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Draw for the FIBA World Cup [Manila, Philippines, Apr 29]

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Damn, Justus Hollatz seems to develop in Spain. It forces me to start respecting the German team.
 
Ridirkulous said:
Dude you have to cut this crap a bit. I think Frank Lubin won gold with the US team before representing Lithuania. Two of the three titles you have in your resume have been achieved with a full line-up of players born and raised in Chicago, Illinois. Frank Lubin fled your country back to his native California when WWII broke out and continued playing basketball there. So did the others.
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Yeah but Jogaila played for Poland so it evens out
 
Ridirkulous said:
Tadas Sedekerskis always seemed a bust to me, but I had high expectations from Arnoldas Kulboka after seeing him develop in Bamberg, what happened to that guy?
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Spent season in G League/NBA, played (horribly) in friendly NT game in summer, twice player of the week in Eurocup this season
 
Ridirkulous said:
Even if he did not play, he has been registered at FIBA level with Germany (proof: https://www.fiba.basketball/en/player/275263/Simonas-Lukosius). He is locked, sorry :P
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Does registration is as legit and decisive as actual participation?

I call Lokosius Lithuanian Doncic. He's really big and heavy guard who can do it all on the court, including fancy, nearly magical passes. Even if he will choose Germany he is more Lithuanian culturally as he spent his time playing in Vilnius bball school, was born in Kaunas, got Lithuanian names, spent most of his time in Lithuania, traveled with his Lithuanian dad, a coach. I think Germany will get a good piece if that's the destiny (luckily for Lithuania position 2 is stacked with prospects - Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius, D. Giedraitis, Lelevicius, Indrusaitis):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50gUSAXVsNw&ab_channel=CollegeBasketballSc outing
 
LuDux said:
Spent season in G League/NBA, played (horribly) in friendly NT game in summer, twice player of the week in Eurocup this season
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2 games for a total of 5 minutes. Yikes. Just checked his stats in Greece. Seems to still have a chance to be a serviceable player.

LuDux said:
Yeah but Jogaila played for Poland so it evens out
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Who? Am I missing a joke here?
 
Straight forward said:
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I think Sabonis is a bit patriot of NT. He's like Luka, Dirk and such. Giannis and Jokic don't have such dedication to NT. So I don't see this changing unless some serious injuries. Actually he currently playing with broken finger, but even with that he's planning to represent Lithuania. I kinda expect him being completely loyal. Besides, we have "baby Sabonis" in Tubelis as some call him. In few years Tubelis will be legitimate piece at 5.



This.
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All of those players are loyal... It just some of NBA team owners are too greed not to allow their players to represent their countries due to business reasons (And team owners are afraid that their players will be injured in non NBA event)... Giannis only skip was 2021 OQT, w/c is understandable since he was coming from a championship run at the Bucks... But other tournaments, Giannis was always present from 2014, 2019 FIBA WC to Eurobasket events... But anyway Sabonis deserves to have that multi million contract at Sacramento... He led this team to their 1st playoff appearance since 2006....
 
Ridirkulous said:
Hehe, I am hyped like never before indeed about our NT, not even the Dirk days had me this hyped.

Straight forward speaking of Dirk, Lukosius wears number 41 :P
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Well, Germany today in basketball scene is much stronger than 2000's era w/ Dirk... With having multiple talents in their program plus some of German NBA players are real contributors and not fringe.. They have a real chance to get a medal in upcoming summer event.... Only the draw will determine who will get the easiest path to the medal rounds and who will get unlucky due to "Group of death" scenario....
 
Giannis34GOD said:
Well, Germany today in basketball scene is much stronger than 2000's era w/ Dirk... With having multiple talents in their program plus some of German NBA players are real contributors and not fringe.. They have a real chance to get a medal in upcoming summer event.... Only the draw will determine who will get the easiest path to the medal rounds and who will get unlucky due to "Group of death" scenario....
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Especially when Austin Reaves should join us.
 
Straight forward said:
That's not what's in article. The decision is very much not made yet.
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But i'm sure he will priority first the USA team... It's understandable that he will likely win a medal in USA team than Italy... Although the later will give him more recognition especially if he lead Italy to win a medal in any international competition...
 
I hear unofficial news that there probably will be changes for the FIBA World Cup draw. Groups now will be made from Pots 1-3-5-7 and 2-4-6-8. (It used to be 1-4-5-8 and 2-3-6-7). Main reason is the large amount of European teams in Pots 2, 3 and 6.

Seems a little strange as this now puts too many Asian teams (6) in 1-3-5-7 and two will need to move pots. Perhaps becuase they are in the lower pots (7 and 8) it is less impactful.

The previous fix was to move LAT and DOM between Pots 5 and 6 and COT/LEB between 7 and 8.

This new method seems to balance out the pools somewhat - in particular making Pool A not so horrible.
 
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Here is how it would look going with Pots 1-3-5-7 and 2-4-6-8


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Again - please point out any mistakes I'm making here.

Note: I switched Jordan and Japan down to Pot 8 and Egypt and South Sudan up to Pot 7 to make this work. Not sure if FIBA will do that to host Japan, but I see no other way.

Also Note: I have ESP and BRA in brackets, because BRA will need to follow to where ESP is drawn. There are other situations like this but with multiple variables and too complex to map out. This one seems obvious pre-draw and I thought it worth noting.
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mojo13 said:
I hear unofficial news that there probably will be changes for the FIBA World Cup draw. Groups now will be made from Pots 1-3-5-7 and 2-4-6-8. (It used to be 1-4-5-8 and 2-3-6-7). Main reason is the large amount of European teams in Pots 2, 3 and 6.

Seems a little strange as this now puts too many Asian teams (6) in 1-3-5-7 and two will need to move pots. Perhaps becuase they are in the lower pots (7 and 8) it is less impactful.

The previous fix was to move LAT and DOM between Pots 5 and 6 and COT/LEB between 7 and 8.

This new method seems to balance out the pools somewhat - in particular making Pool A not so horrible.
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Or maybe 1,3,6 & 8 then 2,4,5 & 7 are much balance... no need to transfer Jordan and Japan to another POT... The scenario would be this:

POT 1 POT 3 POT 6 POT 8

PHL GRE CHN LIB
USA ITA LAT EGY
ESP GER MEX SSD
AUS BRA GEO CPV


POT 2 POT 4 POT 5 POT 7

FRA CAN IRI JOR
SRB VEN FIN JPN
SLO MON DOM ANG
LTU PUR NZL CIV


Well balanced between brackets from Asia/Pacific, Europe, Americas and even in Africa and no more transfer of teams to another POT to avoid some clarification just like what happened in 2019 when Canada and Iran change POTS...
 
Giannis34GOD said:
Is this true? Greece will take naturalized player too?


https://www.eurohoops.net/en/fibawc/1490964/thomas-walkup-greece-2023-fiba-world-cup-olympiacos/
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What do you mean "too"?
Tyler Dorsey has been their naturalized player for years. This is either becuase they expect Dorsey will no longer play or they are hedging just in case he says no again like last summer and they have a fallback option. I thought their next naturalized player was going to be Naz Long, but he hasnt had a great season with Milan.

I'm curious to learn how far back Walkup's Greek hertiage goes, if there is any at all. Not that it matters, just curious.



As a Canadian fan, I'd like to say we are missing out on this naturalization party. I'm pushing our fanbase to call for Pascal Siakum to get his Canadain citizenship. But in all honesty Canada benefits from a few players who are really Americans but have a Canadian parent and are not considered naturalized, becuase they were smart enough to get their paperwork in before age 16. But still, we have a naturalization spot waiting to be filled....

...perhaps it is filled by Aden Holloway a Top 10 2023 highschool propespect that we found out has a Canadian parent only a couple weeks ago. I don't think he got his citizenship documents before age 16 (not sure yet), so he could be our naturalized player of the future (if he is good enough). He represented Canada at the Nike Hoops Summitt and he says he wants to play on the U19 team this summer at the World Cup....we shall see...
 
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