league in Asia should not be afraid to play against anyone.

pride and ego.. yep PBA send teams before and they treat it as practice tournament. the FIBA asia club championships we send meralco bolts who is not a champion and it should send a SMC team who won the conference prior to asiad club championships.

they're just scared that a full force and motivated champ team of PBA might be beaten by other asiad club..
 
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